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Lucinda (Nobles) Jolliff (abt. 1799)

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Lucinda Jolliff formerly Nobles
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Biography

Lucinda was born about 1799 probably in South Carolina.
She was the daughter of Erasmus Noble and Rebecca Charity Casey (daug of Randolph Casey).
It's difficult to find anything on Erasmus. There is an Erasmus Noble near Roanoke, VA in 1764 and 1767 (where the Caseys had lived--but they may have moved to SC in 1760). There is also an Erasmus Noble who witnessed a mortgage in 1762 in Berkeley Co, SC for Abraham Pennington (Rebecca's mother was a Pennington.) Perhaps he was nearly as old as Randolph. So, he may have been much older than Rebecca.
He may have had 2 boys by another woman (Jacob Pennington had a daughter named Mary Noble) before he married Rebecca. He and Rebecca may have had a baby before Lucinda who died young.[1]

Rebecca's parents left South Carolina and moved to Georgia in 1790, I suppose leaving Rebecca in SC (which is strange). Rebecca married Erasmus Noble about 1796.
Erasmus made his will Dec 17, 1798 and died in 1799. His will is file #1569 in Spartanburg, SC. The will mentions his wife, but no children, which is why we think he died before Lucinda was born. (but what about the 2 boys?)
And that's the extent of records on Erasmus Noble!

Erasmus must have died in 1799, probably before Lucinda was born. Surely Rebecca moved with her parents to Smith Co, Tennessee in 1800, with her little daughter, Lucinda.
In 1801 in TN Rebecca married 2nd to William Depriest and had 2 sons (and maybe a daughter, Charity) with him.

Around 1817 they moved again to Indiana (probably Orange County).
There Lucinda met Elijah Summers Jolliff[2] and married him in 1818.
Elijah's brother Richard lived in Orange Co, IN, and his brother Abner lived in Dubois Co, IN. Elijah came from KY to IN to live near his brothers, but he did not buy land there.

Elijah and Lucinda's first child, Randolph Casey Jolliff (named for Lucinda's grandfather Randolph Casey) was born in Dec, 1818 in Kentucky (as he stated in a newspaper article). Elijah & Lucinda must have gone back to Kentucky after they were married for a visit with Jolliff family and stayed for a while. Elijah's last sibling, born about 1818, was named Lucinda, probably for Elijah's new wife (this makes it likely that Elijah & Lucinda had come to visit and maybe even were there when the baby sister was born (so Randolph was the same age as his aunt!)

In 1819 Elijah, Lucinda, baby Randolph, and the DePriest family moved to Jefferson Co, Ill. where some Casey relatives had lived for 2 years. (Most of his Jolliff siblings followed later.)

He was in Illinois in 1820, living in Caseys Prairie twp, Jefferson Co, IL
1820 census: [3]
Elijah Jolliff 1 - - 1 - - - - 1 - - - 1
which means:
1 male 0-10 (Randolph C)
1 male 16-26 (Elijah)
1 female 16-26 (Lucinda)
1 engaged in farming

Besides being a farmer, Elijah operated a sugar mill.
The Jolliffs were members of the Grand Point Baptist Church in Washington Co., Ill.

When Elijah's sister, Rachel Rhea, moved to Sangamon Co. in 1827, her oldest son, James Rhea Jr. (aged 23) stayed behind. On Christmas morning 1828, while Elijah & James were examining a gun, which had been a Christmas gift, James accidentally shot Elijah in the leg. "A tow wad severed the femoral artery and Elijah died[4] in the house where he lived near Mt. Vernon, when he was about 29-31 years old."

In 1830 Lucinda & her 5 children were living between the homes of her two brothers, Green & Isaac DePriest.

On April 4, 1834, Lucinda married Asa Foster in Washington Co. They moved to Richview, IL and within 3 months guardians were appointed for her 4 sons:
her brother, Green DePriest was given custody of 15-year-old Randolph & 7-year-old James, and
Elijah's brother, Abner Jolliff, was given 11-year-old William & 8-year-old Elijah Jr.

Lucinda died before the end of the year (1834) in Richview, Washington Co, iL. She was about 34 years old. (Asa soon married Mary Lively, Feb, 1835). Where 14-year-old daughter Elizabeth stayed for the few months following her mother's death is uncertain, but on Aug. 30, 1835 she, then 15, married 31-year-old widower, James Willard, who had lived 2 houses from hers and had 4 small children, 1-8 years old.

In May, 1840, 21-year-old Randolph sold the 16 acres he had inherited from his father's estate to his mother's cousin, Green P. Casey, for $100.
In 1847 James Rasmus also sold his inherited part (16 acres) of his father's land to Green P. Casey.
In 1852 Elijah Jr. also sold his 16 acres to Green P. Casey.
All of the children, except Elijah Jr., eventually moved to southern Missouri with uncles, Green & Isaac DePriest.

Children of Elijah and Lucinda:
1. Randolph Casey, b 1818 Ky; m Margaret Huddleston in MO; d 1900 in MO
2. Elizabeth "Betsy", b 1820 IL, m James Willard in IL; d 1903 MO
3. William Norris, b 1823 IL, Margaret Pace in IL; d aft 1880 maybe MO (he was a preacher. Moved to MO in 1851; back in IL for Civil War)
4. Elijah Jr, b 1825 IL (stayed in IL), m Sarah Ellen Forbes & Malinda Ann Bryant; d 1900 IL
5. James Rasmus, b 1827 IL; m Martha Waymon in IL; moved to MO abt 1867; d 1880 MO

Two of her sons (William and James) named a daughter Lucinda. Daughter Elizabeth named her first child Lucinda. Randolph had a granddaughter named Lucinda Noble Jolliff.
Son, Randolph named a son Elijah Summers (called "Eli"), and son, William also named a son Elijah Summers (called "Lige")
Lucinda named a son James Rasmus (Erasmus) for his two grandfathers. Randolph named a son James Rasmus ("Rab") and Rab named a son James Rasmus ("Razzie").

During the Civil War son Randolph fought for the South and his brother, Elijah, Jr. (and probably William) fought for the North.


Sources

  1. Noble family - http://mjgen.com/noble/noble.html
  2. Elijah Jolliff - http://mjgen.com/jolliff/3elijah.html
  3. 1820 census - Jolliff-63.jpg
  4. FAG - https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/95570207


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