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Pieter Willem Néel (1704 - abt. 1744)

Pieter Willem (Pieter) Néel
Born in de Caep de Goede Hoopmap
Ancestors ancestors
Husband of — married 8 Apr 1725 in de Caep de Goede Hoop, Dutch Cape Colonymap
Descendants descendants
Died about at about age 39 in Stellenbosch, de Caep de Goede Hoopmap
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Table Bay, South Africa (1762)
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Biography

Name

Pieter [1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9] Willem [1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9] Neél [1][4][9] / Nel [2][3][5][6][7][8]

Birth

Date: Pieter Willem Néel was born in 1696 [5] / about 1690 [6] / about/in 1703 [1][4][5][9] / 1704 [7][8] / in May 1704 [2] / between 1704 and 1705 [5]
Place: Stellenbosch [5][7] {Good Hope, Eastern Cape [SIC!]} [5] Cape [Province] [7], [South Africa] [5][7]

Parents

He is the son of Guillaume Nel and Jeanne la Batte. [4]

Marriage Parents

Date: 03 May 1685 [5]
Place: Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Netherlands [5]
Husband: Guillaume Nees [5]
Wife: Jeanne la Batte [5]
Child: Cornelia Nel [5]
Child: Pieter Willem Nel [5]

Marriage Proper

Date: 08 Apr 1725 [5][10]
Place: Western Cape, [South Africa] [5] Stellenbosch, Cape of Good Hope [10]
Husband: Pieter Willem Nel [5][11][10]
Wife: Aletta van Deventer [5][11][10]
Child: Willem Nel [5]
Date: Abt 1738 [2]
Place: [Cape Town], [South Africa] [2]
Husband: Pieter Willem Nel [2]
Wife: Aletta van Deventer [2]
Child: Cornelia Nel [2]
Child: Adriana Nel [2]
Child: Pieter Willemse Nel [2]
Child: Jacomina Nel [2]
Child: Gerrit Nel [2]
Child: Willem Nel [2]
Child: Johanna Nel [2]
Child: Johannes Nel [2][11]
Child: Gesina Nel [2]
Child: Jan Nel [2]

Death

Date: Between 1742 and 1801, 1764 (found multiple copies of death date. Using 1742) [5] / 1746 [8] / 1762. [7]
Place: [Cape Town] [2] {Good Hope, Eastern Cape [SIC!]} [5] [South Africa] [2][5]

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 WikiTree profile Néel-329 created by Pieter Meyer 28 May 2013.
  2. 2.00 2.01 2.02 2.03 2.04 2.05 2.06 2.07 2.08 2.09 2.10 2.11 2.12 2.13 2.14 2.15 2.16 2.17 2.18 2.19 WikiTree profile Nel-53 created through the import of My Family.Pretorius.Van_Wyk.DeWaal.Potgieter.2011.ged on Sep 19, 2011 by Judy Potgieter. Source:
    • Title: Genealogies of Old South African Families, Volume Two L-R Pama, C & C C de Villiers A A Balkema, Cape Town, Amsterdam, 1966
  3. 3.0 3.1 3.2 WikiTree profile Nel-126 created through the import of wikitree upload.ged on Jul 19, 2012 by Arrie Klopper.
  4. 4.0 4.1 4.2 4.3 4.4 WikiTree profile Néel-469 created by JJ Nel, 29 May 2014.
  5. 5.00 5.01 5.02 5.03 5.04 5.05 5.06 5.07 5.08 5.09 5.10 5.11 5.12 5.13 5.14 5.15 5.16 5.17 5.18 5.19 5.20 5.21 5.22 WikiTree profile Nel-773 was created through the import of Venter_2013_2015-01-12_2015-01-1402.ged on Jan 14, 2015 by Wilhelm Venter. Source:
    • Author: Ancestry.com Title: Public Member Trees Publication: Name: Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; (Provo, UT, USA, Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2006). Repository: www.ancestry.com Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members.;
    • Page: Database online. Data: Text: Record for Guillaume Néel;
    • Page: Database online. Data: Text: Record for King Ceraint Ap Greidiol;
    • Page: Database online. Data: Text: Record for Pieter Willem Nel;
    • Page: Database online. Data: Text: Record for Aletta VAN DEVENTER
  6. 6.0 6.1 6.2 6.3 WikiTree profile Nel-1598 created by Nadia Stols, 19 March 2017. Source:
    • [S2] De Villiers Pama Deel I A-K, De Villiers, Pama, (Kaapstad : AA Balkema, 1981), Deel II, L-R, p 628.
  7. 7.0 7.1 7.2 7.3 7.4 7.5 7.6 7.7 WikiTree profile Nel-1835 created by Colin Murphy 8 November 2017.
  8. 8.0 8.1 8.2 8.3 8.4 WikiTree profile Nel-2718 created by M Bale by 20 Sep 2019.
  9. 9.0 9.1 9.2 9.3 Source:
  10. 10.0 10.1 10.2 10.3 "South Africa, Dutch Reformed Church Registers (Cape Town Archives), 1660-1970 ," database with images, FamilySearch Marriage Pieter Willems Nel and Alletta Van Deventer, 08 Apr 1725: 21 May 2014, South Africa > Cape of Good Hope > Stellenbosch > Marriages 1700-1788 > image 9 of 39; State Archives, Cape Province. Seen and entered Nov 5, 2021 by Marco Nel
  11. 11.0 11.1 11.2 Parish registers for the Dutch Reformed Church at Paarl, Cape Province, Items 4 - 9, Baptisms 1694-1799, Film # 008120997 Baptism of son Johannes Nel, 13 Jan 1743 Seen and entered Nov 5, 2021 by Marco Nel




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I changed the death date as it is in conflict with the proven Baptism of his child Johannes Nel baptised 13 Jan 1743.
posted by Marco Johan Nel
Error data base alert: Warning: Check the data.
  1. A father's death date (Néel-329 died 1742) should not be more than nine months before one of his children's birth dates (Nel-62 born 13 Jan 1743) . May be false error - date of baptism instead of date of birth?
  2. A birth date (Néel-329 born May 1704) should not be within eight months of a sibling's birth date (Nel-470 born 23 Dec 1703) unless they are twins born within a day of each other. May be false error - date of baptism instead of date of birth?
posted by Philip van der Walt
edited by Philip van der Walt
Nel-2718 and Néel-329 appear to represent the same person because: Clear duplicates
posted by Leon Bezuidenhout
Nel-1835 and Néel-329 appear to represent the same person because: Duplicate profile, both profiles have the same son - Pieter Willem, born 1732 - Nel-69 and Nel-1834

LNAB needs to be confirmed

posted by Mary (Pistorius) Rudd
No need for immediate action, but the error database says: Warning: Check the data.
  1. A father's death date should not be more than nine months before one of his children's birth dates.
  2. A birth date should not be within eight months of a sibling's birth date unless they are twins born within a day of each other.
posted by Philip van der Walt
Nel-1598 and Néel-329 appear to represent the same person because: Duplicate. Néel-329 already existed. I'll do the final integration of the bio after the merge, thanks!
posted by Philip van der Walt
Could one of the active members of this profile also activate the [email address removed] as active manager to this profile, please? Thanks, Philip
posted by Philip van der Walt
Néel-329 and Nel-773 appear to represent the same person because: Seems to be the same person
posted by Wilhelm Venter
Néel-469 and Néel-329 appear to represent the same person because: Same data. Most probably the same person.
posted by Philip van der Walt
Nel-53 and Néel-329 appear to represent the same person because: Same data. Néel-329 has the correct French spelling of the LNAB.
posted by Philip van der Walt
Pieter Willem Nel -1903 - Free State - my grandfather

Ella Maria Nel - 1907 - my grandmother Please need some help to trace great grandparent s

posted by Ella Maria Erasmus