Ida (Odingsells) de Clinton (abt. 1265 - abt. 1325)

Born about 1265 in England

Ancestors

Wife of Roger (Herdeburgh) de Herdeburgh — married before 1282 in England

Wife of John (Clinton) de Clinton — married after 29 Sep 1286 in England

Descendants

Died about 1325 at about age 60 in Wroxall, Warwickshire, England [uncertain]

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Biography

Ida de Oddingseles, born about 1265, was the eldest daughter and co-heiress of William de Oddingseles, Knt., of Solihull, Warwickshire and Ela Fitz Walter, daughter of Walter Fitz Robert, Knt.^{[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9]}

She married first to Roger de Herdeburgh, Knt., of Prilleston, Norfolk, son and heir of Sir Hugh de Herdeburgh and Isabel de Turville.^[1][2][10] The date and place of their marriage are unknown. They had two daughters:

• Ela, wife of Sir Walter de Hopton, and of William le Boteler^[1][2]
• Isabel, died before 1316, wife of John de Hulles^[1][2]

Roger de Herdeburgh died before 9 February 1284.^[2][11] The manor of Prilleston (Billingford), Norfolk, was settled on Ida for her life, with remainder to her daughters Ela and Isabel.^[12][13]

Ida married second after 29 September 1286 to John de Clinton (or Clynton), Knt., 1st Lord Clinton, second but first surviving son and heir of Thomas de Clinton and Maud de Bracebridge.^{[1][2][14][15]} They had three sons and two daughters:

• John, Knt., 2nd Lord Clinton^[1] died before 1 April 1335, married Margery Corbett^[2]
• William, Knt., Earl of Huntingdon, Lord Clinton,^[1] died testate in August 1351, married Juliane de Leybourne, no surviving issue^[2]
• Thomas^[1][2]
• Joan, wife of Edmund Deincourt^[1][2]
• [probably] Elizabeth, wife of Sir Eble de Mounts, no known issue^[1][2]

In 1295, Ida was co-heiress to her brother, Edmund, inheriting manors in Warwickshire and a share of a manor in Hertfordshire.^[2]

Sir John de Clinton died before 7 January 1310/11. Ida was one of the ladies of the Queen's Chamber in 1311-1312 and she had protections to travel overseas with Queen Isabel in May 1313 and February 1313/4.^[2] It was stated that Ida died testate in 1325 while serving as Prioress of Wroxall.^[1][2] However, recent discussion [2017] has cast doubt on whether she was Prioress of Wroxall and a date of death of 1325, though she does appear to have died by Trinity 1328.^[16]

NB A Papal Petition of 1352^[17] confirms the link between the de Herdeburghs / le Botillers and the de Clintons. The petition was from the earl of Huntingdon on behalf of his nephew Edward Botillere for the canon and prebendary of Lincoln. William de Clinton, earl of Huntingdon was the son of John de Clinton and Ida de Odingseles, and Edward le Boteler was the son of Ela de Herdeburgh, daughter of Ida and Roger de Herdeburgh.

Sources

1. ↑ ^{1.00 1.01 1.02 1.03 1.04 1.05 1.06 1.07 1.08 1.09 1.10} Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2013), vol. II, pages 259-263 CLINTON 9 and 9.iii.
2. ↑ ^{2.00 2.01 2.02 2.03 2.04 2.05 2.06 2.07 2.08 2.09 2.10 2.11 2.12 2.13} Douglas Richardson. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 4 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham. 2nd edition. Salt Lake City, UT: the author, 2011, vol. I, pages 513-517, CLINTON 4.
3. ↑ T W King (1861) Some Observations relating to Four Deeds from the Muniment Room at Maxstoke Castle, co. Warwick. Archaeologia. Vol 38, Issue 2, pp272-279 [1].
4. ↑ W L Bowles and J G Nichols. Annals and Antiquities of Lacock Abbey, in the County of Wilts. 1835, p163 [2].
5. ↑ G Wrottesley. Extracts from the Plea Rolls, A.D. 1294 to A.D. 1307. Collections for a History of Staffordshire. Vol VII, 1886, p64 [3].
6. ↑ G Wrottesley (1905?) Pedigrees from the Plea Rolls Collected from the Pleadings in the Various Courts of Law, A.D. 1200 to 1500, from the Original Rolls in the Public Record Office. p544-545 [4].
7. ↑ 'Parishes: Pirton', in A History of the County of Hertford: Volume 3, ed. William Page (London, 1912), pp. 44-51. British History Online http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/herts/vol3/pp44-51.
8. ↑ 'Parishes: Solihull', in A History of the County of Warwick: Volume 4, Hemlingford Hundred, ed. L F Salzman (London, 1947), pp. 214-229. British History Online http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/warks/vol4/pp214-229.
9. ↑ 'Inquisitions Post Mortem, Edward I, File 73', in Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem: Volume 3, Edward I, ed. J.E.E.S. Sharp and A.E. Stamp (London, 1912), pp. 183-196. British History Online http://www.british-history.ac.uk/inquis-post-mortem/vol3/pp183-196. Inquisition Post Mortem of William de Oddingeseles. Items 286 & 287.
10. ↑ Antiquities of Warwickshire. By Sir William Dugdale. Second Edition, Vol. I, 1730, p92 [5].
11. ↑ Calendar of the Close Rolls, Preserved in the Public Record Office. Edward I. AD 1279-1288. HMSO, 1902, p424-425 [6].
12. ↑ An Essay Towards a Topographical History of the County of Norfolk. By Francis Blomefield. Vol. V, 1806, p319 [7].
13. ↑ Feudal Aids. Vol. 3, 1904, p478 [8].
14. ↑ The Complete Peerage. Vol III. Canonteign to Cutts. 1913, p312-313 [9].
15. ↑ The Clinton Family II. The Ancestor. Vol 10, 1904, p32-51 [10].
16. ↑ soc.genealogy.medieval [11].
17. ↑ Calendar of entries in the Papal Registers relating to Great Britain and Ireland. Petitions to the Pope. 1342-1419. Vol. I, 1896, p237 [12].

See also:

• A Genealogical Account of Clinton, Earl of Lincoln. The British Magazine. Dec 1762, pp625-634 (see p626) [13].
• W H Jones (1869) The Nomina Villarum for Wiltshire. Wiltshire Archaeological and Natural History Magazine. Vol XII, 1869, pp1-43 (see p19) [14].
• Collins's Peerage of England. Vol II, 1812, p183-184 [15].
• Calendar of the Close Rolls, Preserved in the Public Record Office. Edward II. AD 1313-1318. HMSO, 1893, p11-12 [16].
• Third Report of the Royal Commission on Historical Manuscripts. 1872 (Reprinted 1979), p262 [17].
• Calendar of the Patent Rolls. Edward II. AD 1321-1324. HMSO, 1904, p70 [18].
• Index of Placita de Banco 1327-1328. Part II. PRO Lists and Indexes No. XXXII, Reprinted 1963, p681 & 685 [19].
• Calendar of Chancery Warrants. A.D. 1244-1326. HMSO, 1927, p533 [20].
• 'Houses of Benedictine nuns: Priory of Wroxall', in A History of the County of Warwick: Volume 2, ed. William Page (London, 1908), pp. 70-73. British History Online http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/warks/vol2/pp70-73.
• Monasticon Anglicanum. Vol. IV, 1846, p89 [21]
• https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/soc.genealogy.medieval/J94Jz3rGq_w
• Lewis, Marlyn. Ida de Odingsells, entry in "Our Royal, Titled, Noble, and Commoner Ancestors and Cousins".

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Ida de Oddingseles is a descendant of Magna Carta Surety Baron Robert Fitz Walter in trails badged by the Magna Carta Project to the following Gateway Ancestors:

• William Asfordby: badged September 2022. See this trail HERE.*Walter Aston (MCA I:57-64 ASTON): trail was badged in June 2021 and is set out HERE.
• Thomas Booth (MCA I:258-261 BOOTH): trail was badged in April 2016 and is set out HERE.
• Obadiah Bruen: trail was badged in March 2021 and is set out HERE.
• Grace Chetwode: trail was badged in January 2023. See it HERE.
• Agnes Mackworth: trail was badged in April 2022. See the trail HERE.
• Anne Skipwith: badged September 2022. See the trail HERE.
• John Stratton: badged in May 2022. See this trail HERE.

Ida appears in several other unbadged trails (needing work) between FitzWalter and the following Gateways:

• Richard Saltonstall (MCA III:484-488 SALTONSTALL): trail needs development. See the trail HERE.
• Skipwith Gateways (siblings Diana and Grey Skipwith: trails needs further development and can be seen HERE (see 3rd cousin, Anne, above).
• Margaret Toutville (MCA I:215-224 FITZ WILLIAM): not yet developed. See the trail HERE.

See Base Camp for more information about identified Magna Carta trails and their status. See the project's glossary for project-specific terms, such as a "badged trail".