Robert Ogle (1379 - 1435)

Born 1379 in England

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Died 12 Aug 1435 at about age 56 in Ogle Castle, Northumberland, England

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Biography

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Sir Robert Ogle III, the eldest the son of Robert Ogle and Joan Heton, was born about 1370 and died 12 Aug 1436/7.^[1][2][3][4] Roskell, Park & Rawcliffe (1993), assert that Robert was born c. 1370.^[5][6] Other sources variously date his birth to c. 1379 or between 1380 and 1386.^[6]

His father's lands were given "on condition that such heirs male should bear the name of Ogle with the arms of Ogle and Bertram quartered." He was more than 26 when his father died and was his father's heir at age 30.^{[citation needed]}

He succeeded his father in 1409.^[5][7]

Feud over Bothal Castle

Robert attempted to take Bothal castle and manor from his younger brother John Bertram.^[7][8] Along with 200 men, Robert and his forces attacked the castle for four days in 1410.^[8][2]

One chronicler said Robert was jealous,^[8] while Parliament still refers to Bertram as the family "favorite."^[9]

After Bertram complained to Parliament, Robert had to go before the King to explain himself ... then give the property back!^[7][8] But at least some redemption was bound to happen...

According to Ogle & Engler (2012), Robert was the more powerful of the two sons, and had the favor of the king. After he, "satisfied the council," his "lands were immediately restored." That same month, he landed on the commission looking for a truce with Scotland.^[10]

Marriage

On 21 May 1399 Robert married, Maud Grey (d. aft. 1454).^[5][6][3]

Children

1. Sir Robert Ogle, 1st Baron Ogle (b. 1406).^[11][6] m. Isabel Kirkby (b. 1402 or earlier; bur. St. Andrew, Hexham, co. Northumb).
2. John, esq.' (alias: "Synfrid").^[6] m. Margaret, dau. of Roger Booth & Catherine, dau. of John Bold.
3. William, esq. of Choppington, co. Northumb.^[6]

Burke (1831), asserts that Robert and Maud had eight daughters who married men, "of first rank in the county,"^[7] but RIchardson (2011), points out they only had seven. ^[6]

1. "Janet" m. Robert (b. aft 1404 - d. 1461), son of John Manners of Etal (d. Oct 1438).^{[citation needed]}
2. Elizabeth m.1 William Heron^[6] (d. 01 Sep 1425), which resulted in another family feud. Remembered as, Causa de Heron, Sir Robert Ogle, sided with the Manners during the conflict.^[12] m.2 (aft. 01 Sep 1425) Sir John Middleton of Belsay, co. Northumb. (b. c. 1373), s. & h. of Sir John Middleton (d. 9 Aug. 1396) of East Swinburn, Northumb. & Christine (d. 10 Apr. 1422), d. & coh. of Elizabeth Acton of Jesmond^[13]
3. Margaret or Margery.^[6] m. Bertram Harbottle.^[7]
4. Constance m. (bef. 1413) Sir John Mitford, Knt. of Mitford,^[6]
5. ... m. Matthew Whitfield^[6]
6. Joan m. John Lilburne^[6]
7. ... m. Thomas Lisle^[6]

Occupation

Well after the family feud over Bothal Castle, Robert helped the Earl of Northumberland capture James, King of Scotland in 1423. Three years later, he was Northumberland's Sheriff,^[7][14] and in 1434 he and his son Robert, 1st Baron Ogle, were both serving as commissioners to keep the peace with Scotland.^[11]

Bef. 1408: knight.^[15]

1417: sheriff of Northumberland.^[15]

1419: constable of Wark.^[15]

1423: captain of Berwick.^[15]

1428: warden of Roxborough Castle^[3]

1428: King's knight.^[15]

10 Sep 1436: Beaten at Battle of Piperdean ^[3][16]

Death

By 1436/7, Robert died,^[7][4] and was succeeded by his son and heir ... Sir Robert Ogle who became the first Baron, Lord Ogle.^[7]

At the Inquisition post mortem for Robert Ogle, 20 September 1436, he was found to be holding lands "of Ralph, Earl of Westmorland.^[17]

Sources

1. ↑ Ogle, H.A.(1902). Ogle and Bothal: History of the baronies of Ogle, Bothal, and Hepple.
2. ↑ ^{2.0 2.1} Bothal Conservation Area: Character Appraisal, (2008). North of England Civic Trust, (pp. 14). www.wansbeck.gov.uk. PDF.
3. ↑ ^{3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3} Wikipedia: Ogle family
4. ↑ ^{4.0 4.1} Northumberland castle and fortalices in 1415. www.gatehouse-gazetteer.info. Web.
5. ↑ ^{5.0 5.1 5.2} Roskell, J.S., Clark, L. & Rawcliffe, C. (1993). "Ogle, Sir Robert (c.1370-1436), of Ogle, Northumb.," in The History of Parliament: the House of Commons 1386-1421. HOP
6. ↑ ^{6.00 6.01 6.02 6.03 6.04 6.05 6.06 6.07 6.08 6.09 6.10 6.11 6.12} Richardson, Douglas. Magna Carta Ancestry. 2nd Edition. 2011.pg 390 HERON, 8.
7. ↑ ^{7.0 7.1 7.2 7.3 7.4 7.5 7.6 7.7} Burke, J. (1831). A General and Heraldic Dictionary of the Peerages of England, Ireland, and Scotland. London: H. Colburn & R. Bentley. Google Books12 Jan. 2014.
8. ↑ ^{8.0 8.1 8.2 8.3} Hodgson, J. & Hodgson-Hinde, J., (1832). A Hist. of Northumb. II, 2, p. . E. Walker, 1832. Google Books. Web. 26 Jan. 2014.
9. ↑ "Bertram, John (d.1450), of Bothal, Northumb," (n.d.). The History of Parliament. The History of Parliament Trust, n.d. Web. 24 Jan. 2014.
10. ↑ Ogle, R.W. & Engler, J.F. (2012). Looking Back at the Ogle Family: A Comprehensive History and Genealogy of the Ogle and Ogles Families in America, Volume 1 (pp. I-54 - I-55). The Ogle/Ogles Family Association, Inc. Seattle, WA: The Genealogy Printing Co. Print.
11. ↑ ^{11.0 11.1} Ogle & Bothal, 1902, p. 45
12. ↑ Clark, L. (2006). Identity and Insurgency in the Late Middle Ages. pp.65. Boydell Press. Google Books.
13. ↑ Roskell, J.S., Clark, L. & Rawcliffe, C. (1993). "Middleton, Sir John (c.1373-1441), of Belsay, Northumb.," in The History of Parliament: the House of Commons 1386-1421. HOP
14. ↑ 1417 Sheriff of NBL (gatehouse-gazetteer.info)
15. ↑ ^{15.0 15.1 15.2 15.3 15.4} Blair, C.H. Hunter, (1843). "1403-36 Robert Ogle, Knt." Archaeologia Aeliana, p. 82-83. Society of Antiquaries of Newcastle upon Tyne. Archive.org. eBook.
16. ↑ Wikipedia: Battle of Piperdean
17. ↑ The Forty-Fifth Annual Report of the Deputy Keeper of the Public Records (London: 1885), 247, Google Books.

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