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Robert Ogle (1379 - 1435)

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Sir Robert (Robert III) Ogle
Born in Ogle Castle, Northumberland, Englandmap
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Died in Ogle Castle, Northumberland, Englandmap
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Preceded by
Baron of Hepple, Sir Richard Ogle, Knt.
Sir Robert Ogle
abt 1379 – 1437
Succeeded by
Robert, Baron of Ogle

Sir Robert Ogle III[1] (b. c.1370[2] 1379;[3] 1380/6.[1] - d. 1436/7).[3][4]

Contents

Biography

Sir Robert Ogle III (b. 1380/6),[2][1] succeeded his father in 1409 ... but he isn't remembered for being fair.[5][6] Along with 200 men, he stole Bothal castle and manor from his younger brother John Bertram. [6][7]

It wasn't just a simple walk-in, either. Robert and his forces attacked the castle for four days in 1410.[7][1]

One chronicler said Robert was jealous,[7] while Parliament still refers to Bertram as the family "favorite."[5]

To say the least, Robert's actions were frowned upon. John complained to Parliament, and Robert had to go before the King to explain himself ... then give the property back![6][7] But at least some redemption was bound to happen...

According to Ogle & Engler (2012), Robert was the more powerful of the two sons, and had the favor of the king. After he, "satisfied the council," his "lands were immediately restored." That same month, he landed on the commission looking for a truce with Scotland.

Well after the family feud, Robert helped the Earl of Northumberland capture James, King of Scotland in 1423. Three years later, he was Northumberland's Sheriff,[6][8] and in 1434 he and his son Robert, 1st Baron Ogle, were both serving as commissioners to keep the peace with Scotland.[9]

By 1436/7, Robert died,[6][4] and was succeeded by his son and heir ... Sir Robert Ogle who became the first Baron, Lord Ogle.[6]

Parents

Robert Ogle and Joan Heaton[10][11]

Marriage

m. (21 May 1399) Maud Grey [3][2] Issue:[6][12]

m. Bertram Harbottle
  • Isabel (Elizabeth)
m. John Middleton
  • Constance
m. Sir John Mitford, Knt.[13]
  • Anne
m. William Heron
  • Jenetta "Joan or Janet"
m. Robert Manners
  • (dau) ...
m. Matthew Whitfield[13]
  • (dau) ...
m. John Lilburne[13]
  • (dau) ...
m. Thomas Lisle[13]

Occupation

  • bef. 1408: knight.[3]
  • 1417: sheriff of Northumberland.[4]
  • 1419: constable of Wark.[5]
  • 1423: captain of Berwick.[6]
  • 1428: warden of Roxborough Castle[3]
  • 1428: King's knight.[7]
  • Beaten at Battle of Piperdean (10 Sep 1436)[3][15]

Sources

  • "Bertram, John (d.1450), of Bothal, Northumb," (n.d.). The History of Parliament. The History of Parliament Trust, n.d. Web. 24 Jan. 2014.
  • Bothal Conservation Area: Character Appraisal, (2008). North of England Civic Trust, (pp. 14). www.wansbeck.gov.uk. PDF.
  • Burke, J. (1831). A General and Heraldic Dictionary of the Peerages of England, Ireland, and Scotland, Extinct, Dormant, and in Abeyance ... England. London: H. Colburn & R. Bentley. Google Books. Web. 12 Jan. 2014.
  • Burley, P., Elliot, M. & Watson, H. (2013). The Battles of St Albans: Battleground War of the Roses. pp.33. Pen and Sword. Ebook.
  • Flower, W. (1881). The Visitations of Yorkshire in the Years 1563 and 1564. (pp. 233). Google Books.
  • Hodgson, John, and John Hodgson-Hinde. A History of Northumberland in Three Parts: Part 2. Vol. 2. N.p.: E. Walker, 1832. Google Books. Web. 26 Jan. 2014.
  • Lundy, D. The Peerage.[8][9][10]
  • Northumberland castle and fortalices in 1415. www.gatehouse-gazetteer.info
  • Ogle, H.A.(1902). Ogle and Bothal: History of the baronies of Ogle, Bothal, and Hepple. FamilySearch.org. eBook.
  • Ogle, R.W. & Engler, J.F. (2012). Looking Back at the Ogle Family: A Comprehensive History and Genealogy of the Ogle and Ogles Families in America, Volume 1 (pp. I-54 - I-55). The Ogle/Ogles Family Association, Inc. Seattle, WA: The Genealogy Printing Co. Print.
  • "Ogle, Sir Robert (c.1370-1436), of Ogle, Northumb," (n.d.). www.historyofparliamentonline.org.
  • Richardson, D. (2011). Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, (2nd ed., pp.390). Google Books. (see screenshot [11]).

Notes


  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 Bothal Conservation Area: Character Appraisal, 2008
  2. 2.0 2.1 Ogle, Sir Robert (c.1370-1436), n.d.
  3. 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 3.4 Wikipedia: Ogle family
  4. 4.0 4.1 Northumberland castle and fortalices in 1415.www.gatehouse-gazetteer.info
  5. 5.0 5.1 "Bertram, John (d.1450), n.d.
  6. 6.00 6.01 6.02 6.03 6.04 6.05 6.06 6.07 6.08 6.09 6.10 Burke, 1831.
  7. 7.0 7.1 7.2 7.3 Hodgson & Hodgson-Hinde, 1832
  8. 1417 Sheriff of NBL (gatehouse-gazetteer.info)
  9. 9.0 9.1 Ogle, 1902, p.45
  10. S00031 m. 24 Dec 1372 Chillingham, Staffordshire. Ancestry.com[citation needed]
  11. Robert III was the eldest son. His father's lands were given "on condition that such heirs male should bear the name of Ogle with the arms of Ogle and Bertram quartered." He was more than 26 when his father died and was his father's heir at age 30. [citation needed]
  12. Burke states Robert and Maud had 8 dau. who married men, "of first rank in the county'" but RIchardson says 7; Also see familypedia.wikia.com
  13. 13.0 13.1 13.2 13.3 13.4 13.5 13.6 Magna Carta Ancestry, 2011
  14. Ancestor of Kirkley Ogles in NBL & Worthy in Hampshire
  15. Wikipedia: Battle of Piperdean


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