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Robert Ogle (1379 - 1435)

Sir Robert (Robert III) Ogle
Born in Ogle Castle, Northumberland, Englandmap
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Husband of — married 21 May 1399 [location unknown]
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Died in Ogle Castle, Northumberland, Englandmap
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Preceded by
Baron of Hepple, Sir Richard Ogle, Knt.
Sir Robert Ogle
abt 1379 – 1437
Succeeded by
Robert, Baron of Ogle

Contents

Biography

Sir Robert Ogle[1][2] (b. c.1370 - d. 1436/7).[3][4]

Roskell, Park & Rawcliffe (1993), assert that Robert was born c. 1370.[5] Other sources variously date his birth to c. 1379 or between 1380 and 1386.[6]

Sir Robert Ogle III (b. 1370 x 1380/6),[7][2] was the eldest the son of:[5][8]

  • Robert Ogle of Ogle (b. 1353 - b. 1409),[5]
  • and Joan (b. c. 1358 - d. 12 Oct. 1416), third d. & coh. of Sir Alan Heton (d. Mar 1388).[5]

He succeeded his father in 1409.[5][9]

Feud over Bothal Castle

Robert attempted to take Bothal castle and manor from his younger brother John Bertram.[9][10] Along with 200 men, Robert and his forces attacked the castle for four days in 1410.[10][2]

One chronicler said Robert was jealous,[10] while Parliament still refers to Bertram as the family "favorite."[11]

After Bertram complained to Parliament, Robert had to go before the King to explain himself ... then give the property back![9][10] But at least some redemption was bound to happen...

According to Ogle & Engler (2012), Robert was the more powerful of the two sons, and had the favor of the king. After he, "satisfied the council," his "lands were immediately restored." That same month, he landed on the commission looking for a truce with Scotland.[12]

Marriage

On 21 May 1399 Robert married, Maud Grey (d. aft. 1454).[5][3]

Family of Maud Grey
Family of Maud Grey

children

sons:

m. Isabel Kirkby (b. 1402 or earlier; bur. St. Andrew, Hexham, co. Northumb).
Ogle barony
Ogle barony
  • 2. John, esq. (alias: "Synfrid").[7]
m. Margaret, dau. of Roger Booth & Catherine, dau. of John Bold.
  • 3. William, esq. of Choppington, co. Northumb.[7] - ancestor of Ogles of Kirkley, co. Northumb & Ogles of Worthy, co. Hants.[14]
Ogle of Choppington
Ogle of Choppington

daughters:

Burke (1831), asserts that Robert and Maud had eight daughters who married men, "of first rank in the county,"[9] but RIchardson (2011), points out they only had seven. [7]Two of the daughters:
  1. Janet
  2. and Isabel
married into Northumberland gentry engaged in another family feud. Remembered as, Causa de Heron, Sir Robert Ogle, sided with the Manners during the conflict.[15]
Causa de Heron was another family feud in  between the Heron and Manners family.
Causa de Heron was another family feud in between the Heron and Manners family.
[15]
  • Jenetta "Joan or Janet"
m. Robert (b. aft 1404 - d. 1461), son of John Manners of Etal (d. Oct 1438).
  • Isabel (Elizabeth) or Anne
m.1 William Heron (d. 01 Sep 1425)
m.2 (aft. 01 Sep 1425) Sir John Middleton of Belsay, co. Northumb. (b. c. 1373), s. & h. of Sir John Middleton (d. 9 Aug. 1396) of East Swinburn, Northumb. & Christine (d. 10 Apr. 1422), d. & coh. of Elizabeth Acton of Jesmond[16]
Heron of Hadeston & of Ford Castle
Heron of Hadeston & of Ford Castle
.
m. Bertram Harbottle.[9]
  • Constance m. (bef. 1413) Sir John Mitford, Knt. of Mitford,[7] (b. 08 Apr 1402 - d. 06 May 1437).
Sir John Mitford was a benefactor of the chantry of St. Thomas in St. Nicholas church at Newcastle. He died at the age of 35.
Sir John Mitford was a benefactor of the chantry of St. Thomas in St. Nicholas church at Newcastle. He died at the age of 35.
  • ... m. Matthew Whitfield[7]
  • ... m. John Lilburne[7]
  • ... m. Thomas Lisle[7]

Occupation

Well after the family feud over Bothal Castle, Robert helped the Earl of Northumberland capture James, King of Scotland in 1423. Three years later, he was Northumberland's Sheriff,[9][17] and in 1434 he and his son Robert, 1st Baron Ogle, were both serving as commissioners to keep the peace with Scotland.[13]

Death

By 1436/7, Robert died,[9][4] and was succeeded by his son and heir ... Sir Robert Ogle who became the first Baron, Lord Ogle.[9]

Sources

  1. Ogle, H.A.(1902). Ogle and Bothal: History of the baronies of Ogle, Bothal, and Hepple. FamilySearch.org. eBook.
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 Bothal Conservation Area: Character Appraisal, (2008). North of England Civic Trust, (pp. 14). www.wansbeck.gov.uk. PDF.
  3. 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 Wikipedia: Ogle family
  4. 4.0 4.1 Northumberland castle and fortalices in 1415. www.gatehouse-gazetteer.info. Web.
  5. 5.0 5.1 5.2 5.3 5.4 5.5 Roskell, J.S., Clark, L. & Rawcliffe, C. (1993). "Ogle, Sir Robert (c.1370-1436), of Ogle, Northumb.," in The History of Parliament: the House of Commons 1386-1421. HOP. Web.
  6. b. c. 1379
    Wikipedia: Ogle family
    b. c. 1380/6
    "Maud Grey," in Magna Carta Ancestry, 2011, p. 390.Google Books.
  7. 7.0 7.1 7.2 7.3 7.4 7.5 7.6 7.7 7.8 7.9 Richardson, D. (2011). Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 2nd ed., p. 390. Google Books. (see screenshot [1]).
  8. His father's lands were given "on condition that such heirs male should bear the name of Ogle with the arms of Ogle and Bertram quartered." He was more than 26 when his father died and was his father's heir at age 30. [citation needed]
  9. 9.0 9.1 9.2 9.3 9.4 9.5 9.6 9.7 Burke, J. (1831). A General and Heraldic Dictionary of the Peerages of England, Ireland, and Scotland. London: H. Colburn & R. Bentley. Google Books. Web. 12 Jan. 2014.
  10. 10.0 10.1 10.2 10.3 Hodgson, J. & Hodgson-Hinde, J., (1832). A Hist. of Northumb. II, 2, p. . E. Walker, 1832. Google Books. Web. 26 Jan. 2014.
  11. "Bertram, John (d.1450), of Bothal, Northumb," (n.d.). The History of Parliament. The History of Parliament Trust, n.d. Web. 24 Jan. 2014.
  12. Ogle, R.W. & Engler, J.F. (2012). Looking Back at the Ogle Family: A Comprehensive History and Genealogy of the Ogle and Ogles Families in America, Volume 1 (pp. I-54 - I-55). The Ogle/Ogles Family Association, Inc. Seattle, WA: The Genealogy Printing Co. Print.
  13. 13.0 13.1 Ogle & Bothal, 1902, p. 45
  14. see Category: Kirkley, Northumberland, Ogle Name Study
  15. 15.0 15.1 Clark, L. (2006). Identity and Insurgency in the Late Middle Ages. pp.65. Boydell Press. Google Books.
  16. Roskell, J.S., Clark, L. & Rawcliffe, C. (1993). "Middleton, Sir John (c.1373-1441), of Belsay, Northumb.," in The History of Parliament: the House of Commons 1386-1421. HOP. Web.
  17. 1417 Sheriff of NBL (gatehouse-gazetteer.info)
  18. 18.0 18.1 18.2 18.3 18.4 Blair, C.H. Hunter, (1843). "1403-36 Robert Ogle, Knt." Archaeologia Aeliana, p. 82-83. Society of Antiquaries of Newcastle upon Tyne. Archive.org. eBook.
  19. Wikipedia: Battle of Piperdean
  • Burley, P., Elliot, M. & Watson, H. (2013). The Battles of St Albans: Battleground War of the Roses. pp.33. Pen and Sword. Ebook.
  • Flower, W. (1881). The Visitations of Yorkshire in the Years 1563 and 1564. (pp. 233). Google Books.
  • Lundy, D. The Peerage.[2][3][4]


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