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Lydia (Pabodie) Grinnell (1667 - 1748)

Lydia Grinnell formerly Pabodie
Born in Duxbury, Plymouth Colonymap
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Wife of — married about 1683 [location unknown]
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Died at age 81 in Saybrook, New London, Connecticut Colonymap
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Biography

Lydia Pabodie's name has several varient spellings: Lydia or Lideah Pabodie or Peabody or Paybodie are the more common ones.

Birth

There are birth records for Lydia Pabodie for both Duxbury, Plymouth Colony (3 Apr 1667)[1] and for Little Compton, Plymouth Colony (21 Apr 1662). [2] Lydia was the youngest child of William Pabodie and Elizabeth Alden Pabodie. As discussed with the biographies of her parents, there is evidence that Lydia's parents still lived at Duxbury until at least 1673[3] and the family only moved to Little Compton about 1684.[4][5]

Marriage and children

In Little Compton, Lydia met and married Daniel Grinnell (bef.1668-1740). The Grinnell's had themselves recently relocated to Little Compton from Portsmouth, Rhode Island.[6][7][8][9] Little Compton was then part of Plymouth Colony which, in 1691, merged with Massachusetts Bay Colony.

Some sources suggest that Daniel and Lydia married about 1683.[10][11][12] However, if Daniel had indeed been born in 1668 then he would have been only about 15 years old at the time of his marriage. Good primary sources documenting the date of the marriage are lacking.

The marriage had taken place by 23 Jan 1687/88 when William Pabodie deeded to "my loving daughter Lidia and to her husband Daniel Grenell Junr of the said Little Compton" a parcel of land in the town.[13]

Lydia and Daniel had at least 10 children, born either in Little Compton, Rhode Island or Saybrook, CT:[14]

  1. Mary, b. about 1684; m. Robert Lay Junr. in Saybrook 12 Dec 1703[15]
  2. Priscilla, b. about 1686; m. Theophilus Redfield in Killingworth, Saybrook about 1706[16][17]
  3. Elizabeth, b. about 1689; m. John Stevens in Killingworth, Saybrook about 1709[18][19]
  4. Paybody, b. about 1684 ?[20][21] or 1687 ?[22] or 1698 ?[23]; m. (1) Ruth Nettleton in Saybrook on 8 April 1718[24], (2) Sarah Barnes in Saybrook on 20 Mar 1733.[25]
  5. Lydia, b. about 1692; m. Joseph Clark in Saybrook on 25 Sep 1712[26]
  6. Rebecca, b. say ca. 1695; m. (1) John Doud, (2) Gideon Wellman
  7. Sarah, b. say ca. 1698; m. (1) John Brooker in Saybrook on 29 Apr 1717[27], (2) John Pike, (3?) Joseph Nettleton
  8. George, b. 12 April 1702; m. Mary Bull in Saybrook on 31 Jan 1726[28]
  9. Jemima, b. 26 Jan. 1704/5 in Saybrook[29]; m. Abraham Chalker in Saybrook on 4 Mar 1724[30]
  10. Daniel, b. 11 Jan. 1707/8 in Saybrook[31][32][33]; died before Nov. 1726[34]

Birth or baptism records have so far been documented only for Jemima and Daniel. However, except for the son Daniel who had died without any children, all of the above children were named (including the married family names of the daughters) in their father Daniel's 1740 will.[35]

A 1935 Alden Genealogy lists these ten children plus two others not named in Daniel's will[36]:

  1. Ruth
  2. Benjamin, b. 1707[37]

Move to Saybrook, Connecticut Colony

Review of the available sources (i.e. the location of marriage of the first 9 children, the location of birth of the last two children, and the location of death of Daniel and Lydia) shows that the entire family moved from Little Compton, Massachusetts to Saybrook, Connecticut. The journey was very likely made by boat as both towns lie on the coast. Several sources suggest that the move took place about 1703:

  1. A Saybrook land record from 2 Sept 1702 recorded Daniel's purchase of 200 acres of land in Westbrook, Saybrook from Thomas Avery.[38]
  2. "On Sepember 6th following he sold his lands at Little Compton, 50 acres, to his brother Richard."[39]
  3. A Saybrook land record from 11 September 1703 refers to Daniell Grenell "of Little Compton RI"[40]
  4. Mary, the first of Daniel and Lydia's children to wed, got married in Saybrook on 12 December 1703[41]
  5. A Saybrook land record from 3 June 1706 refers to Daniel Grenell as "yeoman"[42]

Why would Daniel and Lydia have chosen to start life afresh in what was for them and their extended families a strange new colony after they had grown up in and begun to raise their own children in Little Compton?

Lydia was one of 14 charter members of the Congregational Church, founded in 1726 in W. Parish, now Westbrook, Connecticut.[43]

Death

Lydia died 13 Jul 1748 at Westbrook (then Saybrook), Middlesex Co., Connecticut.[44].

"Grinnell, Lydia, wife of Daniel, died July 13, 1748, in the 83rd yr of her age"[45]

Research Notes

Integrate into bio B-404 10:45, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
William Pabodie, her father, had an estate of £407. He left the land to his sons (some after wife's decease), and left his daughters, Mary, Mercey, Martha, Ruth, Sarah, Hannah, Lidia (also received a pair of green curtains), the heirs of Elizabeth and the heirs of Rebecca only one shilling each.[46][47] [46]

Sources

  1. ↑ Vital Records of Duxbury Massachusetts to the Year 1850. New England Historic Genealogical Society. 1911 (https://ma-vitalrecords.org/MA/Plymouth/Duxbury/Images/Duxbury_B114.shtml)
  2. ↑ "Rhode Island Births and Christenings, 1600-1914", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F87V-XF6 : 17 December 2019), Lydia Peabodie, 1662.
  3. ↑ William Pabodie did not purchase the land at "Sakonnet" (Little Compton) until 1673 and the family is not believed to have settled the land until several years later. See Historic and Architectural Resources of Little Compton, Rhode Island. Rhode Island Historical Preservation Commission. 1990. Page 5 (image 12) (https://preservation.ri.gov/sites/g/files/xkgbur406/files/pdfs_zips_downloads/survey_pdfs/little_compton.pdf#page=12)
  4. ↑ Little Compton Families, by Benjamin Wilbour, 1967. Volume II Page 436 via Ancestry.com
  5. ↑ "Little Compton, R.I. and the Wilbore Family". By Benjamin Wilbour. Page 1 of Vol. 5 No. 1 (January 1933) of Ye Wild Bore. "The proprietors continued to hold their meetings in Duxbury, where William Pabodie, their clerk, lived until 1681, after which time the meetings were held here [Little Compton] as Mr. Pabodie had moved to the town.” (https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/viewer/833500/?offset=1#page=1&viewer=picture&o=&n=0&q=)
  6. ↑ The Genealogical Dictionary of Rhode Island, By John Osborne Austin, 1887. See the top of page 310 (image 636 of 928)(https://archive.org/details/genealogicaldict00aust/page/n635/mode/2up?view=theater&q=Grinnell)
  7. ↑ Little Compton Families, by Benjamin Wilbour, 1968. Vol. 1, Page 307 (https://books.google.com/books?id=A5T3atymDIoC&pg=PA307#v=onepage&q&f=false)
  8. ↑ Representative Men and Old Families of Rhode Island: Genealogical Records and Historical Sketches of Prominent and Representative Citizens and of Many of the Old Families ...J.H. Beers & Company, 1908. (https://books.google.com/books/reader?id=JK8yAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA602#v=onepage&q&f=false)
  9. ↑ Primary documentation of their earliest presence there may be found in Little Compton records but these do not appear to be available online
  10. ↑ Little Compton Families, by Benjamin Wilbour, 1968. Vol. 1, Page 307 (https://books.google.com/books?id=A5T3atymDIoC&pg=PA307#v=onepage&q&f=false)
  11. ↑ Little Compton Families, by Benjamin Wilbour, 1967. Volume II Page 436 via Ancestry.com
  12. ↑ Susan E. Roser, (Genealogical Publ, Baltimore, 2nd ed. 1995).
  13. ↑ "Massachusetts Land Records, 1620-1986," images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9ZS-BVRY?cc=2106411&wc=MCBL-168%3A361612901%2C361839501 : 22 May 2014), Bristol > Deeds 1686-1696 vol 1-2 > image 139 of 431; county courthouses and offices, Massachusetts.
  14. ↑ Esther Littleford Woodsworth-Barnes, Mayflower Families through Five Generations, Vol 16, Part 1, The Descendants of John Alden, General Society of Mayflower Descendants, 2002. "The Silver Book" Page 80
  15. ↑ Vital Records of Saybrook Colony, 1636 - 1860. Compiled and edited under the directon of Elizabeth Plimpton, 1985. Page 38 (Extracts from the Land Records, Volume 2, page 168). This entry documents the date of the marriage and the births in Saybrook, from 1705 to 1717, of 6 of their children. An image of a transcription of "Town and miscellaneous records of Saybrook, Connecticut" (page 50/image 83 of 258) can be viewed at (https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/viewer/119143/?offset=0#page=83&viewer=picture&o=&n=0&q=).
  16. ↑ "Connecticut, Vital Records, Prior to 1850," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QP3W-274R : 15 April 2022), Priscilla Grinnell, ; citing Marriage, Killingworth, Middlesex, Connecticut, United States, Compiled by Lucius A. and Lucius B. Barbour, housed at State Library, Hartford, Connecticut; FHL microfilm 008272232. Barbour transcription specifies the name of the groom, name of the bride, location of the marriage, but does not specify the date of the marriage
  17. ↑ "Connecticut Births and Christenings, 1649-1906", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F746-TBX : 7 January 2020), Priscilla in entry for Daniel Redfield, 1707. Name - Daniel Redfield; Birth Date - 22 Sep 1707; Birthplace - Killingworth, New London, Connecticut, British Colonial America; Father's Name - Theophilus Redfield; Mother's Name - Priscilla
  18. ↑ "Connecticut, Vital Records, Prior to 1850," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPSP-4S39 : 15 April 2022), Elizabeth Grinnell, ; citing Marriage, Killingworth, Middlesex, Connecticut, United States, Compiled by Lucius A. and Lucius B. Barbour, housed at State Library, Hartford, Connecticut; FHL microfilm 008272232. Barbour transcription specifies the name of the groom, name of the bride, location of the marriage, but does not specify the date of the marriage
  19. ↑ "Connecticut Births and Christenings, 1649-1906", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F747-656 : 7 January 2020), Elizabeth in entry for Eliakim Steevens, 1710. Name - Eliakim Steevens; Birth Date - 16 Feb 1710; Birthplace Killingworth, New London, Connecticut, British Colonial America; Father's Name - John Steevens; Mother's Name - Elizabeth
  20. ↑ Little Compton Families, by Benjamin Wilbour, 1968. Vol. 1, Page 307 (https://books.google.com/books?id=A5T3atymDIoC&pg=PA307#v=onepage&q&f=false)
  21. ↑ Rootsweb Alden Kindred Tree (Link via Wayback Machine at Archive.org, capture date 04 June 2012.) With this estimate he would have been about 49 when he married 28 year old Sarah Barnes in 1733; 63 to 65 years old when his last known child was born; and 83 when he died.
  22. ↑ "Elizabeth (Alden) Pabodie and Descendants", by Mrs. Charles L. Alden, 1897. Page 69 (image 137 of 257) (https://archive.org/details/elizabethaldenp01aldegoog/page/n136/mode/2up) With this estimate he would have been about 46 when he married 28 yeard old Sarah Barnes in 1733; 60 to 62 years old when his last known child was born; and 80 when he died.
  23. ↑ Estimate based upon the year of his first marriage. With this estimate he would have been about 35 when he married 28 yeard old Sarah Barnes in 1733; 49 to 51 years old when his last known child was born; and 69 when he died.
  24. ↑ Vital Records of Saybrook Colony, 1636 - 1860. Compiled and edited under the directon of Elizabeth Plimpton, 1985. Page 29 (Extracts from the Land Records, Volume 2, page 172) This entry documents the date of the marriage, the births in Saybrook, from 1719 to 1732, of 7 of their children and the death on 9 Oct 1732 of "Ruth Grenell". An image of a transcription of "Town and miscellaneous records of Saybrook, Connecticut" (page 51/image 84 of 258) can be viewed at (https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/viewer/119143/?offset=0#page=84&viewer=picture&o=&n=0&q=).
  25. ↑ Vital Records of Saybrook Colony, 1636 - 1860. Compiled and edited under the directon of Elizabeth Plimpton, 1985. Page 30 (Extracts from the Land Records, Volume 2, page 172) This entry documents the date of the marriage and the births in Saybrook, from 1734 to 1747, of 7 of their children. An image of a transcription of "Town and miscellaneous records of Saybrook, Connecticut" (page 51/image 84 of 258) can be viewed at (https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/viewer/119143/?offset=0#page=84&viewer=picture&o=&n=0&q=).
  26. ↑ Vital Records of Saybrook Colony, 1636 - 1860. Compiled and edited under the directon of Elizabeth Plimpton, 1985. Page 20 (Extracts from the Land Records, Volume 2, page 540). This entry documents the date of the marriage and the births in Saybrook, from 1714 to 1718, of 3 of their children.
  27. ↑ Vital Records of Saybrook Colony, 1636 - 1860. Compiled and edited under the directon of Elizabeth Plimpton, 1985. Page 6 (Extracts from the Land Records, Volume 2, page 410) This entry documents the dates of the marriage, the dates of the births in Saybrook, from 1718 to 1732, of 5 of their children and the dates of death of 2 of their children and of the father John Brooker.
  28. ↑ Vital Records of Saybrook Colony, 1636 - 1860. Compiled and edited under the directon of Elizabeth Plimpton, 1985. Page 29 (Extracts from the Land Records, Volume 2, page 112) This entry documents the date of the marriage, and the dates of the births in Saybrook, from 1727 to 1738, of 5 of their children. An image of a transcription of "Town and miscellaneous records of Saybrook, Connecticut" (page 42/image 74 of 258) can be viewed at (https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/viewer/119143/?offset=0#page=74&viewer=picture&o=&n=0&q=).
  29. ↑ "Connecticut Births and Christenings, 1649-1906", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F7WJ-3WB : 7 January 2020), Jemima Greenell, 1704. Source gives birth date of 26 Jan 1704; father's name of Daniel Grenell and mother's name Lydia
  30. ↑ Vital Records of Saybrook Colony, 1636 - 1860. Compiled and edited under the directon of Elizabeth Plimpton, 1985. Page 14 (Extracts from the Land Records, Volume 2, page 439) This entry documents the date of the marriage, the dates of the births in Saybrook, from 1724 to 1744, of 10 of their children, and the dates of death of "Jemima Chalker" and two of their children
  31. ↑ "Connecticut Births and Christenings, 1649-1906", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F74L-BZ6 : 7 January 2020), Daniel Greenell, 1707.
  32. ↑ The Genealogical Dictionary of Rhode Island, By John Osborne Austin, 1887. See the top of page 311 (image 638 of 928)(https://archive.org/details/genealogicaldict00aust/page/n637/mode/2up)
  33. ↑ Little Compton Families, by Benjamin Wilbour, 1968. Vol. 1, Page 307 (https://books.google.com/books?id=A5T3atymDIoC&pg=PA307#v=onepage&q&f=false)
  34. ↑ This assumption appears to be based on a deed of 7 Nov 1726 with which Danield Grinnell gave land in Saybrook only to Paybody and George. Note that Daniel was not mentioned in his father's will -- suggesting that he died without children.
  35. ↑ Transcribed on pages 66 to 69 (images 131 to 137 of 257) of "Elizabeth (Alden) Pabodie and Descendants", by Mrs. Charles L. Alden, 1897.(https://archive.org/details/elizabethaldenp01aldegoog/page/n130/mode/2up)
  36. ↑ Alden Genealogy: Published under the Auspices of the Alden Kindred of New York City and Vicinity. Editted by Violet Turner. 1935 (https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=wu.89062953088&view=2up&seq=145&skin=2021)
  37. ↑ Name not given in Daniel's will but listed in "Elizabeth (Alden) Pabodie and Descendants", by Mrs. Charles L. Alden, 1897. Page 72 (https://archive.org/details/elizabethaldenp01aldegoog/page/n130/mode/2up)
  38. ↑ Saybrook Land Records, Volume 2, Page 20. As cited in "Elizabeth (Alden) Pabodie and Descendants", by Mrs. Charles L. Alden, 1897. Pages 68 - 69 (images 135 & 137 of 257) (https://archive.org/details/elizabethaldenp01aldegoog/page/n136/mode/2up)
  39. ↑ As cited in "Elizabeth (Alden) Pabodie and Descendants", by Mrs. Charles L. Alden, 1897. Pages 68 - 69 (images 135 & 137 of 257) (https://archive.org/details/elizabethaldenp01aldegoog/page/n136/mode/2up) This secondary source does not specify the primary source (Little Compton land records? Where can they be accessed?). Also, it is not clear that the 50 acres represented all of Daniel's lands.
  40. ↑ Vital Records of Saybrook Colony, 1636 - 1860. Compiled and edited under the directon of Elizabeth Plimpton, 1985. Page 29 (Extracts from the Land Records, Volume 2, page 90).
  41. ↑ Vital Records of Saybrook Colony, 1636 - 1860. Compiled and edited under the directon of Elizabeth Plimpton, 1985. Page 38 (Extracts from the Land Records, Volume 2, page 168). This entry documents the date of the marriage and the births in Saybrook, from 1705 to 1717, of 6 of their children. An image of a transcription of "Town and miscellaneous records of Saybrook, Connecticut" (page 50/image 83 of 258) can be viewed at (https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/viewer/119143/?offset=0#page=83&viewer=picture&o=&n=0&q=).
  42. ↑ Vital Records of Saybrook Colony, 1636 - 1860. Compiled and edited under the directon of Elizabeth Plimpton, 1985. Page 29 (Extracts from the Land Records, Volume 2, page 178).
  43. ↑ First Congregational Church of Westbrook, Connecticut : baptisms, marriages, deaths, memberships, 1725-1899, from the first four volumes of records : supplemented by gravestone inscriptions from Westbrook cemeteries by First Congregational Church of Westbrook, Connecticut; Rumsey, Jean. 1979. Image 10 (Page ii). (https://archive.org/details/firstcongregatio00firs/page/n9/mode/1up) The author explains that her account is largely based upon pages 58 to 74 of Westbrook History, Happenings and Hearsay, by Louise Chapman Dibble, Published in 1976 by the Westbrook Bicentennial Committee.
  44. ↑ Vital Records of Saybrook Colony, 1636 - 1860. Compiled and edited under the directon of Elizabeth Plimpton, 1985. Page 29 (Extracts from the Land Records, Volume 2, page 291). "Lydia Grenell the mother of the above Children Departed this Life in the 83rd year of her age, 13 July 1748". An image of a transcription of "Town and miscellaneous records of Saybrook, Connecticut" (page 40/image 72 of 258) can be viewed at (https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/viewer/119143/?offset=0#page=72&viewer=picture&o=&n=0&q=).
  45. ↑ Saybrook Vital Records from Barbour, 1668-1852 - E-J Transcribed by Coralynn Brown Grinell... : accessed 8 Jan 2019
  46. ↑ 46.0 46.1 Woodworth-Barnes, Esther Littlefield (comp.) Williams, Alicia Crane (ed.) Mayflower Families Through Five Generations. Volume 16, Part 1, Family of John Alden, (Plymouth, Massachusetts: General Society of Mayflower Descendants, 2002.) pp. ____.
  47. ↑ Bowman, George Ernest (transcriber), "William Pabodie's Will and Inventory," The Mayflower descendant : a quarterly magazine of Pilgrim genealogy and history, Vol 6, (Boston : Massachusetts Society of Mayflower Descendants, 1899) pp. 129-135; digital images, Internet Archive link : accessed 13 Jan 2023; cites Bristol PR 2:268-269.
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Daniel and Lydia (Pabodie) Grinnell did not have a daughter named Ruth. Her profile should be detached from these parents. (Esther Littleford Woodsworth-Barnes, Mayflower Families through Five Generations, Vol 16, Part 1, The Descendants of John Alden, General Society of Mayflower Descendants, 2002. "The Silver Book" Page 80)
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Lee-5956 Robin Lee
Pabodie-183 and Pabodie-2 appear to represent the same person because: based on dates and places, family, etc, this was intended to be the same person
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