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William Paine III (abt. 1560 - bef. 1621)

William Paine III aka Payne
Born about in Lavenham, Suffolk, Englandmap
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Husband of — married 1584 in Englandmap
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Died before before about age 61 in Lavenham, Suffolk, Englandmap
Profile last modified | Created 19 Aug 2011
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Biography

William Payne (Paine) of Laveham was the son of William and Joane Payne, also of Lavenham, Suffolkshire, England. His birth was not recorded in either Boxted or Lavenham. The Lavenham parish registers do not start until 1558. The marriages of William and his siblings, Thomas and Agnes are all recorded in Lavenham in the parish church of St. Peter and St. Paul. All of William's children were baptized in St. Peter and St. Paul in Lavenham. William died in 1621 and his wife Agnes (Ann) (Neves) Payne died in 1645, ten years after her son William and his family left England for the Massachusetts Bay Colony. William and Ann were buried in Lavenham and their deaths were recorded in the St. Peter and St. Paul church records. [1] [2]

William married Agnes (Ann) Neves in Lavenham in the Church of St. Peter and St. Paul on 28 December 1584. [3] William did not leave a will, but he was buried in the church yard of St. Peter and St. Paul on June 9, 1621. [3] Agnes (Ann) Payne wrote her will in 1635, it was not proved until April 1646. She left her property and goods to her daughter Susan and son Richard.[4]

Research Notes

Please do not confuse this William Payne with the William Payne, son of Anthony and Martha Castell, who was baptized in the church of St. Mary, Bury St. Edmunds on 2 Dec 1565. [5]

William Paine of Lavenham, husband of Agnes Neves and father of multiple immigrants to New England was not the son of William Payne of Bury St. Edmunds and Nowton. In 1881 and 1883, books were published on the ancestry of the Paine siblings who immigrated to Massachusetts. The authors of these books believed that they had found the ancestors in the Paynes of Nowton. In a 1915 article published in the Register, the Paine family was proved to be from Lavenham, their births, marriages and deaths were recorded in the Parish registers of St. Peter and St. Paul in Lavenham. They were a distinct family from the Bury Paynes. Despite this information being available since 1915 the incorrect ancestry has been perpetuated. [1]

Roberts blog article gives a nice explanation of these two families. [6]

In 1634 court case, Richard Paine of Lavenham, son of William and Agnes, was arrested in Bury St. Edmunds, a place he said was "far off" and where "he was a stranger." The Paynes of Nowton and Bury were well known in Bury St. Edmunds, having been part of the Feoffees who ran the town for many years. [7] [8]It has also been shown that the Payne family of Bury was considered "conservative" in their religion, meaning they were more "catholic" in their beliefs. The majority of the feoffees of Bury were anti-Puritan until a 1606 shakeup of the town government. [9]

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 G. Andrews Moriarity, "Genealogical Gleanings in England V," in The New England Historical and Genealogical Register, Vol.79 (The New England Historical Genealogical Society, Boston, 1925) pp. 82-84; digital images American Ancestors.
  2. Robert Charles Anderson, Great Migration: Immigrants to New England, 1634-1635, Vol. V, M-P, Boston, MA, New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2007, 2; digital image, American Ancestors (http://www.americanancestors.org/databases/great-migration-immigrants-to-new-england-1634-1635-volume-v-m-p/image/?pageName=340&volumeId=12155 : accessed 4 Oct 2015).
  3. 3.0 3.1 Scott, Henry Edwards. The New England Hostorical and Genealogical Register 1915, Vol LXIX (N.E. Historic Genealogical Society, Boston, 1915) "Payne; From the Parish Registers of Lavenham, co. Suffolk, 1558-1653," pp. 251-2.
  4. G. Andrews Moriarity, Genealogical Gleanings in England, 85.
  5. William Harvey, Robert Cook, John Earl Raven and Walter Charles Metcalf, "The Visitation of Suffolk Made by Hervey, Clarenceaux, 1561, Cooke, Clarenceaux, 1577, and Raven, Richmond, Herald 1613, with notes and an appendix of additional Suffolk Pedigrees, Exeter, William Pollard, 1882, 157; digital image, Internet Archive (https://archive.org/stream/visitationsofsuf00harvuoft#page/156/mode/2up : accessed 8 October 2015).
  6. Roberts, Jeanie. (2013) The Family Connection.
  7. "Gleanings from English Records," New England Historical and Genealogical Register, 103 (1949) 183-185, digital images, American Ancestors (https://www.americanancestors.org: accessed 5 February 2016).
  8. J. S. Craig, "The Bury Stirs Revisited, An Anlysis of the Townsmen," Proceedings of the Suffolk Institute of Archaelogy and History37 (1991), pp. 208-224
  9. Margaret Statham, Accounts of the Feoffees of the Town Lands of Bury St. Edmunds, 1569-1622, (Woodbridge, England : Boydell Press, 2003).


Acknowledgements

  • Thank you to Kay Martin for creating WikiTree profile Payne-3631.
  • WikiTree profile Paine-470 created through the import of EBENSTEIN-GRANGER.GED on Aug 19, 2011 by Merryann Palmer.
  • This profile has been edited by Tom Bredehoft 6/4/2013
  • This person was created through the import of grant2.ged on 07 February 2011.
  • This person was created on 24 May 2011 through the import of Conley - Dye,_2010-11-16.ged.
  • WikiTree profile Paine-338 created through the import of Durrell Family Tree.ged on Jul 4, 2011 by Pamela Durrell.
  • Thank you to Melinda Bowman for creating WikiTree profile Paine-776 .
  • Thank you to Karen Johnson for creating WikiTree profile Payne-3060.
  • Thank you to Kay Martin for creating WikiTree profile Paine-955.




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Should Paine-3636 (Thomas Paine) be moved to the Paynes of Nowton lineage instead of being listed as a son of William Paine III Payne-470?
posted by David Payne
Payne-19482 and Paine-470 appear to represent the same person because: dup family line created
posted by Traci Thiessen
Payne-19482 and Paine-470 are not ready to be merged because: different spellings lnab
posted by Traci Thiessen
In the biography of William Paine of Lavenham it states, "William married Agnes (Ann) Neves in Lavenham in the Church of St. Peter and St. Paul on 28 December 1684. " Since this William Paine of Lavenham died in 1621, it is not possible for his marriage to have been in 1684, as stated in the bio. I think it is a typo and should read 1584.
posted by Dave Dunlop
I believe that it has been proven, as long ago as 1915, that William, son of Anthony, married Elizabeth Sparrow in 1602 and at the time of the 1615 visitation had only one living child a daughter named Anna. She was named in her grandfather Anthony's will when he died in 1606. The Paines from Lavenham are a separate family.
Payne-5976 and Paine-470 appear to represent the same person because: They are the same person, just a different spelling of the last name.

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