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Walter Palmer (abt. 1589 - 1661)

Walter Palmer
Born about in Frampton, Dorset, Englandmap [uncertain]
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married before 1614 (to before 1629) in Englandmap
Husband of — married before 1 Jun 1633 in Charlestown, Suffolk County, Massachusettsmap
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 72 in Stonington, New London, Connecticut Colonymap
Profile last modified | Created 27 Jul 2010
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The Puritan Great Migration.
Walter Palmer migrated to New England during the Puritan Great Migration (1621-1640). (See Great Migration Begins, by R. C. Anderson, Vol. 3, p. 1379)
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NOTE: Do not merge the Palmer family of Duxbury with this Palmer family of Stonington.

Contents

Disputed Origins

There are Internet family trees claiming that Walter Palmer was born in 1585 in Parham, Somerset, the son of William or John Palmer and Elizabeth Verney. There is no known evidence to support this claim.

There is a counter supposition that Walter Palmer, "probably the son of Walter and Elizabeth (Carter) Palmer was likely born in the village of Yetminster, Dorsetshire, England sometime around 1585."[1] Apparently, the Palmer Family Association follows this theory.[citation needed] Perry Streeter, in 2020, debunked the Yetminster origins and proposed the more likely Frampton as Walter's place of origins without identifying a specific set of parents.[2]

In addition, to quote from this G2G thread: The book "Walter Palmer of Charlestown and Rehoboth, Massachusetts and Stonington, Connecticut (1986) ... agreed with Col. Charles Edward Banks' 1930's conclusion that Walter was likely a rural dairy farmer, after rejecting claims that he was the son of a Sir Thomas Palmer.... This book is refuting a different set of parents from what the Walter Palmer Society suggests is probable."

Some believe his family was connected to Sir Anthony Palmer - others believe John Palmer of Angmering may be Walter's ancestry. Many records needed for proof have been destroyed or are missing and any records discovered have probably disproved any possibilities.

For interested researchers continuing to link Walter to the John Palmer of Parham family, we have added a " PALMER MYTH " connection from John's family to the Walter Palmer now considered to be Walter's father. However, the Walter Palmer family of Stonington IS NOT FROM THE PARHAM AND ANGMERING PALMER FAMILY.

A previous version of this profile claimed, without source, that he was son of "John William" Palmer and Elizabeth Wheere. They have been detached.

Please use the attached G2G discussion thread to discuss evidence for his origins.

Disputed First Wife

While it is believed he had a wife (or wives) prior to his marriage to Rebecca Short in 1633, there is no evidence of the name of the earlier wife.

Please use the attached G2G discussion thread to discuss evidence for his wives.

Biography

Birth

There are many claims about his origins; Anderson estimates 1589 based on marriage date; location unknown.[3] His Find-A-Grave memorial claims October 1585, but only the birth year (not month) is legible on the photograph of the stone.[4]

Until more recent research reveals a more specific date, location and parents, WikiTree's Puritan Great Migration Project follows Anderson.

Unproven, possibly discredited, birth information includes

  • 1585, Somerset County, England
  • 1587, Parham, Somerset, England
  • OCT 1590, Somerset, Yetminster Parish, England
  • Christening: 09 OCT 1590, Moorlinch, Somerset, England

Emigration

Based on his presence in Massachusetts in 1629, it is believed he was on one of the six ships that came to Massachusetts in 1629 with 350 individuals, but it is not known on which ship.

Some claim he sailed on the Four Sisters.[5]

Anderson names no ship at all.[3]

“Now in this year 1629, a great company of people (The Higginson Fleet) of good rank, zeal, means and quality have made a great stock, and with six good ships in the months of April and May, they set sail from Thames for the Bay of the Massachusetts, otherwise called Charles River. The fleet consisted of, the George Bonaventure of twenty pieces of ordnance; the Talbot nineteen; the Lion’s Whelp eight; the Mayflower fourteen; the Four sisters fourteen and the Pilgrim four, with 350 men women and children, also 115 head of cattle, as horses, mares, cows and oxen, 41 goats, some conies (rabbits), with all provision for household and apparel, 6 pieces of great ordnance for a fort, with muskets, pikes, corselets, drums, colors, and with all provisions necessary for a plantation for the good of man.” [6]

Residences in New England

Salem Harbor and Charlestown

Walter disembarked at Salem Harbor in 1629 and resided Charlestown.[7] He is listed as a Founder.[citation needed]

Rehoboth

He removed to Rehoboth, 1644[8] and is listed as a Founder.[citation needed]

Rehoboth consisted of the "Ring of Green" [9] whose southern border was the Ten Mile River. Walter Palmer's property was South of the Ten Mile River connected to the "Ring of the Green" by "Palmer's Bridge". Some accounts mention that William Cheesbourough and Walter Palmer were there originally.

Rehoboth Ring of the Green Map

Stonington

Lastly, he removed to Stonington in 1653[10] where he lived out his life. He is listed as a Founder.

Manslaughter Charges

On September 28, 1630 there was recorded a "Jury called to hold an inquest on the body of Austine Bratcher." It found

"that the strokes given by Walter Palmer, were occasionally the means of the death of Austin Bratcher, and so to be manslaughter. Mr. Palmer made his psonall appearance this day (October 19, 1630) & stands bound, hee & his sureties, till the nexte court."

At a court session of "a court of assistants, holden att Boston, November 9th 1630" numerous matters were taken up and disposed of, including the trial of Walter Palmer and one other item of interest: "it is ordered, that Rich. Diffy, servt. To Sr. Richard Saltonstall, shal be whipped for his misdemeanr toward his maister."

"A Jury impannell for the tryall of Walter Palmer, concerning the death of Austin Bratcher: Mr. Edmond Lockwood, Rich: Morris, Willm Rockewell, Willm Balston, Christopher Conant, Willm Cheesebrough, Willm Phelpes, John Page, Willm Gallard, John Balshe, John Hoskins, Laurence Leach, /The jury findes Walter Palmer not guilty of manslaughter, whereof hee stoode indicted, & soe the court acquitts him." [citation needed]

The above is the first discovered reference to William Chesebrough, one of Walter's closest friends.

Occupation and Public Life

Walter was a Farmer and Dairyman.

Walter became very prominent in the affairs of Charlestown, holding public office and is listed among the first group of men who took the Oath of Freeman of Massachusetts Bay Colony, Community of Charlestown (sic) on May 18, 1631. The original list included, "Mr. Roger Conant, John Balche, Ralfe Sprage, Simon Hoyte, Rick: Sprage, Walt (Walter) Palmer, Abraham Palmer, Mr Rich: Saltonstall, Rich: Stower, Czekiell Richardson, Wm Cheesebrough. [3]

Wives

Walter apparently had a wife or wives before coming to the Americas, her/their names are not yet known.

Walter's second wife was Rebecca Short as follows:

Reverend Eliot's records of the Roxbury First Church state: "Rebeckah Short, a maide srvant, she came in the yeare 1632 and was married to Walter Palmer a Godly man of Charlestown Church." Their marriage date 1 June 1633 is the same date Walter and Rebecca were admitted to the Church of Charlestown. [11]

Death

Walter died 10 Nov 1661 (Julian, equal to 11-20-1661 (Gregorian) at Stonington, [3] New London, Connecticut and is buried in Wequetequock Burial Ground, Stonington, New London, Connecticut.[12][13]

Children

Palmer's will [14] identified 11 children; a twelfth, Elizabeth Palmer-69, was proved by the Diary of Thomas Minor. The seven children listed below were by wife Rebecca since the first 5 of those 7 were baptized sequentially at Charlestown 1 or more years after Rebecca married Walter. Children Gershom and Rebecca must have been born at Rehoboth. Children Grace, John, William and Jonas named by the testator were evidently older and thus by a different wife, name unknown.
<With wife Rebecca:

  1. Hannah (1634-1681)
  2. Elihu (1635-1665)
  3. Nehemiah (1637-1717)
  4. Moses (1640-1701)
  5. Benjamin (1642-1715)
  6. Gershom (1644-1718)
  7. Rebecca (1647-1713)

Research Notes

Arms. A crest of arms has been associated with him:[15]

Arms -- Or, two bars gules, each charged with three trefoils slipped vert, in chief 2 greyhound courant sable.
Crest -- A demi-panther rampant guardant, flames issuing from ears and mouth proper, supporting a palm branch.
Motto -- Palma virtuti.

Brother? Some say he came over with a brother Abraham Palmer:[16]

WALTER Palmer, the progenitor of the family of his name, who first settled in Charlestown, came to New England as early as 1628, with his brother, Abraham Palmer, a merchant of London, England, and nine associates.

Other claims include Walter was a large man -- it was said he was 6' 5", weighing 200 to 300 lbs. [17]

Sources

  1. The Palmer family of Long Island
  2. Perry Streeter, "Walter Palmer of the Great Migration: Probable Origins in Frampton, Dorset," in New England Historical and Genealogical Register, 174 (Winter 2020):21–25, Link
  3. 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 Robert Charles Anderson, The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Volumes I-III. Walter Palmer
  4. Find A Grave: Memorial #7158495 - Wequetequock Burial Ground, Stonington, New London, Connecticut
  5. Anne Stevens, The Four Sisters (PackratPro).
  6. The True Travels, Adventures and Observations of Captain John Smith - London 1630
  7. Robert Charles Anderson, The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Volumes I-III, 3 vols., paginated consecutively (1995), 1379-1383 (Walter Palmer), at 1379; digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors.
  8. Robert Charles Anderson, The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Volumes I-III, 3 vols., paginated consecutively (1995), 1379-1383 (Walter Palmer), at 1379; digital images by subscription, American Ancestors.
  9. Rehoboth Ring of the Green Map “Historic Bus Tour 2016: A map of the “Ring of the Green,” the original town center of Rehoboth, now located in Rumford, RI. “, Rehoboth Antiquarian Society Newsletter, March 2016, pp 3-4, original image accessed 25 Oct 2018 has been removed from the internet.
  10. Robert Charles Anderson, The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Volumes I-III, 3 vols., paginated consecutively (1995), 1379-1383 (Walter Palmer), at 1379; digital images by subscription, Hathi Trust.
  11. I have seen a true copy of Reverend Eliot's record - Al Butchino; better source sought.
  12. Minor, Thomas. Diary Of Thomas Minor, Stonington Connecticut, 1653 to 1684 (The Day Publishing Co., Conn., 1899) page 47 cited in GMB
  13. Find A Grave: Memorial #7158495 - Wequetequock Burial Ground, Stonington, New London, Connecticut
  14. Leavitt, Emily W., Groups of Palmer Families from Walter Palmer of Charleston and .... pp. 10-14 (1901), printed privately, available oniine
  15. page 378, Volume of Colonial Families of the United States of America
  16. Richard Anson Wheeler, "History of Stonington, Connecticut, 1649 - 1900", (Press of The Day Publishing Company,1900); link.
  17. Haynes, William, Stonington Chronology 1649-1949 p. 12 (Pequot Press 1949)

See also:

  • Derbyshire, England, Extracted Parish Records, Author: Ancestry.com Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2001. Original data - Electronic databases created from various publications of parish and probate records.
  • Massachusetts Applications of Freemen, 1630-91, Author: Ancestry.com Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2000.Original data - Paige, Lucius R.. List of Freemen of Massachusetts. Boston, MA, USA: New England Historical and Genealogical Society, 1849.
  • Connecticut Deaths and Burials Index, 1650-1934
  • Find A Grave: Memorial #7158495
  • Filby, P. William. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s (Gale Research, Farmington Hills, MI, USA, 2012)
  • American Genealogical-Biographical Index, Godfrey Memorial Library, Middletown, CT, USA
  • Ancestral File Number: 19PX-6NT
  • Baldwin, John D. (1880). A Record of the descendants of John Baldwin of Stonington, Conn.: with notice of other Baldwins who settled in America in early colony times. Printed by Tyler and Seagrave, Worcester, Mass. (pg 13)
  • Jackson, Ronald V., Accelerated Indexing Systems, comp. Massachusetts Census, 1790-1890 (Ancestry.com Operations Inc, Provo, UT, USA, 1999). Microfilmed schedules of the U.S. Federal Decennial Census, territorial/state censuses, and/or census substitutes.
  • Family Search - needs more detail
  • Early Families of New England, 2013. New England Historic Genealogical Society; Alicia Crane Williams, Lead Genealogist. Membership required. George Denison (m.1640)
  • Palmer Palmer Surname Message Board (Ancestry.com)
  • Walter Palmer (Puritan), Wikipedia
  • Grow, William B. (1816-1913), "Eighty-five years of life and labor." Carbondale PA: Grow, William B, 1902), page 6-8
  • Parsons, Gerald James, The Palmer family: Ancestors and descendants of Othniel Palmer (1743-c1798) revolutionary soldier of Stonington, Conn., and Saratoga and Cayuga Counties, N.Y. (Syracuse NY: Self-published, 1978; rev. 1985) ASIN: B0007BW5LE.
    • Walter Palmer (d.1661) immigrated about 1629 from England to Charleston, Massachusetts, married twice, and moved to Stonington, Connecticut. Othniel Palmer (1742/1743-ca. 1798), direct descendant in the fifth generation, married Silence Stevens, and moved from Rhode Island to Connecticut to Massachusetts, and then to Cayuga County, New York. Descendants and relatives lived in New England, New York, Indiana, Illinois and elsewhere.
  • Streeter, Perry. Walter1 Palmer of the Great Migration: Probable Origins in Frampton, Dorset, The New England Historical & Genealogical Register (NEHGS, Boston, Mass., Winter 2020) Vol. 174, WN 693, Page 21.




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I have corrected the misleading statement that Palmer's gravestone shows no legible date of birth. Per the web-linked photo of the gravestone, his stated year of birth (1585) is quite legible. I cannot tell whether it is the original grave marker.

I also edited Palmer's date of death to the Gregorian date (11-20-1661) (preferred by WT) which corresponds to the Julian date of 11-10-1661 that appeared in the Diary of Thomas Minor on p. 47 (where he also said Palmer departed life on the "sabath") ; Nov. 20, 1661 was a Sunday. I've added a source for Walter's will (available onine) and revised the note about his children in accord with a comment I posted some time ago.

posted by Charles Clark
edited by Charles Clark
Hi Charles,

Thank you for this explanation.

I do apply double dates (ala, old style/new style), but have not made the ten/eleven day conversion when posting dates on WikiTree. For example, when the record gives a date 25 February 1682, I will try to determine if that date intended the year 168[1/2] or 1682[/3], and enter the year accordingly, without changing the day or month.

Am I approaching this wrong? --Gene

posted by GeneJ X
For date fields, the WikiTree guidance is to use the Gregorian (i.e., new style) date, but I have always interpreted this as meaning the new style year -- not to literally convert from Julian to Gregorian, which would create a lot of confusion. The guidance on Joe's excellent primer on dates, calendars & genealogy, summarizes the rules here: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Dates%2C_Calendars_and_Genealogy#Rules

Basically - (1) use the date found in the document, (2) convert the year to new style, if needed, for date fields; and (3) use the os/ns dating for the year in the narrative biography.

posted by Scott McClain
If you scroll down a little further to the blue text it adds: "Note that we do not ever completely adjust the Gregorian calendar to Julian or vice versa, i.e. we do NOT make a change to the days, we only adjust the start date of the new year."
posted by M Cole
Yes, the guidance on Joe's free space page is very clear that you never convert, but the guidance I was referring to that I thought could be ambiguous is on the official help page for Date Fields, which is here.
posted by Scott McClain
Hi Scott,

And it is that guidance, at "Julian vs Gregorian Calendar" (on "Help:Date Fields") that could/should be improved to,

  1. Note we not attempt to make the full adjustment ...
  2. Removed the comment, "Here is a simple rule of thumb for the most common case: If you see a date from the 1600s or 1700s that has a slash in it, e.g. 1718/19, use the later of the two dates, e.g. 1719."
  3. Recommend that dates in the biographical narrative should use "double dates," but that we always use the "new style" year in the data fields.
  4. Develop a new "simple rule of thumb" that would accommodate both narrative and data field guidelines.
posted by GeneJ X
edited by GeneJ X
This is an example of how the England Project do dates

Example 3 : I have a record for a baby baptised 3 March 1666 - how do I show this in the profile?

3 March 1666 Old Style would be 3 March 1667 New Style. This is written as 3 March 1666/7 to show the two styles of years. If the two years spanned the end of a decade, use the last two digits of the year when writing it down (for example 1669 and 1670 are written as 1669/70). In the biography, always use double dating when appropriate (1 January - 24 March) in the years up to 1752 when the Old Style calendar was in use. In the Date Fields on Wikitree, treat the date as though it was happening in the New Style calendar and enter the later year. Do not enter it as a combination of the two years with a / in the date. This will generate an error message.

posted by Ann Browning
If there are no objections, I plan to change the narrative term, "unproven" to "unproven, possibly discredited." --Gene
posted by GeneJ X
edited by GeneJ X
This one appears to be similar

Palmer (Wingham, co. Kent, and Domey Court, co. Buck- ingham, bart., extinct). Or, two bars gu. each charged with three trefoils ar. in chief a greyhound courant sa. C}-est — A demi panther ramp, issuing flames out of its mouth and ears, holding in the paws a holly branch, with leaves and berries all ppr. Motto — Palma virtuti.

Still not exactly the same though

posted by Ann Browning
There are other Palmers with the same motto in Burke’s

https://archive.org/details/generalarmoryofe00burk/page/772/mode/2up?q=Palmer

Ann

posted by Ann Browning
Jonah, son of Walter Palmer, was baptised in 1627 in Frampton, Dorset, England.<ref>

Baptism: "England, Select Dorset Church of England Parish Registers, 1538-1999"

England, Dorset, Parish Registers. Salt Lake City, Utah: FamilySearch, 2013; FHL Film Number: 002427488

Ancestry Record 9849 #1701413 (accessed 8 September 2022)

Jonah Palmer baptism in 1627, son of Walter Palmer, in Frampton, Dorset, England. </ref>

Ann

posted by Ann Browning
Under RESIDENCES” , “removed to Charlestown about 1631”

Several secondary sources placed Palmer in Charlestown in 1629, no record of him residing elsewhere, no reason to place him elsewhere until 1631. Since Palmer is credited with being one of Charlestown’s founders and it was founded in 1629, the text should read “settled in Charlestown in 1629, not “removed … about 1631 to Charlestown....” Consider: The town was laid out by Thomas Graves in 1629. The influx from 6 ships in 1629 could not all reside within Salem. Church services were held in Charlestown in July 1629 by Rev. Bright (online record of the First Congregational Church of Charlestown, later Boston). Palmer in 1630 was overseer for absentee owner Matthew Cradock’s plantation in Medford. Medford was part of Charlestown in 1629. The only court having jurisdiction of Palmer’s trial for manslaughter (or any crime) was the General Court which in 1630 sat in Boston. The bondsmen during Walter’s manslaughter trial were Richard Sprague and John Strickland, both among the first settlers of Charlestown. Shelters for the numerous arrivals of 1629 were few. Top priorities for a religious dairyman with ~ 5 children + cattle in tow would have been to select a permanent homesite near pasture for his cattle and build a permanent shelter where services of a minister were readily accessible. A number of historical accounts state Palmer did just that in Charlestown, then similarly at Rehoboth and Stonington (where the Palmers traveled to New London to attend church until a minister arrived in 1657).

posted by Charles Clark
Hi Charles,

Thank you. Will correct. Anderson has his migration as 1629 and first residence as Charlestown.

Robert Charles Anderson, The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Volumes I-III, 3 vols., paginated consecutively (1995), 1379-1383 (Walter Palmer), at 1379; digital images by subscription, Hathi Trust.

posted by GeneJ X
TWO REFERENCES TO ABRAHAM PALMER

Abraham Palmer was a merchant from London (per Jas. Savage), of some means and among the first residents of Charlestown but wasn’t a bondsman during Walter’s manslaughter trial (bondsmen were Richard Sprague and John Strickland, both of Charlestown). Hence Abe was not Walter’s brother nor any near kin.

posted by Charles Clark
Under BIRTH, consider adding (amid other unproven origins)

Frampton parish, Co. Dorset + citation to a source. Palmer's presence in Frampton when he was about age 30 does not prove he was born there; that claim is also unproven, though I agree with listing it in the header since most likely origin. Same heading, Yetminster parish is in Co. Dorset, not Somerset

posted by Charles Clark
edited by Charles Clark
Hi Charles Clark,

Thank you.

As to his birth, I find the profile contradictory. On the one hand, we are determined to follow Anderson , who referenced no location for his origin or birth. while reporting Frampton, Dorset in the data field.

I plan to add a maintenance category -- needs research. --Gene

posted by GeneJ X
Under OCCUPATION: “the manslaughter trial may have held up Walter’s ability to become a freeman in 1630.”

Proposed Action: DELETE: This follows a statement that the original list was dated 5-8-1631. There were no freemen selected before 1631.

posted by Charles Clark
Thank you, Charles Clark. Done. --Gene
posted by GeneJ X
If Walter Palmer's origins are disputed, why does he have parents attached, especially without an explanation and apparent sources?
posted by J Briller
Thanks for flagging this. Looks like they rode in on a recent merge. I added them to the disputed origins section and detached them. Also did a minor update based on Perry Streeter's recent article.
posted by Jillaine Smith
Can you complete merge on your end or do I need to do it?
posted by Alan (Smith) Peet
Palmer-22190 and Palmer-70 appear to represent the same person because: same person; please merge
posted by Dave Rutherford
“Walter-1 Palmer of the Great Migration: Probable Origins in Frampton, Dorset” is the free-for-everyone article from the Winter 2020 issue of The New England Historical and Genealogical Register:

https://media.americanancestors.org/uploadedfiles/media/the_register/nehgr-2020-winter-freearticle.pdf

As noted in the article, Walter’s descendants should be grateful to Elmer Hall Palmer, Doris Lillian (Palmer) Buys and others for establishing a firm foundation for others to build on.

posted by Perry Streeter
Perry, thanks for sharing your article. Please feel free to update this profile with its findings.
posted by Jillaine Smith
There is an article about his origins in the NEHGR winter 2020 issue.
posted by Chase Ashley
marked as false suggestion
posted by Anne B
Hello Profile Managers, Please note there is a Suggestion that needs attention! Thanks.

https://wikitree.sdms.si/function/WTStatus/Status.htm?ErrID=575&UserID1=170097&UserID2=7158495

posted by Paula (Hawkins) Reinke
Regarding records of the descendants of Walter Palmer, there exists an OCR version of the first Palmer family reunion: [1], beginning on page 64, is an historical address given by a Judge Wheeler, of the history of Walter Palmer's life. This was given on the occasion of the First Palmer Family Reunion, at Stonington, CT. As the reunion was in 1881, it might offer some details by those closer to the times; also insights. It also appeared to be an occasion of great hyperbole and emotion for many.

Still, some of those who attended provided ancestral links/hints; if this publication has not already been perused, it might be useful. An actual, scanned copy of the same book (and the historical address) is here: [2]

I corrected wikidata.
posted by Joe Cochoit
Per Suggestions Report 10-4-2018; Wikidata reports the death date of Walter Palmer to be Oct rather then Nov 10, 1661. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7965780

I added a Note in bio under Death info

posted by Katie Pyle
After the initial creation of this profile, a death date of 19 Nov 1661 at Stonington, New London, Connecticut was added.

If that is correct this looks like a duplicate of the profile for Walter Palmer (Palmer-70), which shows as 'rejected, not a duplicate' at the bottom of this profile.

Please either remove the death date or explain the coincidence or merge Palmer-9144 into Palmer-70.

Anderson lists no other Walter Palmer who came early to New England. If this Walter Palmer did not emigrate, but died in England, please indicate.

I am removing John and Elizabeth (Verney) Palmer as parents of Walter Palmer, and removing his birth location of Parham.

It is PGM project policy to use The Great Migration series by Charles Robert Anderson as the preferred source for profiles that are in the PGM project.

Anderson states that Walter Palmer's origins are unknown, and his birth date is merely an estimate. If we are to go beyond Anderson's knowledge, we need to present strong, recent sources that show where we found the evidence.

I've removed text from this bio referring to Walter Palmer being "a naylor/nailer", and father of William Palmer of Duxbury. Willliam Palmer Sr., and his son William Palmer, Jr. of Duxbury, are a different Palmer family.

Palmer-9145 and Palmer-9144 appear to represent the same person because: same birth, please add your sources, also
posted by Robin Lee