Kathie (Parks) Forbes
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Kathie (Parks) Forbes

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Kathie Forbes formerly Parks
Born 1940s.
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A third-generation Washingtonian, I grew up in northern Virginia. My great-grandfather, Lewis Cass White a Civil War veteran, moved to Washington after the war to work for what was then called the Pension Bureau (now Veterans' Affairs). He married Susannah Yount, a Pennsylvania German. My grandmother, Sadie White and mother, Florence Evans were both born in Washington, D.C. Her father William Evans grew up on a farm in western New York, the grandson of recent Welsh immigrants and descendant of English immigrants who arrived about 1640. My father, Joe Parks [1] was from Oklahoma, the son of James A T Parks a Cherokee Methodist minister and Florence Youngblood a woman from Mississippi who went to Oklahoma to teach Indians in 1913. I graduated from the University of New Hampshire married Kerry Forbes [2] and ended up living in New Hampshire and working at the University of New Hampshire for almost 50 years. I have three children and six grandchildren. After retirement I returned to northern Virginia. I am a citizen of Cherokee Nation and have been studying Cherokee history and working with Cherokee genealogy for over 35 years.

Most of my European ancestors immigrated to America in the 1600's and early 1700's from the British Isles, mostly Scotland/Northern Ireland and Wales. My genealogical goal is to trace each line back to the immigrant ancestor.

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  1. Paternal relationship confirmed by Gedmatch match of 3586.9cm between kits T248947 (Joe) and A340796 (Kathie) at a genetic distance of 1.
  2. "Virginia, Marriage Certificates, 1936-1988," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK96-8LDB : 20 August 2018), Kerry Duncan Forbes and Kathryn Parks, 01 Feb 1969; from "Virginia, Marriage Records, 1700-1850," database and images, Ancestry (http://www.ancestry.com : 2012); citing , Falls Church, Virginia, United States, certificate 69008248, Virginia Department of Health, Richmond

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Hello,

I am checking in on behalf of the 1776 Project to announce the new project membership requirements and to verify that you are still interested in being a member of the project. All project members are being asked to join one of the project teams and also to make at least one project contribution every 6 months. We are also asking all project members to join the project's Google Group for project communications.

If you are interested in remaining with the Project, please reply to this comment or send me a message, request to join the Google Group, and let us know what team you would like to participate on.

We really appreciate your contributions on WikiTree, and thank you for all your hard work. If you have any questions, please ask. We would also love to hear any feedback you may have for the project.

If we don't hear back from you we will assume that you no longer wish to participate in the project and if so, you could rejoin at any time as is convenient for you.

We look forward to hearing from you soon!

SJ - 1776 Project Leader

posted by SJ Baty
Feeling ongoing appreciation for all you do here, Kathie. Thank you SO much!!!
posted by Jillaine Smith
Hey Kathie my name is Giles, I was curious if you had any insight into the Catoneras Montauk story? I think it’s fiction but I can’t seem to get the backing that I need to support my argument. You seemed to take my thesis on it, so I was curious what you think about it, judging from your expertise.

Thank you

posted by Giles Anon
Kathie, do I correctly understand that the NA project believes that Mohawk is the appropriate last name for Mohawk-5? There is still one more pending merge for her, with CANIACHKOO-3. It was last proposed (by me) 27 days ago, after a previous proposal had been rejected by the profile manager of the CANIACHKOO profile. I could adopt the CANIACHKOO profile and complete the merge, but I do not want to do that sort of thing if the profile manager who objected previously has not yet come to terms with the situation.

If this woman existed, there is no good reason to think her first name was Lysette or Lysbet. There is a record suggesting that Lysbet was the first name of the wife of the New Netherland settler that some of his descendants believe was married to a Mohawk woman.

There is also a pending merge for the father of this woman, approved by one party with default approval from the other: Mohawk-11 and Mohawk-6 . Does that merge look good to you?

posted by Ellen Smith
I doubt that this woman actually existed, but getting all of her profiles merged into one makes sense, and Mohawk is as likely a tribe as any other. Caniachkoo was probably a Mohawk, and she is supposedly his daughter. She should end up as Unknown Mohawk with a bio explaining that she was created as the wife of van Woggelum, but is unsourced, probably mythical, and detached from everyone. I don't see any reason not to just wait for the other merge to default and then clean up the final profile. Yes, I think Mohawk-11 and Mohawk-5 are meant to be the same man. Mohawk-7 should also have a first name of Unknown. There are no records of a wife and if she existed she wouldn't have had her husband's name.
posted by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
I completed the merges and revised the profile of the supposed daughter a bit -- mostly to document details that result from identifying her as the wife of Pieter van Woggelum. I will change the project account assignments once I lookup the codes for the NA project.
posted by Ellen Smith
Caniachkoo also needs to be PPP- Native American Project. His profile is also a mess with inappropriate/copyrighted images attached. I will see what actual facts I can find.
posted by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
Thanks! I will add Caniachkoo to the NA project.

Regarding images, recently I have encountered several images in WikiTree that are not the person who they were claimed to be. (Most of these seem to have been imported from Ancestry family trees or findagrave.) I have found tineye.com to be very helpful for identifying images that are copyright-protected or are not the person named.

FYI: The early historical documents related to New Netherland name a goodly number of individual Native Americans who interacted with Europeans. This is one of the reasons why some profiles like these were included in the New Netherland Settlers project. I am not very conversant with the historical sources (a rich source of genealogical material that deserves to be mined), but periodically I run across an historical account that names individuals who had engaged in negotiations with Europeans. Also, the Dutch church records include baptisms and marriages of indigenous people, some of whom are named in the records (others are simply called pros). And I am rather sure that some children born to European men and Native wives were absorbed into the white community -- the case I am most familiar with is Van_Slyck-29.

posted by Ellen Smith
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Thanks for your help..Cousin. The search is fun
You're my 10th cousin, once removed. Nice to meet you. 😊
posted by Emmy (Dunham) Frost
Who is Esther Cutewah Cornstalk? I found a gravestone for her online but it doesn't say where she's buried. It's definitely her name though although some say she didn't exist.
posted by Joe Morgan
From your friends at the Appreciation Team:

Congrats on the Super Star Badge!

posted by SJ Baty
Hello Kathie

Thank you for your editing of Doubleheads sister. Although I am somewhat confused about all the changes recently. You and I are connected and are 17th cousins. I am the 5th g. grandaughter of "Woman of Ani-Wadi Cherokee" and the 4th g. granddaughter of Ocuma Melton. John Melton (her husband) was my 4th g. grandfather. I had no idea of my Cherokee connection until I started researching my genealogy. Are you a project manager of this project? Cherie Sharp

posted by Cherie Sharp
Someone added a messed up duplicate to this line recently, but we have it all back in order now. I am a Cherokee citizen and onevof the coordinators of the Native Americans project.
posted by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
private message in your box. I think I want to help weed some Moy Toys. We have enough problems on this day 11/11/20 with alternate facts. I would just as soon not see people deciding they are now a Cherokee. Things are getting crazy !!!
posted by Christine Zentner
Hi Kathy,

Re my previous posting re Christian Jackson, nee Seale, I have tested your Dad, Joe?, and have found thye following match, via my Seale family:

GEDmatch® Autosomal One-to-one Comparison - V1.0 Software Version Sep 7 2020 14:29:43 Here is a link to a useful YouTube video on using the One to One DNA comparison tool. Comparing Kit PC2730307 (Stanley Stockenstrom) [MyHeritage] and T248947 (*JoeB) [Migration - F2 - F]

Segment threshold size will be adjusted dynamically between 200 and 400 SNPs Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 5.0 cM Mismatch-bunching Limit will be adjusted dynamically to 60 percent of the segment threshold size for any given segment.


Chr B37 Start Pos'n B37 End Pos'n Centimorgans (cM) SNPs 13 105,023,322 106,617,383 5.3 551

Largest segment = 5.3 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 5.3 cM (0.147 Pct) Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 7.7

1 shared segments found for this comparison.

613289 SNPs used for this comparison.

55.353 Pct SNPs are full identical

Comparison took 0.050 seconds. CPU time used: 0.023 cpu seconds.

Ver: Sep 7 2020 14:29:43

It is distant, at 7.7 generations away, which is to be expected.

If any other descendants of Christian Jackson could test, on Gedmatch, that may be helpful.

Thanks

Stanley Stockenstrom, South African

posted by Stanley Stockenstrom
Hello Kathie, You and I are 6th 1R cousins through our "Yount" line. Are you aware that both of us are the same relationship to president "Herbert Clark Hoover" as we are to each other ? The Yount family passed through North Carolina on their way to Kentucky where they married onto the Hoover family.
posted by David Goodwin
Yes, I have a little booklet somewhere explaining how we connect to Hoover. My great-grandmother was Susan Yount, her line of the family pretty much stayed put in Pennsylvania, although Susan and her brother Al moved to Washington, D.C. after the Civil War.
posted by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
Very nice to meet you.

Kathie and Carol Lynn are 13th cousins Kathie (Parks) Forbes and Carol Lynn Napora are both descendants of Robert White.

posted by Carol Lynn Napora
Nice to meet you, grand-niece of wife of 6th cousin 4x removed.
posted by Scott Hutchins
Thanks for responding to the Civil War Profiles g2g!
posted by Paula J
Thank you so very much for all of your help!
posted by LaQuita Holland
re: Rucker-1599 Thank you again. With the information from you I was able to find another record confirming. It is still a guess which one of James Rucker's children is the father of Dewitt at least there is more info on him.
posted by Nancyann Larsen
Congratulations Kathie
wonderful wikitreer
Kathie (Parks) Forbes is a Wonderful WikiTreer.
I can help you with your "Youngblood" ancestors; which you are seeking. It just so happens, this is one of my Sons ancestors as well (Through their Father). Thomas Youngblood abt 1679-1722 married Mary Miles abt 1687-1737. His Father is Abraham Jongbloedt (Youngblood) Jr. abt 1635–1681 & His Mother is Marijke Maria Barnarts (Barnards/Bernards/Barents) abt 1635-1681.

I hope this helps... - Terry

posted by [Living Ware]
ok then can you please look at this VANN comparison and adjust for the correct wives. Terrapin here is married to 2 different John Vanns. Thanks

https://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Special:MergePerson&user1_name=Vann-550&user2_name=Vann-151&action=compare

posted by N Gauthier
All these men named John Vann are confusing. There is currently a merge request for Vann-535 and Vann-151.

Could you please check it because if it is supposed to be for the "Oowana" guy, then it would be Vann-550 and Vann-151 that should be merged. Thanks

posted by N Gauthier
Can you please check if this Mary Terrapin and Mary Hughes-16740 are attached to the right VANN husbands ? Or if the husbands should be merged ? Thanks so much for your help :)
posted by N Gauthier
Thanks for trying to help with the VANNs :) We may not get much of a response because it looks like many are busy with the source-a-thon.
posted by N Gauthier
Hello cousin. Apparently we are one generation apart on our common lineage.
posted by Sarah (Shaw) Saenz
Thank you for your assistance with the Native American's I am working on. I may need further help down the line as some of the family's have members with more than 4 or 5 names in the last name, but I will see first if the whole family carries the name or just one person.
posted by Sarah (Shaw) Saenz
My apologies. Let me know if you want me to merge profiles or anything like that.
posted by Zachary Jon Smith
Re: John Owens

Thanks for pointing out my error, Kathie. I got John Sr. and John Jr. mixed up a bit.

posted by Saundra Stewart

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