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Elizabeth (Unknown) Spooner (abt. 1625 - 1648)

Elizabeth Spooner formerly [surname unknown] aka Partridge [uncertain]
Born about in Englandmap [uncertain]
Daughter of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Wife of — married before 1646 in Plymouth, Plymouth Colonymap
Descendants descendants
Mother of
Died at about age 23 in Plymouth, Plymouth Colonymap
Profile last modified | Created 12 Mar 2015
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Elizabeth (Unknown) Spooner migrated to New England during the Puritan Great Migration (1621-1640).
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Biography

Elizabeth _______ was born about 1625 (assuming she was 20 at her estimated date of marriage). Her specific origins and parents are unknown, although there is one secondary source that states her last name at birth was Partridge. (See Research Notes)

She married William Spooner by about 1646.[1].

They had the following child:

She died April 28, 1648 in Plymouth.[3][4]

Research Notes

Disputed Parents: See the 2015 G2G, Is there any evidence for the parents of Elizabeth Partridge?

The only secondary source located which provides reasoning for Elizabeth Partridge's surname is Records of William Spooner, which states that her name was recalled by a relative in a later century[5]. Her last name appears to be Partridge.[6] There is no evidence to support the supposition that she was a daughter of John Partridge and Jane Hogg. (See her G2G thread for details.)[7]

Bristol County, Massachusetts. According to Wikipedia, Bristol County, Massachusetts was founded 2 June 1685, from parts of Plymouth County.

Sources

  1. Spooner, Page 18
  2. Spooner, Page 24
  3. Spooner, Page 24
  4. A merged profile had her death as 28 Apr 1647/8, Dartmouth, Plymouth Colony (now Bristol County, Massachusetts).
  5. Spooner, Thomas. Records of William Spooner: Of Plymouth, Mass., and His Descendants. V. 1. Cincinnati: Press of F.W. Freeman, 1883. Print. Page 24.
  6. Torrey, Clarence A, and Elizabeth P. Bentley. New England Marriages Prior to 1700. Baltimore, Md: Genealogical Pub. Co, 1985. Print. Page 697.
  7. Other unsubstantiated data which have been removed/replaced with that from sources which have been located:
    • born in Navestock, Essex, England
    • birth date of 1622




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I have noted the secondary evidence from Spooner (refs. 1, 5, 6, 7) for Elizabeth's surname to be "Partridge", but no references attached support the surname "Patridge". Within England, "Patridge" is an extremely rare mispelling of the surname "Partridge"; earlier spellings of "Partriche" and "Partrich" are found, also later mispellings of "Partridge" such as "Partrig", "Partidge", "Partrigd" etc. occur before literacy became widespread. The occurence of "Patridge" in England is much later than the time of the Puritan Migration, and originates primarily to records from a single church in Gloucestershire, related to one branch of the so-called "Wishanger Partridges". The variation "Patridge" also developed independantly within the American colonies, later the USA, but is not seen amongst the original PGM migrants from England.

Can I therefore recommend that we correct Elizabeth's LNAB from "Patridge" to "Partridge", for which at least we have some cited reference sources?

posted on Patridge-109 (merged) by Stewart Partridge
Based on the comments below, I think that changing the LNAB to Unknown. Sources which provide the name Partridge can always remain in the Research Notes or Biography.
posted on Patridge-109 (merged) by M Cole
Is there approval from PGM for renaming her Elizabeth Unknown? If so, I would be happy to make the change. LMK.
posted on Patridge-109 (merged) by Daphne Maddox
Thank you, Daphne,

I would prefer to see her as Elizabeth Unknown.

Between your comment and our G2G, believe we can proceed.

Personally, I'd suggest we add Partridge as an "other last name." -- Gene

posted on Patridge-109 (merged) by GeneJ X
Well, I thought I could change it, but apparently I can't, despite being a manager -- I guess because it is PPP'ed.
posted on Patridge-109 (merged) by Daphne Maddox
Using this as a work space for some quick research notes.--Gene

Nathaniel B. Shurtleff, ed., Records of the colony of New Plymouth, in New England, 12 vols. (Boston : Press of W. White, 1855-61), 8:5 (1648. Plym Register of Mariages & Burialls); digital images, Hathi Trust, "Elizabeth Spooner, the wife of William Spooner, died the twenty eight of April [1648]."

Shurtleff notes that the first book of birth, marriages and burial records is lost, and early pages of those extant are tattered. John Spooners birth notice did not appear in the Plymouth registers there for 1647 or 1648--might this suggest that, assuming John Spooner was Elizabeth's son, he was born prior to 1647?

William Spooner (___-1684) entries, New England Marriages Prior to 1700, 3 vols. (Boston, Mass.: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2015), 2:1424 (Spooner); database and digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors.

  • Spooner, William (____-1684) & 1/wf Elizabeth [Partridge] (____-1648); by 1648; Plymouth, works consulted as "Reg. 23:408, 57:32; MD 15:27; Hardwick 500; Spooner (1871) 24; Peckham 216; Noyes-Gilman 90; Crapo 201; Williams (,2) 57; Newton (,4) 275." See AmericanAncestors, see also Sources-Torrey.
  • Reg. 23:408, Thomas Spooner, "The Spooner Family," The New England Historical and Genealogical Register 23 (1869):408-411 (to be continued); digital images, Hathi Trust.
  • Reg. 57:32, Stephen Farnum Peckham, "John Peckham of Newport, R. I., and some of his Descendants," The New England Historical and Genealogical Register 57 (1903):31-39 (to be continued), at 32; digital images, Hathi Trust.
  • MD 15:27. George Ernest Bowman, "Plymouth Colony Vital Records," The Mayflower Descendant 15 (1913): 25-29 (part of a continuing series) at 27; digital images, Hathi Trust.
  • Harwick 500. Lucious P. Paige, History of Hardwick, Mass. with a Genealogical Register (Boston: Houghton Mifflin, 1883), 500 (Spooner); digital images, InternetArchive.
  • Spooner (1871) 24. Thomas Spooner, Memorial of William Spooner, 1637 ... (Publisher Cincinnati : R. Clarke & Co., 1871), 24; digital images, InternetArchive, note prior to digitized published pages indicates that, "The manuscript of the second volume of the Spooner Memorial is in possession of the author's widow ... (1898)." Presumably this should be reference to the later source, 1883--see, Thomas Spooner, Records of William Spooner of Plymouth, Mass., and His Descendants (Cincinnati [Press of F. W. Freeman], 1883), 24; digital image, Hathi Trust, or InternetArchive; catalog entry at Hathi Trust has, "This work is intended to supplement and complete the author's "Memorial of William Spooner, 1637," issued in 1871." At 24--25n, is footnote regarding Elizabeth's surname Partridge.
  • Peckham 216. Stephen Farnum Peckham, Peckham Genealogy: The English Ancestors and American Descendants of John Peckham of Newport, R.I., 1630 (New York: Nat. Hist., [1922])
  • Noyes-Gilman 90. Charles Phelps Noyes, Being a series of sketches, with a chart of the ancestors of Charles Phelps Noyes and Emily H. (Gilman) Noyes, his wife (New York: Gilliss Press, 1907), see Noyes-Gilman Ancestry
  • Crapo 201. Henry Howland Crapo, Certain Comeoverers, 2 vols. (New Bedford, Mass.: E. Anthony & Sons, 1912), 1:197-204 (Ch. IX, William Spooner), at 201; digital images, Hathi Trust.
  • Williams (,2) 57. Gleason Leonard Archer, Ancestors and Descendants of Joshua Williams (Boston: Wright and Potter, 1927).
  • Newton (,4) 275. Ermina F. (Newton) Leonard, Newton Genealogy: Genealogical, Biographical, Historical; Being a Record of the Descendants of Richard Newton of Marl-borough, Mass., 1638, with Genealogies of Families Descended from the Immigrants (DePere, Wis.: B. A. Leonard, 1915)
  • Spooner, William (____-1684) & 2/wf Hannah Pratt; 18 Mar 1651, 1641/2; Plymouth/Dartmouth, works consulted as "Reg. 9:314, 23:408; MD 16:238; Spooner (1871) 25; Crapo 202, 249, 854; Shurtleff; Sinnott 216; Williams (,2) 57; LBDF&P 4:159." See AmericanAncestors, see also Sources-Torrey.
posted on Patridge-109 (merged) by GeneJ X
edited by GeneJ X
Why was her name changed to Patridge? Torrey has her as Partridge.
posted on Patridge-109 (merged) by Sherrye (Luther) Woodworth
The "Disputed Parents" section explains the Patridge spelling.
posted on Patridge-109 (merged) by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
There is only one source for her name. That source says "The first wife of William Spooner was Elizabeth Partridge." But then in a footnote to that statement says, "The fact that her surname was Patridge is learned from..." I don't see how you can really favor one spelling over the other, though of the two I would go with Partridge as it says in the main text (Patridge almost looks like a typo).

The real question is, why wasn't she renamed Elizabeth Unknown? The hearsay of a distant cousin (well second cousin once removed I think), in a book written 50 years after the death of an informant giving information on someone who died almost 200 years before his own death, is not good enough to establish a LNAB.

posted on Patridge-109 (merged) by Joe Cochoit
Thumbs up. She should be Elizabeth Unknown. Ditto, that is seems more a typo.--Gene
posted on Patridge-109 (merged) by GeneJ X
Believe we can safely conclude, as Joe surmised, "Patridge" was. typo. Have commented on G2G.
posted on Patridge-109 (merged) by GeneJ X
Partridge was merged away, quite intentionally it seems (and unfortunately, IMO).--Gene
posted on Patridge-109 (merged) by GeneJ X
edited by GeneJ X
Patridge-109 and Partridge-1046 appear to represent the same person because: Same dates of death, same county of death
posted on Partridge-1046 (merged) by Miguel Kelley
Removed the recently added (unsourced) father Partridge-3123
posted on Patridge-109 (merged) by Anne B
Partridge-40 and Patridge-109 appear to represent the same person because: Hi Vic,

In the course of this thread: http://www.wikitree.com/g2g/130837/is-there-any-evidence-for-the-parents-of-elizabeth-partridge ...

... it was noticed that Elizabeth's name was misspelled as Partridge. By merging Partridge-40 into Patridge-109 we can fix her spelling. I created Patridge-109 as a virtual copy of Partridge-40, except for the name...

Do you mind executing the merge into Patridge-109?

Thanks! Daphne

posted on Patridge-109 (merged) by Daphne Maddox

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