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Thomas Poindexter Sr. (abt. 1667 - abt. 1707)

Thomas Poindexter Sr.
Born about in St Peters, New Kent, Virginiamap
Ancestors ancestors
Husband of — married 1695 in Middle Plantation, New Kent County, Virginiamap
Descendants descendants
Died about at about age 40 in New Kent, Virginiamap
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Biography

Note

Note: This Note appears to have been added by Kay Haden.
There is no definite proof for Thomas being the son of George Poindexter. He is sometimes claimed to be son of George II. Circumstantial evidence to the contrary exists and I cannot in good conscience place him as a son of George II. His first three daughters were baptized at St. Peter's; Susanna some 10 years before two of the children of George Poindexter II. Other factors indicate he was some older than usually cited.
I believe many of the "guesstimates" of the ages of the early Poindexters have clouded the research on the family. I also believe it is quite possible that the first George had more than one wife and children by each. Since Susanna has never been truly identified, she could have been a younger second wife. The second George also seems to have married quite late and, if so, Thomas could have been from an earlier marriage of the second George.
John Poindexter Landers, POINGDESTRE-POINDEXTER: A NORMAN FAMILY THROUGH THE AGES 1250-1977, believed that Thomas was a grandson of the immigrant George and not a son. That Thomas was a son of the second George. The Poindexter Association has chosen to accept his theory as the correct lineage since they have been unable to dispute his conclusions. Other errors made by Landers make me highly skeptical concerning his conclusions. It is my opinion that Thomas was a bit too old to have been a grandson of George for the reasons cited above and following, but again the reasoning is based somewhat on inconclusive dates.
Thomas may have been born several years earlier than the usually cited date of 1675 [I have even seen a birth as late as 1685] which in turn may have led to the "grandson" premise. I think a year of 1675 was probably someone's long ago estimate. His wife's father gave her land in 1691, likely in anticipation of a pending marriage. This alone would suggest her husband was born some years before 1675. Since men often married at about age 25 in this time period, Thomas could have easily been born as early as the mid 1660's, or some 15 years earlier than cited. In fact, Frances H. Casstevens, genealogist of Yadkin Co NC and the wife of a Poindexter descendant, in her self-published book, The Poindexter Family, Ancestry & Descendants of Thomas Poindexter of Surry (Yadkin) County North Carolina, 1992, p. 9, suggests a date of birth as 1664 which I have chosen to use here.
Middle Plantation in VA was the location of Williamsburg.
The quit rent rolls for New Kent Co in 1702 show that Thomas Poindexter owned 1000 acres. This would be a lot of land for a man only 27 years old - not so much for a man near age 40.
There exists a remote possibility that Thomas was a nephew of George rather than a son. George's brother Jacob had a son Thomas baptized in 1654 in Jersey. However, this son Thomas was not part of the gift George made to the children of Jacob in 1675, when he visited the Isle of Jersey, so that Thomas may have died as a child. It's also possible that Thomas's gift was transport to America.
In a family that used the same given names over and over, it is noted that Thomas did not name a son either George or Jacob. His eldest son was John. It is not impossible that he was a son of the first George's son John - again the age of that John has been guesstimated and I have found at least one record indicating he may have been older than the guess. There is also a record that this John may have returned to England ca 1686 and nothing further seems to be known about him. Thomas & Sarah did name a daughter Susanna - the name of the first George's wife. Thomas did name children after himself and his wife Sarah. He also named a daughter Elizabeth - the name of the first George's mother.

Birth

Birth:
Date: ABT 1665
Place: New Kent Co., Middle Plantation, VA
Birth:
Date: ABT 1664
Place: Middle Plantation, New Kent County, Virginia[1][2][3]
Birth:
Date: 1675
Place: St Peters Parish, Louisa, Virginia, USA
Source: #S95
Note: #N4168
Note: #N4169
Note: #N4170
Birth
1665
New Kent Co., Virginia, USA
St Peters, Middle Plantation/Williamsburg

Death

1719
New Kent Co., Virginia, USA[4]
Assassquin Plantation
N46He died at Assassquin Plantation, which was his father-in-law's estate.
Death:
Date: BEF 1707
Place: New Kent County, Virginia[5][6]
Death:
Date: 1705
Place: New Kent, Middle Plantation, Virginia, USA

Marriage

Husband: Thomas Poindexter
Wife: Sarah Crawford
Marriage:
Date: 1695
Place: , New Kent, Virginia[7]
Source: #S95
Note: #N4170

Notables

Thomas is the great grandfather of US Senator and 2nd Governor of Mississippi George Lyttleton Poindexter.

Governor George Poindexter's wife, Agatha Ball Chinn is the first cousin three times removed of President George Washington.

Wikipedia

Thomas is the 2nd great grandfather of Garland Poindexter (1805–1875). The land on which the Monroe Train Station was built and most of the land that became the village of Monroe, Virginia, belonged to Garland, a farmer. The land passed to Garland's daughter. The Monroe Train Station, village of Monroe, and Monroe Post Office were named after Garland's son-in-law James Monroe Watts.

Thomas is the 7th great grandfather of Alan Goodwin "Dex" Poindexter, American naval officer and NASA astronaut. The Cygnus CRS OA-5's Cygnus space capsule was named S.S. Alan Poindexter in his honor. Alan is the son of John Marlan Poindexter, rear admiral US Navy, Commander of Destroyer Squadron 31, and National Security Advisor.

Sources

  1. Source: #S88 Page: The Third Generation: Thomas Poindexter p.94-96
  2. Source: #S98 Page: The Poindexter Family, pp.38-40
  3. Source: #S258 Page: Vol. IX, No. 2, p.22-24 [Apr 1989]
  4. Source: #S176 Page: pp147-150
  5. Source: #S88 Page: The Third Generation: Thomas Poindexter p.94-96
  6. Source: #S90 Page: Gedcom 15 Oct 1998
  7. Source: #S88 Page: The Third Generation: Thomas Poindexter p.94-96
  • Source S112 Title: Maida Whitten Repository: #R9
  • Repository R9 Name: mwhitten72[at]aol.com
  • Source S-2112823278 Title: POINDEXTER Family History Book, 4th Editon Author: Dorothy Knox Brown/Nealon Agee

Publication: Published November 1995 Note: Good Carol Wilkerson library

  • Source: S258 Title: Early-Poindexters-in-America Research Committee. Reports published in the PDA [Poindexter Descendants Assocation] Newsletter
  • Source: S369 Title: Frances H. Casstevens, The Poindexter Family: Ancestry and Descendants of Thomas Poindexter of Surry (Yadkin) County, North Carolina (Yadkinville, North Carolina: Self-published, looseleaf, 1992). Page: p.9
  • Source: S39 Title: Mary Jane Comstock, Compiler; Comstock-Haggard and Allied Families; (Chicago: Adams Press, 1973)
  • Source: S88 Title: John Poindexter Landers, STB, MA, Poingdestre-Poindexter: A Norman Family Through the Ages 1250-1977 (Robert Downs Poindexter; Printed by Von Boeckmann-Jones, Austin, TX [1975]) Repository: #R12 Call Number: CS71 .P7537 1975
  • Source: S90 Title: Doris Ann Butler Lucas, maintains online data base, Poindexter Descendants Association and PDA Newsletter, published quarterly. <http://www.poindexterfamily.org> Family GEDCOM online. (10334 Bellefontaine Rd, St. Louis, MO 63137) Note: Copies in my files Repository: #R4
  • Source: S98 Title: Mary Courtright Pettitt and Robert J. Pettitt, Thomas M. Pettitt's Family (Self Published. Highland CA: c1996. Out of print but available on LDS Microfilm #1750818, Item 13.) Note: 3037 Mountain Top Drive, Highland, CA 92346. Sent to me by Richard Elliott 11/98 Repository: #R1 Call Number: Copies [Poindexter/NC/101]
  • Source: S176 Title: Old New Kent County Repository: #R31
  • Source S100 Title: Ancestry Family Trees Publication: Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network. Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members. Repository: #R1
  • Source S95 Title: Family Data Collection - Individual Records Author: Edmund West, comp. Publication: Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2000. Repository: #R1
  • Repository: R31 Record ID Number: MH:R31 User ID: 8B328CE5-EECD-4E6D-B98A-BF22B38ADC21 Name: World Vital Records
  • Repository: R4 Name: Online
  • Repository: R12 Name: National Genealogical Society Address: Lending Library Note: The Lending Library of NGS was moved to St. Louis; the books may be obtained on Interlibrary Loan.
  • https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/113580676/

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I removed PPP, since the text indicates doubt about his parents. If this profile needs to be protected, please fill out the form found at https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:US_Southern_Colonies_Managed_Profile_Requests

Cheers, Liz

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Poindexter-271 and Poindexter-6 appear to represent the same person because: same
posted by Philip Smith

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