Samuel Pomeroy (abt. 1616 - abt. 1702)

Born about 1616 in Devon, England

Descendants

Died about 1702 at about age 86 in Pallice, County Cork, Ireland

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Note

DO NOT CONNECT LT. SAMUEL POMEROY OF PALLICE, IRELAND, TO EDWARD POMEROY OF BRIXHAM, DEVON, ENGLAND.

What follows is a discussion based upon a joint interest on the part of several members of the Pomeroy Family Association in locating the source of the published affiliation of Lieut. Samuel Pomeroy of Pallice Cork, (C 1616-1702) to the Edward Pomeroy Family of Brixham, Devon.

An examination of the records surrounding the family of Edward Pomeroy has revealed no child named Samuel. There is nothing to be found in the public domain to support this affiliation. The family of Edward Pomeroy of Brixham Devon did not have a child named Samuel. Why was a child named Samuel placed in a family with no record of having had one?

Was there a valid explanation?

Gary Boyd Roberts, “Royal Descents of 600 Immigrants,” 2008, lists Samuel Pomeroy of Pallice, Cork, as the son of Edward Pomeroy of Brixham, Devon. This looked promising. I (Alma LaFrance) was excited to learn his source was “Margaret D. Falley.”

Margaret D. Falley was a respected genealogist, author and authority on Irish heritage. Disappointingly, an examination of her references boiled down a “tentative affiliation line" in the papers of Sir William Betham, Ulster King of Arms, Dublin in the early 19th century.

Margaret D. Falley suggested that Sir Betham “likely”* based this tentative affiliation upon a reference Samuel “may" * have made in his will. She did not see the original will, which had been lost. The copy of the original will made by Betham did not reveal what he may have seen that might suggest the affiliation to Edward Pomeroy of Brixham, Devon. (*her word.)

After providing much detail, and references that one could check, in the final analysis the closest we can come to why Ms. Falley placed LT Samuel Pomeroy of Pallice in the Edward Pomeroy family of Brixham was based upon what turned out to be a faint hatched line.

"Sir William Betham, Ulster King of Arms, Dublin, had charted the name of “Samuel Pomeroy of the County of Cork, Ireland,” from the Prerogative Wills of Ireland, and other sources,” placing Samuel Pomeroy as the son of Edward Pomeroy and his wife (Wilmot) Periam, of Brixham, County Devon England (Genealogical Office, Dublin, G.O. MS. vol 205, p. 113). “

“This genealogical chart of the Pomeroy family of County Devon, beginning with the first English progenitor, Radulphus de la Pomerai, who came from Normandy with William the Conqueror, was continued through the main line of the Pomeroy family for nineteen generations, to and including Samuel Pomeroy.”

However, Falley went on to note that "the last generation relationship,” (i.e. Samuel as son of Edward Pomeroy of Brixham), “was placed there as a notation, in the same handwriting of Sir William Betham, apparently after the main chart was made up.”

“This is confirmed by the fact that page 116 of this MS. pedigree, which is a continuation of the main pedigree, made at the same time and therefore before the notation was added, shows the affiliation of Edward Pomeroy (brother of Valentine) to Sir Thomas Pomeroy (their father), and a tentative affiliation line links Samuel Pomeroy of Pallice, County Cork, as the son of this Edward."^[1]

(One has to follow the above sentence word for word.)

Falley observed that Sir William Betham's transcript of LT Samuel Pomeroy’s will did not include any clear evidence which may have suggested the tentative affiliation. She also observed that the faint affiliation line from the Samuel Pomeroy pedigree to the Pomeroy Family tree had been hatched out. We have to break it all down. This is the most definitive source we have. Margaret D. Falley suggesting the faint hatched out line of affiliation was "likely based upon a reference Samuel may have made in his will regarding property located in Brixham.

A hatched out line suggesting an affiliation. No Samuel in the Edward Pomeroy of Brixham Family.

FAMILY: POMEROY (DUHALLOW) Family name: Pomeroy (Duhallow) Estates: Pomeroy (Duhallow) - On 11 February 1798 Robert Hedges Eyre leased the lands of Claraghmore, barony of Duhallow, county Cork, to Richard Pomeroy for three lives renewable for ever. At the time of Griffith's Valuation Robert Pomeroy held land in the parish of Drishane, barony of Duhallow and occupied a house valued at £4.10 shillings, which he held from the Reverend Richard Davis. Claraghmore, comprised of 462 acres, was advertised for sale in June 1853. The Freeman's Journal reported that it was sold to Henry C. Justin for £1550. Nicholas Pomeroy of Claramore still owned 154 acres in county Cork in the 1870s and the representatives of Henry Pomeroy of Knockcahill owned 233 acres. A branch of the Pomeroy family was established at Pallas, parish of Roskeen, barony of Duhallow in the early 18th century, descended from Thomas Holmes Pomeroy. Samuel Pomroy was granted 520 acres at Palice, barony of Duhallow, in 1666.

The sources and references for the birth and parents of Lieut. Samuel Pomeroy of Pallice, County Cork, Ireland, found in numerous online family trees are from a compiled genealogy published in the mid 20th century. This is a genealogy which contains in part what must be considered fabrications.

In particular, there never was a Samuel Pomeroy in the family of Edward Pomeroy (d. 1656) and Wilmot Periman, (D. 1661). Placing Lieut. Samuel Pomeroy of Pallice, Ireland, as son of Edward Pomeroy and Wilmot, his wife, in Brixham, was a genealogical fabrication. The noted Irish genealogist, Margaret Falley, provided a lot of detail and sources, but in the end, could only SUGGEST that Sir Betham may have had a tentative, but hatched out line, between Lieut. Samuel Pomeroy and Edward Pomeroy of Brixham, based upon something he MAY have read in Samuel's will; which will she did not see.^[2]

Biography

Lt. Samuel Pomeroy was among the soldiers at the English Garrison at Cork and named as a revolter; ie. declaring for Parliment Of England Oct 16 1649. (Cromwell in Ireland: A History of Cromwell's Irish Campaign By Denis Murphy:) Cromwell's Irish Campaign began August 1649. and Ended May 1650.

Birth

1616

Devon, England^[3]

Death

1702

Pallice, Cork, Ireland^[3]

Sources

1. ↑ Pomeroy and Collateral Lines England-Ireland-America: ... George Pomeroy of PA. Pomeroy, Edwin Moore: 1958, pp. 34-37
2. ↑ https://sites.google.com/site/pomeroyconnections/samuel-pomeroy-of-pallice
3. ↑ ^{3.0 3.1} Online Database; Geni.com; https://www.geni.com/people/Samuel-Pomeroy-Liutenant

• Irish and Scotch Ancestral Research

Volume I Repositories and Records, by Margaret Dickson Falley, 1962

In 1955 Ms Falley wrote to Mr. Gerard Slevin, Chief Herald and Genealogical Officer, Dublin, asking that a general search of the records be made for anything pertaining to the Pomeroy family of County Cork, and allied families of Holmes, Deane, Towgood and Love. Mr. Slevin responded with a report that he had consulted the principal manuscript sources, and reported on the nature and extent of the information available in each record. The response was as follows:

POMEROY

GO MS 292-298 Betham Sketch Pedigrees Series 2, I, p. 549-50

GO MS 125 Heraldic Sketches p. 217

GO MS 103-111a-h Grants/Confirm.Arms Vol.107 p. 34 - to Colley

GO MS 223-54 Betham Will Abstracts 4/200, 9/216, 13/6, 16/395, 25/231, 31/8 of Sandridge, Devon

Loose Pedigrees

GO MS 205 Will Pedigrees Vol. 3 p. 112 of Devon, etc.

GO MS 205 Will Pedigrees Vol. 3 p. 117 of Pallice, Co. Cork

GO MS 205 Will Pedigrees Vol. 3 p. 116 Pomeroy – con’d P-36 Baron Harberton

GO MS 184 Lords Entries Vol. II p. 153, 155 Viscount Harberton

GO MS 185 Lords Entries Vol. III p. 312

GO MS 496-511 Box G H I

GO MS 187 Lords Entries Vol. V p. 123

Note: Ms. Falley traveled to Ireland to examine all of the listed records “and other deposits,” which were used to compile her 1958 publication: The History and Genealogy of the Pomeroy Family and Collateral Lines, Part one. Cuneo Eastern Press, U.S.A.

See also:

• Pomeroy and Collateral Lines England-Ireland-America: ... George Pomeroy of PA. Pomeroy, Edwin Moore; (1958) Page 111.
• Holdings of the Genealogical Office, Ireland: G.O. 243. Will Pedigrees, vol. 21, pp. 304, 305. Page 204, contains pedigrees based on the will of Samuel Pomeroy, of Pallice, Co, Cork, dated 1703, recording his marriage, children and grandchildren.

G.O. 289. Fisher Will Abstracts, p. 24. Abstract of the will of Samuel Pomeroy, proved 23 Jan. 1703.

G.O. 139, p. 117. Fisher Will Abstracts. Abstract of the will of Samuel Pomeroy, of Palles (Pallice), Co. Cork, proved 23 Jan. 1703/04. (Much fuller than in B.O. 289, p. 24, and includes details of lands.)

G.O. 552. Welply Will Abstracts. Abstract of the will of Thomas Holmes Pomeroy, of Palace (Pallice), Co Cork, proved 4th Oct. 1752.

• Estate Pomeroy (Duhallow)

Reference #21154: Encumbered Estates' Court Rentals (O'Brien), Pomeroy, 30 June 1853, Vol 21 (59), MRGS 39/010, (microfilm copy in NUIG)

Reference #25018: Exemplification of a recovery suffered by William Holmes Pomeroy of Parke, Co Cork, of the lands of Pallis, Gurteenneclomy and Coolekissrar, 4 Jun [1764]. 999/430

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