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"An erroneous assumption that Adrian Post’s father was Pieter Post seems to have begun with a speculative article in the New Jersey Genealogical Magazine of Jan. 1935 which the author himself, Mr. De Young, indicated was only a theory" [1]
Another proposed birthplace is The Hague, Netherlands. If his actual birthplace was Tillburg, the alternate parents listed in Pieter Post's biography are more likely. Source: Tilburg, Netherlands Births, 1811-1902 Surname Adriaen Marten Cornelis de Post Birth Date baptized 17 May 1620 Birth PlaceTilburg Father Marten Cornelis Corstiaen de Post Mother Anna Michiel Jan Meijnaerts Source Genealogical Collection
Elias Post, Willem Post and Lysbeth Post are not children of Adriaen Crijnen and Clara. The parents of these children were Lodowyck Post or Pos and Agnietie Bonen This is amply demonstrated by church records that show parents and sponsors for baptisms." Quick-803 03:15, 5 May 2014 (EDT)
His Life
The Dutch word for seagull is "pos" and this seems to have been the correct way of recording the surname of the Post family. Adriaen Crijnen (possibly Quirijnen) Post was most likely from The Hague, Netherlands. He and his wife Clara or Claartje Moockers, resided in Brazil in the West India Company's colony. Adriaen's daughter Maria (my 8th great-grandmother) was baptised in Recife Brazil in June 1649. By the time Brazil fell to the Portuguese in 1654, the family had left for the Netherlands. On 30 June 1650 the ship "New Netherland's Fortune" sailed, arriving in New Netherland on 19 December 1650.
Adriaen and his family were on Staten Island by 1655. Adriaen was a representative of Baron Hendrick van der Capellen, the owner of one-third of Staten Island. As the superintendent of a group of twenty people who were to farm Staten Island, Adriaen set up a colony which flourished.
In the summer of 1655 the Peach Tree War began over Hendrick Van Dyke's shooting of a Native woman stealing peaches from his trees in his orchard in Manhatten. As a result, the settlements on the lower Hudson River and around New York were destroyed by Iroquois attackers. On 15 Sept. 1655, the colony on Staten Island was burned to the ground by the Natives from Hackensack. Twenty-three people were killed and sixty-seven taken prisoner, among them Adrien, his wife, five children, and two servants. [Lorine's note: Although this statement about 5 children was taken from Christoph's book, I have not been able to find 5 children born to Adriaen and Clara before 1655. My research indicates Maria, Lysbet and possibly Adriaen were born pre 1655. Can any reader help me solve this puzzle of the two missing children who had to be born BEFORE 1655!!]
In Oct. 1655, Adriaen was released by the Hackensack chief Penneckeck to bargain with Petrus Stuyvessant for the release of prisoners. Adriaen made the journey between Manhattan and the Native headquarters at Paulus Hook, New Jersey several times before an agreement was reached. Fifty-six captives were released in exchange for powder, lead, guns, blankets and wampum. Among those freed were Adrian's wife and children.
Returning to Staten Island Adrian was ordered by Van der Capellan to gather survivors and erect a fort. Trying to keep the group fed, he found a few cattle that the Natives had overlooked roaming in the woods That winter Adrian and his family camped in the company of some soldiers in the burnt-out settlement. They butchered some of the cattle they had found and obtained milk from others. Stuyvessant recommended to Post that he and "his people" and cattle move to the stockade on Long Island but Adrian stayed. By Spring of 1656 Adrian was ill and unable to perform his duties, so Clara Moockers Post requested that someone else be appointed as van der Capellen's agent. In April of 1656 Clara petitioned Stuyvessant asking that the soldiers be allowed to stay, but Stuyvessant decided that since there were only 6 or 7 people on the island, a garrison was not required and they should all move to Long Island.20
Adrian regained his health and between 1657 and 1663 he had three children baptized at the Reformed Church. He was in the New Amsterdam courts often, being sued by creditors of Van Der Cappellen. He eventually left Staten Island and settled on the mainland of present-day Bergen, New Jersey. Fourteen original settlers of the Haqueaqununck [Acquackononk] Tract were
Hans DIEDERICKS, Garret GARRETSEN, Walling JACOBS, Elias MICHIELSEN, Hartman MICHIELSEN, Johannes MICHEALSEN, Adriaan POST, Urah TOMASEN, Cornelis ROELOFSEN, Symon JACOBS, John Hendrick SPEARE, Cornelis LUBBERS, Abraham BOOKEY, taking possession in 1683.
On 22 November, 1665, he took the oath of allegiance to the King as an ensign in the Bergen Burgher Guard. In May 1666 New Jersey governor Philip Carterett asked Adrian to be the interpreter at a meeting with the sachem Oraton to discuss a proposed land purchase. In May 1671 he served on a jury at an Admiralty court at Elizabethtown. On 7 June 1673 Adrian was elected one of Bergen's two representatives to the New Jersey General Assembly. In 1675 he was made a Lieutenant in the Bergen Militia. He died and was buried 18 Feb. 1677 in the village of Bergen NJ.
In March 28 of 1679 "Captahem PEETERS, the Native Sachem and Chief, in the prescence and by the aprobation of Memiseraen, Midnenas, Ghonnajea, Natives and Sachems of said Country, and in consideration of a certain parcel of Coates, Blanketts, kettles, Poweder, and other goodes" conveyed the Tract known by the name of Haquequenunk unto Hans DIEDERICKS, Garret GAREETSEN, Waling JACOBS and Hendrick GEORGE.
From "The Records of New Amsterdam From 1653 to 1674" edited by Berthold Fernow:
1660: Barent Cruytdop, pltf vs Capt. Post, deft. Pltf demands from deft. fl 29.7 in Zeawant. Deft. admits the debt and says he never spoke to him about it til now. The W. court order deft. to pay the pltf. in six weeks. 1660: Barent Cruytdop, arrestant and pltf vs Capt. Post, arrested and deft. Defts 2nd default. pltf sues out the arrest issued against the deft. The court declare the arrest valid. 1661: Capt. Post, pltf vs Severyn Louwerens, deft. Pltf. demands from deft. 41 guilders, 5 stivers according to a/c. Deft's wife coming forward produces an offset a/c and besides this some claim. Burgomasters and Schepens refer the matter in question to Thomas Hal and Frederick Lubbersen to hear parties, examine, and decide their affair and if possible reconcile them; if not to report their decision to the Court 1662: Tryntje van Hengelen, pltf vs Capt. Post deft. Deft. in default 1662: Tryntje van Hengelen, pltf vs Adriaen Post, deft. Pltf, pursuant to the decision of the arbitrators in the case, which she had before this W. Court against Post, places in the hands of the W. Court the judgement of the arbitrators for the sum of fl. 14:10. Deft. says the costs are not with it; was ordered also to pay the costs, which he obeys. Pltf demands from deft, in writing, the value of half an ox and cow, which he keeps from her, together with indemnity for damage to her grain according to valuation and estimate of the W. Court. Deft. demands copy of the demand. The W. Court order copy of the demand to be furnished to party thereunto to answer by the next Court day. Tuesday 14 March 1662: Tryntie Van Hengelen, pltf vs Adriaan Post, deft. Deft in default. Pltf requests that the deft. shall be ordered to answer the demand entered against him on 28 Feb. last. The W. Court orders Adriaan Post to answer on the next Court day the demand, which Tryntje van hengelen has instituted against him. 1662: Adriaan Post answers the demand of Tryntje van Hengelen. The W. Court order copy to be furnished to partyto reply thereunto at the next court day. 1662: Tryntje van Hengelen, pltf vs Adriaan Post deft. Deft. in default 1662: Tryntje van Hengelen, pltf vs Adriaan Post, deft. Whereas parties dealy their suit entered against each other in writing before this W. Court, they were ordered to prosecute the same.
Tuesday 11 Dec. 1663 in the City Hall: Schepen Jacob Kip, arrestant and pltf vs Adriaan Post, arrested and deft. Pltf demands from deft. a balance according to a/c of 15 guilders in corn, and further as attorney of Albert Cornelis Wantenaar, the sume of 8 and 40 guilders 14 and a half stivers in seawant, demanding that the attachment shall stand good until he sahll have paid him, with the interest of the demanded 15 guilders. Deft. admits the debt, promising to pay within the time of two or three weeks the 15 and 8 and 40 guilders and 14 and ahlf stivers. The W. Court condemn the deft. to satisfy and pay the pltf the sum demanded in his individual capacity and in his quality as attorney; declaring meanwhile the attachment so long valid.
Baptisms from the Doopregister Hollanders in Brazilie 1633-1654
Baptisms from the Reformed Dutch Church, NY, NY:
Children of Adriaen Post and Claartje Moockers are:
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Jan you found great records for them, so perhaps we are lucky and can find his correct parents also ?
Patty started a G2G for them and I changed fathers name to Crijn (might have been Quirijn or something) because it was Adriaens patronymic https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/678130/propose-change-of-parents-of-capt-adriaen-crijnen-post
Maybe the children can help, it looks like they might have used the Dutch naming tradition..this could mean (if we have all children listed? ) the first now unknown child perhaps was a son named Crijn (Quirijn) and named after his paternal grandfather, the second child named after paternal grandmother, the third after maternal grandmother the fourth after maternal grandfather (so Machteld Adriaens perhaps was the name of his grandmother), the other children named after aunts/uncles? Could be totally different of course but well it's a start and something we could try :)
Greets,
Bea :)
Church Record:
Baptism of daughter Maria, June 6, 1649, Recife, Brazil, confirming Adriaen's daughter Maria (my 8th great-grandmother) was baptised in Recife Brazil in June 1649
Wishing you all a lot of patience and time to clean up here. A lot of sourcing to do as I see only one source.
Understanding difficulties in topographic names as I do not know those details in the USA. That is why it is so great the DRP and the NNS work together.
But Tillberg and Harlengen are none existing places in The Netherlands. We might assume, as Philip stated, that Tillberg stands for Tilburg and Harlengen for Harlingen but not in South-Holland.
And if our country is meant please use "The Netherlands". "Holland" is referring to a part of the Netherlands in the west and it's borders changed during time, but nor Tilburg nor Harlingen were ever part of "Holland".
The Dutch word for seagull is "meeuw". A "pos" is a freshwater fish.
"Post" can stand for many things. Contemporary "Post" means mail. But it can also mean "keep watch" or "post". I do not know all meanings of "post" in those days. But I doubt a seagull was ever named pos.
Happy Treeing.
Kind regards from The Netherlands, A.
Conflicting father profiles: Post-552 and Post-91.
Conflicting mother profiles: Meijnaerts-1 and Van Vorhees-4.
Place of birth most probably not Tillberg, Holland, the Netherlands but if not the Hague, then Tilburg, North-Brabant, the Netherlands.
See: http://www.woorden-boek.nl/woord/post and http://www.woorden-boek.nl/woord/pos
I sincerely doubt if 'pos' is the old Dutch word for seagull ...