John Price MP (abt. 1501 - 1555)

Born about 1501 in (Porteham) Le Priory, Herefordshire, England

Descendants

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Biography

This profile is part of the Price Name Study.

John Price of "Porteham in the conty of Hereford.",^[1] of the same family as the Welsh poet Hywel ap Dafydd ap Ieuan ap Rhys Llwyd,^[2] was descended from Dafydd Gam, a renowned hero of Agincourt.^[3]

Eldest son of Rhys ap Gwilym ap Llywelyn ap Rhys Llwyd ab Adam, of Brecknock,^[2] by Gwenllian, daughter of Hywel Madoc, John was born in 1501/2^[3][4] at Porteham, Le Priory, Hereford, England.^{[citation needed]}

He was a servant of Cromwell by 1530. On 11 October 1534, he married Cromwell's niece, Joan, the daughter of "John Williams alias Cromwell of Southwark, Surr.",^[3] also called John Williamson.^[2] Joan's mother was Joan (Prior) Williams,^[3] widow of Philip Egerton^[1] and sister of Thomas Cromwell's wife Elizabeth.^[2] She was the daughter of John Prior, son of John Prior, Knt., and Ellen Mannering.^[1]

John Price and Joan married at her uncle Thomas's home in Islington, John "being at that time 32 and his bride 18. Their firstborn son was to be named Gregory after Cromwell’s eldest boy."^[3]

Children^[5]

sons

1. Gregory Price,^[3] born 6 August 1535^[6] married Mary, daughter of Humfrey Conysby "(he d. 1558.)"^[1]
2. Richard Price,^[3] married Elizabethe, daughter of William Wightman^[1]
3. unnamed Pryce^[7]
4. John Pryce^[1]
5. William Pryce^[1]
6. Bartlemewe Pryce^[1]

daughters

• Elizabeth Pryce (a married daughter named in John's 1555 will, but not a daughter by his wife Joan) ^[6]
• Elynor Pryce, married Thomas Walwin (d. 1580) of Longford^[1]
• Jone Pryce, born 14 November 1542,^[6] married Thomas Williams of Estradfyn,^[1] and "took as her second husband, Thomas Jones ('Twm Siôn Cati,' c. 1530 - 1609)"^[6]
• Mary Pryce, married Thomas Morgan of Lanver, co. Monmouthe.^[1]
• Ursula Pryce^[1]

John was sheriff of "Brec. 1542-3, Herefs. 1553-4".^[3]

Sir John Price, of Brecon and Hereford, was knighted 22 February 1547^[3] and was a Member of Parliament:

• Breconshire, 1547^[3]
• Hereford, 1553 October^[3]
• Ludlow, 1554 April^[3]
• Ludgershall, 1554 November^[3]

John Price, Knt., "made his will on 6 Oct. 1555... and died nine days later".^[3]

Research Notes

Patronymic: He does not appear to have used "ap Rhys", but at least one biography named him "John ap Price" as well as "ap Rhys".^[8]

Surname: A variety of spellings can be found, including Price,^[3][8] Prise,^[4] and Pryce.^[1]

Detached profiles: At one point, the profiles attached as parents of this John were his mother-in-law, Joan Prior (Prior-1638), and John Price (Price-2970) born 1478.

Sources

1. ↑ ^{1.00 1.01 1.02 1.03 1.04 1.05 1.06 1.07 1.08 1.09 1.10 1.11 1.12} Visitation of Herefordshire, Pedigree of Pryce of Porteham, page 58 (accessed 2 March 2022).
2. ↑ ^{2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3} Jones, E. D., (1959). PRICE (or PRYS), Sir JOHN (1502? - 1555), notary public, the king's principal registrar in causes ecclesiastical, and secretary of the Council in Wales and the Marches. Dictionary of Welsh Biography. Retrieved 2 Mar 2022, from https://biography.wales/article/s-PRIC-JOH-1502
3. ↑ ^{3.00 3.01 3.02 3.03 3.04 3.05 3.06 3.07 3.08 3.09 3.10 3.11 3.12 3.13 3.14} History of Parliament Online: Sir John Price (1501/2-1555), accessed 2 March 2022.
4. ↑ ^{4.0 4.1} Son of "Rhys ab Gwilym by Gwenllian, daughter of Howel Madoc" in wikizero: John Prise (accessed 2 March 2022), citing Wikipedia."
5. ↑ John had 11 or 12 children. His biography by Evan David Jones posted by the Dictionary of Welsh Biography (op.cit.) says "they" had 11 children but gives the names of only a few. The information in his biography posted by the History of Parliament Online could be interpreted as 11 children plus the illegitimate daughter: "6s. inc. Gregory and Richard† 5 da.; 1 da. illegit." (accessed 2 March 2022).
6. ↑ ^{6.0 6.1 6.2 6.3} John's biography posted by the History of Parliament Online names only Gregory and Richard, who were also MPs. His bigoraphy posted by the Dictionary of Welsh Biography (op.cit.) names Gregory and Richard as well as their daughter "Johan" and a daughter Elizabeth, saying of her: "He is believed to have been twice married, for in his will, 1555, he names a married daughter, Elizabeth."
   • History of Parliament Online: Gregory Price (1535-1600)
   • History of Parliament Online: Richard Price (c.1538-c.87)
7. ↑ The Visitation of Herefordshire lists only five sons, although his biography in the History of Parliament Online says he had six sons. Richard's biography in the History of Parliament Online says he is the "2nd or 3rd" son of John Price (see previous footnotes for links to those biographies).
8. ↑ ^{8.0 8.1} John Price. Note - This biography contains outdated information (e.g., death date of "1573?").

• Pedigree Recieved from Leominster part of the "OG Wynn" Papers - Part of the Jackson papers (RJCW ref#43).