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François Primeau
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The Primeaux family story begins not with a “Primeaux” at all. It begins with a Frenchman named François Primaut, a native of Normandy. He had been born there in 1667, and he set sail for the new world in 1683 or '84, when he was only 17 or 18 years old. We do not know whether his parents or any other family accompanied him. We do not know what motivated François to leave his native France for Canada, and we do not know how he made his passage or where he first made his home. We do know that the winter of 1683-84 in France had been one of the coldest in history. The sea froze along the coast, and there was extensive loss of beasts and wildlife, especially birds. It may be that his family could no longer support him, given the severe conditions, and he set out on his own for a land where he could establish himself without privation. François was married to Marguerite Madeleine Deneau, the daughter of Marin Deneau and Louise Therese Le Breuil, on October 19, 1687, in Notre Dame, La Prairie, Canada. François was recorded as a farmer in La Prairie on the Ile de St-Paul in 1694. François and Marguerite had nine children. The first-born, and our forebear, was Claude Primeau. The other children were: Marie Jeanne Primot October 15, 1692 – September 11, 1768; Pierre Primeau, September 29, 1694 – September 29, 1694; Pierre Primeau, September 8, 1696 – January 25, 1767; Catherine Primeau, November 30, 1698 – December 17-1760; Marie Primeau, December 14, 1702 – 1731; Paul Primeau, January 6, 1705 – February 22, 1778; Jacques Primeau, February 22, 1707 – September 28, 1707; and Joachim Primeau, April 1, 1711 – April 1776. It is curious that in one family the surname is spelled three different ways: Primaut, Primot, and Primeau. Which spelling is correct? The answer is that all three are correct, or, to put it another way, none of them is incorrect. The fact is that the uniformity of spelling that we have come to expect in the 21st century was simply non-existent in the 17th and early 18th centuries. Spelling often depended on the scrivener. Most people in those days, and in particular country people, were illiterate and could not correct a clerk’s spelling. They would sound out the name and the clerk would record it as best he could. All three spellings above produce the sound “preemo” in the French language. It may be that the recording clerk conformed the spelling to other similar names in the vicinity with which the clerk was familiar. That may explain why Marie Jeanne, who was born in Montréal proper, had her last name recorded differently from that of Claude, who was born in Châteauguay, outside of Montreal. Once the record-keeper recorded the name as “Primeau” instead of “Primaut,” that alteration would be carried forward and multiplied as local records increased in volume until the change became the new norm.[1] François died October 18, 1725, around the age of 58, in Montreal, Canada. He is buried in the cemetery of Notre-Dame, Ile de Montréal, Canada. [2] Marguerite, who survived François by 21 years, was buried March 13, 1746, at St-Joachim, Châteauguay, Canada.Name
- Name: Francois /Primeau/[3]
Event
- Type: Arrival
- Date: 1687
- Place: Quebec, Canada[4]
- The first mention found in records of François is his obtaining a farming lease from widow Lemoyne (Catherine Thierry dite Primot by name in fact) on 23 October 1687. (see notarial acts listing) He married 6 days later.
Marriage
- Husband: Francois Primeau
- Wife: Marguerite Marie Deneau
- Marriage:
- Date: 29 OCT 1687
- Place: La Prairie, Canada, Nouvelle-France[5]
- Child: Claude, bapt: 16 Jul 1690 La Prairie; married Angélique Babeu 14 Jun 1717 La Prairie
- Child: Marie Jeanne, b 15 Oct 1692 Montréal (Notre-Dame) (mother listed as Marie Dubreuil, godmother signed: Jeanne Adhémar); 17 when she married Étienne Chatouteau Massia (sic) 2 Mar 1710 Ste-Anne-de-Bellevue (she was resident of Châteauguay); remarried 28 Nov 1710 to Alexandre Boursier dit Lavigne 28 Dec 1710 in Ste-Anne-de-Bellevue (she is listed as 18 y/o widow resident of Lachine)
- Child: Pierre, bapt. 29 Sept 1694 Montréal (Notre-Dame)
- Child: Pierre, bapt. 8 Sept 1696 Montréal (Notre-Dame); married at 23 to Marie Couillard 10 Feb 1721 Sts-Anges-de-Lachine)
- Child: Barbe, born c 1697, married to Jacques Duranceau dit Brindamour before 1728, died at 50 in 1747.
- Child: Catherine, bapt. 30 Nov 1698 Montréal (Notre-Dame); married Jean Ride (Reid?) of Vernesse in Scotland (Inverness) 11 Feb 1714 La Prairie
- Child: Paul, b 2 Jan 1705 Châteauguay, bapt. 6 Jan Ste-Anne-de-Bellevue; married Marie Couillard by contract 6 Jan 1731 Montréal
- Child: Marie, est 1702; married to Jean Baptiste Deniau contract 27 Nov 1724
- Child: Jacques, died 28 Sept 1707 at 8 months, La Prairie
- Child: Joachim Primeau, b 8 Mar 1711 Châteauguay, bapt. 1 Apr 1711 Sts-Anges-de-Lachine; married Madeleine Benoist 18 Jan 1734 Longueuil[6]
Death
- 18 Oct 1725
- Hôtel-Dieu hospital of Montréal
- funeral: 19 Oct 1725
- Notre-Dame de Montréal
- Listed as 57 years old on the record[7]
Notes
Notarial Acts/Actes Notariaux
Bail à ferme par veuve Lemoyne à François Primot (23 octobre 1687). Vol I pg 277 Notaire Bénigne Basset[8] (note: Veuve Lemoyne is Catherine Thierry dite Primot by name) [9]
Compte arrêté portant obligation entre François Primot et Jean Magnan (6 février 1691). Vol V pg 136 Notaire Antoine Adhémar[8]
Bail à ferme d’une terre à la Prairie St-Lambert pour cinq années, par Jean Magnan à François Primot (4 octobre 1689). Vol IX pg 160 Notaire Claude Maugue[8]
Engagement d ’Alexis Thabaud fils de Pierre Thabaud à François Primot, pour un an (7 avril 1692). Vol IX pg 195 Notaire Claude Maugue[8]
Vente d ’une concession de soixante arpents en superficie en la seigneurie de Saint-Lambert, par François Primot et Marie Deno sa femme, à Antoine Pascaud, marchand de Ville-Marie (31 mai 1699). Vol II pg 204 Notaire Jean Baptiste Pottier [8]
Vente de Claude Caron à François Primot (10 août 1707). Vol VI pg 200 Notaire Antoine Adhémar[8]
Engagement de François Primot, sa femme et ses enfants aux Frères Hospitaliers (26 mars 1711). Vol VI pg 265 Notaire Antoine Adhémar[8]
Renonciation par Marie Deno, épouse de François Primot, à ses droits sur une concession à la Fourche en la Prairie de la Madeleine de 4 x 25 arpents, en faveur de Louise Dubreuil sa mère. (21 juillet 1710). Vol XXI pg 241 Notaire Guillaume Barette[8]
Bail à ferme par Jean Cailloud dit Baron et Marie Touchet sa femme à François Primo et à Marie Deno sa femme, d’une ferme de 6 arpents de front sur 25 arpents en profondeur tenant sur le devant à la rivière St-Claude. (7 août 1712). Vol XXI pg 246 Notaire Guillaume Barette[8]
Concession à titre de cens et rentes seig. d’une terre de 90 arpents à la rivière La Tortue, par les Jésuites à François Primot. (5 mai 1715). Vol XXI pg 254 Notaire Guillaume Barette[8]
Quittance par François Primot, à François Dupuis pour 44 livres, pour dernier paiement d’une obligation passée devant Me Antoine Adhémar le 13 février 1707. (18 novembre 1715). Vol XXI pg 255 Notaire Guillaume Barette[8]
Donation par Dame Marie Deno, veuve de François Primot, vivant habitant de Châteauguay, à Paul Primot l’un de ses enfants, de la terre paternelle en la seigneurie de Châteauguay sur la rivière du Loup de 3 x 25 arpents. (10 janvier 1729). Vol XXI pg 54 Notaire Joseph Charles Raimbault[8]
Cession par Marie Deniau de Chateauguay, veuve de François Primot, à ses enfants, d’une terre à Chateauguay d’un arpent et demi de front sur 25 arpents en profondeur. (24 mars 1736). Vol XXI pg 381 Notaire Guillaume Barette[8]
Relatives
François was found to be related of Charles Primeau, who was present at the wedding of François' son Joachim and cited as cousin of the groom, exact degree of cousinship not specified.[10]
Further research to be done
There is the possibility that he may have had familial ties to Catherine Thierry dite Primot. Catherine's parents died when she was young and she was raised by an uncle and aunt, the uncle being Antoine Primot, in France, and later she came to the colony with her adoptive parents. François received a farming lease in 1687 from her. Catherine also gave his son Paul a land concession in 1740.
Sources
- ↑ The First Generation: In the New World, full citation needed
- ↑ Burial record : "Québec, registres paroissiaux catholiques, 1621-1979," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9MB-FB67?cc=1321742&wc=HCFV-BZ9%3A16470801%2C23492102%2C29550001 : 16 July 2014), Montréal > Notre-Dame > Baptêmes, mariages, sépultures 1713-1733 > image 405 of 827; Archives Nationales du Quebec (National Archives of Quebec), Montreal.
- ↑ Source: #S-1909055074 Page: Place: Quebec, Canada; Year: 1687; Page Number: . Note: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=pili354&h=3633761&ti=0&indiv=try&gss=pt Note: Data: Text: Arrival date: 1687Arrival place: Quebec, Canada APID: 1,7486::3633761
- ↑ Source: #S-1909055074 Page: Place: Quebec, Canada; Year: 1687; Page Number: . Note: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=pili354&h=3633761&ti=0&indiv=try&gss=pt Note: Data: Text: Arrival date: 1687Arrival place: Quebec, Canada APID: 1,7486::3633761
- ↑ [1] marriage IGD
- ↑ Quebec, Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1997
- ↑ Funeral IGD
- ↑ 8.00 8.01 8.02 8.03 8.04 8.05 8.06 8.07 8.08 8.09 8.10 8.11 8.12 BAnQ Notarial acts index Inventaire des greffes des notaires du régime français, par Pierre Georges Roy et Antoine Roy; 27 Vol + index 1-8
- ↑ Link to original record : Bénigne Basset dit Deslauriers, Actes (9 815 pages), Nos 1801 à 2000, Cote : CN601,S17 Fonds Cour supérieure. District judiciaire de Montréal. Greffes de notaires - BAnQ Vieux-Montréal, p. 11-14
- ↑ Joachim marriage IGD
- Actes d'état civil et registres d'église du Québec (Collection Drouin), 1621 à 1997 - Gabriel Drouin, comp. Drouin Collection: Institut Généalogique Drouin IGD (membership) https://www.genealogiequebec.com
- BAnQ: Tanguay, Cyprien, Dictionnaire Généalogique des Familles Canadiennes depuis la fondation de la colonie jusqu'à nos jours; Montréal, 1887 (7 volumes) Vol 6 MER-ROB pg 450-452 (Genealogical Dictionary of Canadian Families from the Founding of the Colony to Our Time). Volume 6: pp.450-452:
Ancestry links: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/tree/21513706/family
- the Geni site of his descendants...
http://www.geni.com/people/Fran%C3%A7ois-Primeau/6000000008617203780
- the LDS rendition:
- Francois (Or Primot) PRIMEAU PRIMOT
- 1667 - 18 October 1725 (Ancestral File Number: 8BRV-PJ)
- see below for two spouses, here are the children:
- Claude PRIMEAU PRIMOT; birth: 16 July 1690; death: 3 May 1768
- Marie Jeanne PRIMEAU; birth: 15 October 1692; death: 28 September 1707
- Pierre PRIMEAU PRIMOT; birth: 29 September 1694; death:
- Pierre PRIMEAU PRIMOT; birth: 8 September 1696; death:
- Catherine PRIMEAU PRIMOT; birth: 30 November 1698; death: 17 Dec 1760
- Barbe PRIMEAU ; birth: 1700 ; burial: 20 May 1747
- Marie PRIMEAU PRIMOT ; birth: 14 December 1702 ; death:
- Paul Premeau Or PRIMEAU PRIMOT ; birth: 6 January 1705 ; death: 22 February 1778
- Jacques PRIMEAU PRIMOT ; birth: 22 February 1707 ; death: 28 September 1707
- Joachim PRIMAUX ; birth: 8 March 1711 ; burial: 24 April 1786
- Joseph PRIMEAU ; birth: about 1713 ; death:
- Francois (Or Primot) PRIMEAU PRIMOT ; birth: 1667 Of, , Normandie, France ; death: 18 October 1725 Hotel Dieu, Montreal, Ile De Montreal, Quebec
- more
- : spouse: Madeleine DENEAU ; birth: 16 February 1674 ; marriage: 19 October 1687 ; death: 1747
- : spouse: Therese Marie Dit Destaillis DENIAU ; birth: 15 February 1674 ; marriage: 19 October 1687 ; death:
- Additional Information for Francois (Or Primot) PRIMEAU PRIMOT
- Citing This Record: "Ancestral File," database, "FamilySearch" (http://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/MWY9-TLB : accessed 2014-01-05), entry for Francois (Or Primot) PRIMEAU PRIMOT.
Acknowledgements
- WikiTree profile Primeau-19 created through the import of Barcomb Allen.ged on Jun 21, 2011 by Steven Barcomb.
- Thank you to Denis Bouchard for creating Primeau-180 on 6 Sep 13.
- WikiTree profile Primeau-24 created through the import of Kunsch Family Tree-7.ged on Jul 31, 2011 by Randy Kunsch.
- Thanks to Jon Dee Wright for his contributions
- Thank you to Loren Fay for creating Primeau-191 on 29 Dec 13.
- WikiTree profile Primeau-37 created through the import of Kunsch Family Tree-7.ged on Jul 31, 2011 by Randy Kunsch.
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"France, Bretagne, registres paroissiaux et état-civil, 1521-1896," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QP97-SPHZ : 17 July 2019), François Primaut, 28 Apr 1665; citing Birth, Cesson-Sévigné, Rennes, Ille-et-Vilaine, Bretagne, France, Ille-et-Vilaine et Côtes-d'Armor, France.
J'ai rédigé un document en francais suite à mes recherches sur mes ancêtres Primeau que je voudrais partager avec la communauté, comment puis je le faire ?