Project: British Isles Royals and Aristocrats 742-1499

Categories: British Isles Royals and Aristocrats 742-1499 Project

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British Isles Royals & Aristocrats (742-1499)

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This project includes royals, aristocrats nobles, and gentry in England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales from the birth of Charlemagne in 742 until the end of the 15th century. It's a forum to improve WikiTree profiles of British Isles royalty, aristocrats and nobility and descendants. For European of later time periods, scroll down to page end.

Royals
Nobles
  • highest social class
  • generally held land or office in exchange for allegiance and services to a monarch or higher-ranking nobleman.
  • Wikipedia: Nobility
Aristocrats
Gentry
  • persons with elevated social status,
  • style: ladies and gentlemen,
  • no titles or coats of arms.
  • Wikipedia: Gentry

Why Pre-1700 Certification and Pre-1500 Certification?

  • Thousands of people connect with hundreds of thousands of royal and other aristocratic lineages.
  • Ancestors are massively common: Thousands of WikiTree members share them.
  • Work on profiles can be tricky, and requires a high degree both of genealogical knowledge, and familiarity with WikiTree procedures.

Take the Test and Apply for Certification

In an effort to maintain profile integrity, WikiTree has implemented certification. Take the Pre-1700 test here. This is required to:
  • Create new profiles for people born in 1600s or earlier.
  • Edit existing profiles of those born in 1600s or earlier.
If you have an interest in profiles in the pre-1500 period, you must apply for this certification. Wikitree is striving to maintain and improve these historically significant and medieval profiles. To receive the certification, you must have made contributions to pre-1700 or project-protected profiles that demonstrate a practical understanding of the principles behind our Honor Code and Pre-1700 Self-Certification, especially regarding sources and collaboration in high-conflict areas. You can apply for the pre-1500 certification here. This is required to:
  • Create new profiles for people born prior to 1500.
  • Edit existing profiles of those born prior to 1500.

Naming Standards

If you have a question with regard to what to enter where, ask before doing so ... by posting a question on the G2G forum in Special Projects, and be sure to use the EuroAristo tag. Also feel free to contact:

Join Google+ Community

Join the G+ community for the European Aristocrats project. We'd love to have you participate.
Members can communicate with each other through this Google+ Community]. This way we can easily share ideas.
Add yourself by clicking over to the group.
In the left column of the G+ Community you'll see an icon for "turn notifications on/off." Be sure it is set to "on" so that you get updates via e-mail.

Contact Info

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Project leaders: The leader of this project is Darlene Athey Hill with co-leader Katherine Patterson.

Full list of participants:

To join this project, please do the following:

  1. Answer our joining question on the G2G (https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/363090/would-you-like-to-help-with-european-aristocrat-profiles?) indicating your area of interest.
In an effort to maintain the integrity of profiles, WikiTree is going to require you first take and pass a certification test, which is available here.
This will be required for:
  • Creating a new profile for someone born in the 1600s or earlier.
  • Editing an existing profile of someone born in the 1600s or earlier.
If you have an interest in profiles in the pre-1500 period, you must apply for Pre-1500 certification. Wikitree is striving to maintain and improve these historically significant and medieval profiles. To receive the certification, you must have made contributions to pre-1700 or project-protected profiles that demonstrate a practical understanding of the principles behind our Honor Code and Pre-1700 Self-Certification, especially regarding sources and collaboration in high-conflict areas. You can find a link to read about and apply for the pre-1500 certification here. This is required to:
  • Create new profiles for people born prior to 1500.
  • Edit existing profiles of those born prior to 1500.

Once you receive certification, do the following:

  • Add euroaristo to your list of followed tags. That way you'll see all of our discussions in your G2G Feed.
G2G is used for discussions, but feel free to check out archived discussions at this Google Group for reference.
  • Ask Kathy to award you the European Aristocrat Project Member badge.
  • Add your name to the list here, along with a note about what you're currently working on for this project. Be sure to date it.
  • Include this tag to your profile's Biography:
[[Category:European Aristocrats Project]]

House Assignments

You can find a list of managers of the various houses (such as House of Neville, House of Plantagenet), as well as houses available for adoption here.

Profile Improvement Checklist

At the top of the profile page text box, add the template for the project which you can find here


Add sources. Many sources listed on the Magna Carta project resource page are excellent sources for medieval profiles. See this list of resources here.


Create and/or edit the Biography with footnotes, using either narrative or timeline styles.


Add Coat of arms image if available; check box "set as primary photo"; add source and copyright in the Comment Box below the image (add the blazon if you have it).


Add images of castles, effigy, etc. as appropriate, being sure to include source and copyright information in the Comment box under the image.


Tips on labeling images:

  • Edit > scroll down until you see title in edit box > delete or replace 'image 1' 'image 2' etc. > scroll to page end > save.
  • Save comment box first, then "save as thumbnail" if it is a coat of arms, and last save the image title.

Profile Maintenance and LNAB Selection

All users are encouraged to first read WikiTree's guidelines on Name Fields for European Aristocrats. Then read Name Fields.

Last Name at Birth

LNAB: Last Name At Birth should be one word
EuroAristo project members decided that Fitz- names should be written with mid-caps, that is, a capital letter for the father's name. For example, write FitzAlan, FitzGeoffrey, FitzGerald, etc. This is the same pattern as used in names with Mac-: MacMurray, MacDonald, etc. Do not include a space. As Wikitree users encounter these names, we request that they change the capitalization for consistency.
For the LNABs that have been established, see Proper Spelling of LNABs.
For others, ask on the G2G forum, remembering to tag your post with euroaristo.

Prefixes, Suffixes, Titles

1.PREFIX FIELD:Use for title like 'Sir' or 'Reverend'. ( A man who was knighted was called Sir.) DO NOT USE for titles like 'Earl of Angus'. Don't put King, Duke, Earl here. Titles belong in the 'OTHER NICKNAMES' field.
2.PROPER FIRST NAME: This is first name at birth, in the person’s native language. It should be one word only.
3.PREFERRED NAME: This is the name of the person as they were generally known/called/referred to. It would also have a numeral (i.e. I, II, III) with it if they are known as the 1st, 2nd, 3rd. Example: Henry III of England - his proper first name is Henry, preferred name is Henry III.
4.OTHER NICKNAMES: This is where their title belongs (i.e. ‘King of England’, ‘Queen of Scots’, ‘Lord of Dunmow’, etc.). Titles do not include numbers (i.e. ‘Earl of Arundel’, not ‘3rd Earl of Arundel’). This is also where any actual nicknames (i.e. ‘The Younger’, ‘The Poor’, ‘Talvas’, ‘The Loyal’, ‘Copped Hat’, etc.) and translations such as Eléonore, Leonor, Eleanor belong. Do not put these in quotations. Separate multiple names with a comma.
5.MIDDLE NAME:Very few people in the middle ages had a middle name, so this field tends to be blank. However, this may be used for a patronymic, if this is not the LNAB.
6.LAST NAME AT BIRTH: This is the name they had (or would have been known by) when they were born. In most cases, it is one word. Exceptions to this are ‘de Vere’ and families that had ‘St’ as part of their name (such as St John, St Aubyn, St Hilary, St Liz, St Pol, St Sauveur). See below.
7.PREFIXES IN LAST NAME AT BIRTH FIELD (LNAB):The common ‘de’, ‘du’, ‘le’, ‘la’, ‘de la’, ‘von’, ‘van’ before a surname does not go in the LNAB field; it goes with the surname in the Current Last Name field while the surname, ONE word, goes in the LNAB.
Fitz- names should be written with mid-caps, that is, a capital letter for the father's name. For example, write FitzAlan, FitzGeoffrey, FitzGerald, etc. This is the same pattern as used in names with Mac-: MacMurray, MacDonald, etc. Do not include a space.
EXCEPTION: Prefixes that are the last name at birth (LNAB) like St John. "St" stays with surname. "St John" goes in LNAB field. St is not dropped or separated out in prefix field. Do NOT use a period.
7.a.NO "de" IN LNAB:The common "de" before a surname does NOT go in LNAB field. Put with surname in CURRENT LAST NAME field. Surname is ONE word in LNAB. Examples:
LNAB: "Villefort"
Current Last Name: "de Villefort"
EXCEPTION: de Vere. This family has both words in LNAB field.
8.CURRENT LAST NAME: For people who are known by last names that are commonly prefaced by prepositions ("de," "d'," "von," "van," "of," etc.) or articles ("the," "le," etc.), the Current Last Name should include that prefacing preposition or article. For nobility, the country, dukedom, etc., may be used here, with a preposition, as for example, of England or de León.
Women generally take their husband’s CLN, although not a patronymic. The last name at death is the name used here.
9.OTHER LAST NAME: This should include alternate last names and last name variations, separated by commas. Prior married names for women occur here. This is not the place for titles (those go in the Nickname field).
10.SUFFIX: These were not generally used in the Middle Ages. Modern usage includes Jr, Sr, III, IV, and so on. For kings and queens the number should go as part of the Preferred First Name instead of in the Suffix. For example, VI is not an appropriate Suffix for King George VI.
11.PUNCTUATION: NO period after prefix likes Rev or Capt or St
12.NO leeway on prefix and suffix rules.These fields cannot be used for anything else.
13.SUFFIXES IN LAST NAME: Jr, Sr, III (modern), and KG or KB (medieval) in suffix field only. NOTHING else.
14.TITLES:No titles in prefix or suffix fields. You can list their primary one in the OTHER NICKNAMES field. List their titles in their biography.
OTHER NICKNAMES: Put what people were called (King of England, Duc d'Angoulême, Lord Mountbatten, the Fat) in OTHER NICKNAMES field.
15.ALTERNATE SPELLING OF LAST NAME: alternate spellings go in "Other Last Names"
16.PATRONYMICS: Patronymics are middle names, (unless nothing else is available)
17. WELSH NAMES: Welsh names are a muddle. Write a question on the G2G forum and get input from other before proceeding.
18. NATIVE LANGUAGE:Use person' native language within reason. Wikipedia is good for translations.
19.NUMERALS: These are part of the preferred name (i.e. Richard III, Henry VIII).


Numerals in a Name

If there is a numeral, such as Henry III of England, his name at birth is Henry, preferred name is Henry III, Last Name At Birth is Plantagenet, Current Last Name is of England.

Merging Profiles

When merging always select the lowest correct LNAB. To understand the importance of this please see the page on project protection and the Supervisor page on project protecting and merging.

Templates for Profiles

The template below should be added to profiles that fall within the project by adding {{British Isles 742-1499}} to the biography of the profile.

European Aristocracy
... ... ... is a member of royalty, nobility or aristocracy in the British Isles.
Join: British Isles Royals and Aristocrats 742-1499 Project
Discuss: EUROARISTO

Research Guide

There are a few things we suggest you do to participate in the project on WikiTree.

  • If you do not already have a project badge, which shows everyone you are part of the EuroAristo Project on WikiTree, contact Kathy and let her know you'd like to be a part of the project.
  • Once a member, add the EuroAristo tag to your following feed to see G2G discussions, updates, and opportunities to help out as other members pass lines they cannot pursue on to others.
  • Visit our Google+ Community for weekly updates on progress, general news, and to chat with other members.
  • If a profile strikes your fancy, but it's private, send a message to Kathy or the manager (most likely a project member), and we can add you to work on it.
  • Keep all profiles as either Open - so anyone can jump in and help - or if the person is still alive (or might be) Private with Public Biography and Tree, so it can be easily referenced for others working on the same tree.
  • If you have a question or need help, please post a new question in G2G. Be sure to tag it with [euroaristo] so the project members see it and we can step in to help. Use whatever surname is appropriate, as well, as many community members at large can help, too.
  • This project is very important. Good research is very important. Give what time you can, even if it is only an hour or two a week. That little bit can accomplish a lot.

THANK YOU for volunteering. This project would be impossible without the incredible volunteers here at WikiTree!

If you come across fantastic profiles we can feature (or if you fix/improve on one) in the Profile of the Week or submit to the This Day in History/WikiPick of the Day feature on the blog, put them under the appropriate heading on this page.

Goals/Priorities

Correct LNAB (last name at birth) field.
  • A large number of existing and new profiles have wrong information in the LNAB field. Identify and fix these profiles. (if you're a profile manager or notice it on an orphaned profile, you can make these changes).
  • If unable to fix LNAB, bring profile to the attention of a leader with the ability to correct LNAB.
  • Profiles include those with a prefix or preposition -- de, le, of, l' in the LNAB
Example: le Bigod in LNAB field needs to be changed to Bigod. Change Current Last Name (CLN) field changed to le Bigod. There are A LOT of profiles needing this attention.


Merge duplicates.
  • Back when WikiTree started, all GEDCOMs were allowed to be uploaded, creating a huge number of duplicate profiles. Duplicate profiles continue to be created, and we constantly need to be on the lookout for duplicates. Once a merge is completed, DON’T STOP THERE. Edit the merged profile and clean up the Biography/text section. Delete repetitive text.


Citations
  • Have all profiles as well-sourced as possible and conforming to the WikiTree Style Standards.


Family Members
  • Include correct parents, spouse(s), and children.


Categories
  • Have appropriate categories listed in all Biography areas.

Profile Management Information

Profiles are managed by a small number of managers (frequently just one), as assigned by the user group. Management of 300+ year old profiles is treated differently than that of more modern profiles. For more information on this click here. Please understand that these profiles were created by many users and collaborated on by the group. Profile managers are not responsible for accuracy or content (though of course we try to improve it when we can).

Other European Royalty and Aristocracy Projects

Several WikiTree projects exist for European nobility, royalty and aristocracy:

Before 742AD:
European nobles and aristocrats outside British Isles (742 to 1499)
British Isles nobles and aristocrats (1500 - present)
Cymru Welsh Royals and Aristocrats (742-1535)
European nobles and aristocrats outside British Isles (1500 - present)
Magna Carta Barons and 'Illustrious Men' named in the Preamble

Useful Links


The 5 Peerages of England and the U.K.:

England
Scotland
Ireland
Great Britain
United Kingdom


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