Project: European Royals and Aristocrats 742-1499

Categories: European Royals and Aristocrats 742-1499 Project

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House Assignments
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European Royals and Aristocrats (Excluding the British Isles) 742-1499

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(NOTE: This project does not include those profiles from the British Isles as they are in a separate project, found here)

This project encompasses people that were royals, aristocrats nobles, and gentry in the period from the birth of Charlemagne through the late middle ages (15th century). It excludes the people of England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales (see separate project here). See the list and links at bottom of page for projects that cover other periods.

This Project is a forum for WikiTreers interested in improving the profiles of the European royalty, aristocrats and nobility and their descendants.

It's important to remember that these ancestors are massively common--that is, thousands of WikiTree members share them; working on their profiles can be tricky and requires a high degree both of genealogical knowledge and of familiarity with WikiTree procedures. This is the era when thousands of people connect with hundreds of thousands of royal and other aristocratic lineages.

In an effort to maintain the integrity of profiles, WikiTree is going to require you first take and pass a pre-1700 certification test, which is available here.

This will be required for:

  • Creating a new profile for someone born in the 1600s or earlier.
  • Editing an existing profile of someone born in the 1600s or earlier.
If you have an interest in profiles in the pre-1500 period, you must apply for Pre-1500 certification. Wikitree is striving to maintain and improve these historically significant and medieval profiles. To receive the certification, you must have made contributions to pre-1700 or project-protected profiles that demonstrate a practical understanding of the principles behind our Honor Code and Pre-1700 Self-Certification, especially regarding sources and collaboration in high-conflict areas. You can find a link to read about and apply for the pre-1500 certification here. This is required to:
  • Create new profiles for people born prior to 1500.
  • Edit existing profiles of those born prior to 1500.

For the naming standards, see Name Fields for European Aristocrats as well as the section located further down on this page. All users are encouraged to also read WikiTree's guidelines on Name Fields. If you have a question with regard to what to enter where, ask before doing by posting a question on the G2G forum in Special Projects, and be sure to use the EuroAristo tag. You also should feel free to contact Kathy and/or Darlene.

Join the Google+ Community

We have recently started a community on Google + for the European Aristocrats project. We'd love to have you join and participate in the community. Since it's new and just getting started, we need some enthusiastic participants!
Members can communicate with each other through this Google+ Community. This way we can easily share ideas.
Add yourself by clicking over to the group.
In the left column of the G+ Community you'll see an icon for "turn notifications on/off." Be sure it is set to "on" so that you get updates via e-mail.

Project Contacts and Participants euroaristo.gif

The leader of this project is Doug Straiton. For a full list of participants, see the badge report.

If you would like to be involved in this project, please do the following:
  1. Add euroaristo to your list of followed tags. That way you'll see all of our discussions in your G2G Feed.
  2. Answer our joining question on the G2G (https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/363090/would-you-like-to-help-with-european-aristocrat-profiles?) indicating your area of interest.
  3. Add your name to the list here, along with a note about what you're currently working on for this project. Be sure to date it.
  4. Add the following line to the Biography section of your profile:
[[Category:European Aristocrats Project]]
You may also want to check out our older discussions on the Google Group. We use G2G for discussions now, but the archives are still very useful.

House Assignments

You can find a list of managers of the various houses (such as House of Neville, House of Plantagenet), as well as houses available for adoption here.

Profile Improvement Checklist

  1. At the top of the profile page text box, add the template for the project, which you can find here
  2. Add sources. Many of the sources listed on the Magna Carta project resource page are excellent sources for medieval profiles. See this list of resources here.
  3. Create and/or edit the Biography with footnotes, using either narrative or timeline styles.
  4. Add Medieval Lands Template at the very end of the text box, (see the end of this page in edit mode to copy/paste Template).
  5. Add Coat of arms image if available; check box "set as primary photo"; add source and copyright in the Comment Box below the image (add the blazon if you have it).
  6. Add images of castles, effigy, etc. as appropriate, being sure to include source and copyright information in the Comment box under the image.
  7. Tips on labeling images: scroll down in edit mode on the image until you see the title in the edit box and delete or replace 'image 1' 'image 2' etc. Then scroll to the end of the page and click save. Save the comment box first, and then "save as thumbnail" if it is a coat of arms, and last save the image title.

Profile Maintenance and LNAB Selection

All users are encouraged to first read WikiTree's guidelines on Name Fields for European Aristocrats. Then read Name Fields.

Last Name at Birth

LNAB: Last Name At Birth should be one word

EuroAristo project members decided that Fitz- names should be written with mid-caps, that is, a capital letter for the father's name. For example, write FitzAlan, FitzGeoffrey, FitzGerald, etc. This is the same pattern as used in names with Mac-: MacMurray, MacDonald, etc. Do not include a space. As Wikitree users encounter these names, we request that they change the capitalization for consistency.

For the LNABs that have been established, see Proper Spelling of LNABs.

For others, ask on the G2G forum, remembering to tag your post with euroaristo.

Prefixes, Suffixes, Titles

  1. PREFIX FIELD: This is for a title such as 'Sir' or 'Reverend'. A man who was knighted was called Sir. DO NOT USE this field for long titles, such as 'Earl of Angus'. Titles such as that belong in the 'Other Nickname' field.
  2. PREFIXES IN LAST NAME AT BIRTH FIELD: in cases like de Quincy, prefixes go with the surname in the Current Last Name field, EXCEPT when they are the last name at birth (LNAB) like St John. "St" is a prefix which stays with the surname; that is, "St John" goes in the LNAB field, and St is not dropped nor separated out into the prefix field.
  3. The common "de" before a surname does NOT go in the LNAB field; it goes with the surname in the Current Last Name field while the surname, ONE word, goes in the LNAB. Example: Last name at birth: "Villefort", Current Last Name: "de Villefort". The exception to this is de Vere. Members of this family should have both words in the LNAB field.
  4. PUNCTUATION: The correct style is to NOT use a period after a prefix such as Rev or Capt and this includes the prefix "St" (Saint).
  5. There is NO leeway on the rules for prefixes and suffixes; that is, those fields cannot be used for anything else.
  6. SUFFIXES IN LAST NAME: Jr, Sr, III, for moderns, and occasional KG or KB for medieval profiles go in the suffix field. NOTHING else goes in the suffix field.
  7. TITLES: Titles DO NOT go in prefix or suffix fields. They go in the biography. However, what people were called (King of England, Duc d'Angoulême, Lord Mountbatten, the Fat) belongs in the OTHER NICKNAMES field.
  8. ALTERNATE SPELLING OF LAST NAME: alternate spellings go in "Other Last Names"
  9. PATRONYMICS: Patronymics are middle names, (unless nothing else is available)
  10. WELSH NAMES: Welsh names are a muddle. Write a question on the G2G forum and get input from other before proceeding.
  11. We use the native language of the person within reason. Wikipedia is very good about translations.

Numerals in a Name

If there is a numeral, such as Henry III of England, his name at birth is Henry, preferred name is Henry III, Last Name At Birth is Plantagenet, Current Last Name is of England.

Merging Profiles

When merging always select the lowest correct LNAB. To understand the importance of this please see the page on project protection and the Supervisor page on project protecting and merging.

Sources and Templates for Profiles

The template below should be added to profiles that fall within the project by adding {{Euro Aristo 742-1499}} to the biography of the profile.

European Aristocracy
... ... ... is a member of royalty, nobility or aristocracy in Europe.
Join: European Royals and Aristocrats 742-1499 Project
Discuss: euroaristo

This next template can be applied to profiles by adding {{EuroAristo_Source}} or {{FMG}} to the biography of the profile, under "Sources", if using the Foundation of medieval genealogy as a source.

MEDIEVAL LANDS: A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families by Charles Cawley © Foundation for Medieval Genealogy & Charles Cawley 2000-2017.

Guide for Research

There are a few things we suggest you do to participate in the project on WikiTree.

  1. If you do not already have a project badge, which shows everyone you are part of the EuroAristo Project on WikiTree, contact Kathy and let her know you'd like to be a part of the project.
  2. Once you are a member, add the EuroAristo tag to your following feed so you'll see G2G discussions, updates, and opportunities to help out as other members pass lines they cannot pursue on to others.
  3. Visit our Google+ Community for weekly updates on progress, general news, and chatting with other members.
  4. If a profile strikes your fancy, but it is a private one, just send a message to Kathy or the manager (most likely a project member), and we can have you added so you can work on it.
  5. Keep all profiles as either Open - so anyone can jump in and help - or if the person is still alive (or might be) Private with Public Biography and Tree, so it can be easily referenced for others working on the same tree.
  6. If you have a question or need help, please post a new question in G2G. Be sure to tag it with [euroaristo] so the project members see it and we can step in to help. Use whatever surname is appropriate, as well, as many community members at large can help, too.
  7. This project is very important. Good research is very important. Give what time you can, even if it is only an hour or two a week. That little bit can accomplish a lot.
  8. THANK YOU for volunteering. This project would be impossible without the incredible volunteers here at WikiTree!
  9. If you come across fantastic profiles we can feature (or if you fix/improve on one) in the Profile of the Week or submit to the This Day in History/WikiPick of the Day feature on the blog, put them under the appropriate heading on this page.

Goals/Priorities

  • Get the name in the LNAB (last name at birth) field correct. We have a large number of profiles that were created, and new ones that continue to be created, with the wrong information in the LNAB field. We need to have people identify these profiles and fix them when possible (if you are a profile manager or notice it on an orphaned profile, you can make these changes). When you locate profiles and are unable to fix the LNAB, bring them to the attention of a leader with the ability to correct the LNAB field. These profiles include those that have a prefix or preposition, such as de, le, of, l' as part of their LNAB (for example, le Bigod in LNAB field needs to be changed to Bigod, and then Current Last Name (CLN) field changed to le Bigod). There are A LOT of profiles needing this attention.
  • Merge duplicate profiles. Back when WikiTree started, all GEDCOMs were allowed to be uploaded, creating a huge number of duplicate profiles. Duplicate profiles continue to be created, and we constantly need to be on the lookout for duplicates. Once a merge is completed, DON’T STOP THERE. Go into the newly merged profile and clean up the Biography/text section, deleting duplicate information.
  • Have all profiles as well-sourced as possible and conforming to the WikiTree Style Standards.
  • Include correct parents, spouse(s), and children.
  • Have appropriate categories listed in all Biography areas.

Profile Management Information

Profiles are managed by a small number of managers (frequently just one), as assigned by the user group. Management of 300+ year old profiles is treated differently than that of more modern profiles. For more information on this click here. Please understand that these profiles were created by many users and collaborated on by the group. Profile managers are not responsible for accuracy or content (though of course we try to improve it when we can).

Other European Royalty and Aristocracy Projects

There are several other WikiTree projects that deal with European nobility, royalty and aristocracy in which you may be interested:

  • For Magna Carta Barons and 'Illustrious Men' named in the Preamble, visit Magna Carta Project

Useful Links

England and the U.K. have five Peerages:

  • The Peerage of England — all titles created by the Kings and Queens of England before the Act of Union in 1707: Peerage of England
  • The Peerage of Scotland — all titles created by the Kings and Queens of Scotland before 1707: Peerage of Scotland
  • The Peerage of Ireland — titles created for the Kingdom of Ireland before the Act of Union of 1801, and some titles created later: Peerage of Ireland
  • The Peerage of Great Britain — titles created for the Kingdom of Great Britain between 1707 and 1801: Peerage of Great Britain
  • The Peerage of the United Kingdom — most titles created since 1801: Peerage of U.K.


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