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Edmund Quincy II (1602 - aft. 1637)

Edmund "Edmond" Quincy II aka Chancey
Born in Wigsthorpe, Northamptonshire, Englandmap
Ancestors ancestors
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married 14 Jul 1623 in Lilford, County Northampton, Englandmap
Descendants descendants
Died after in Quincy, Norfolk, Massachusetts Baymap
Profile last modified | Created 15 Dec 2008
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Edmund Quincy II migrated to New England during the Puritan Great Migration (1620-1640).
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Biography

Edmund Quincy (1602-1636) was an ancestor of Abigail Adams, wife of second U.S. president John Adams, and of Dorothy Scott, wife of the statesman John Hancock. [1]

Birth & Baptism

Baptized 30 May 1602 in Lilford, Northamptonshire, England, Edmund Quincy I was baptized May 30, 1602 at St. Peter in Lilford, Northampton, England, son of Edmond Quincy.[2][3][4][5]

One descendant named Eliza Susan Quincy wrote in 1844 that "His parents were almost certainly Edmund Quincy (baptised 1559, died 1627) and Anne Palmer (married 14 Oct 1593)[6] which is now known to be correct.

He is known to have lived in Thorpe in Achurch, Northamptonshire on an estate inherited from his father.[7][5]

Marriage & Children

He married July 14, 1623 at Lilford, County Northampton, England to Judith Pares of Bythorpe, County Huntingdon.[8][9][10]

They had two children: Judith, born in 1626, and Edmund, born in 1628.[11][5]

He appears to have converted to Puritanism by the time of the birth of his son.[12][13]

Immigration

Edmund Quincy and his wife arrived in New England with the Rev. John Cotton. William Wardell, his brother Thomas, and their wives left Downs, England and landed at Plymouth, Massachusetts on September 3, 1633 onboard the Griffin. They travelled to New England as servants of Edmund Quincy, as on William’s admission to Boston church 9 February 1634, he is called "one of our brother Edmond Quincy's servants.[14]

Colonial Life

Quincy was made a freeman and deputy March 4, 1633/34. In December 1635 he received jointly with William Coddington a large grant of land at Mount Wollaston, then part of Boston and now in Quincy, MA. His share was about 400 acres. His farmhouse that stood on what is now the southeast corner of Hancock Street and Butler Road was demolished about 1897. The site is marked by a granite monument.[15]

Death & Estate

He died shortly thereafter, about 1639 per Anderson's "Great Migration" but there is some mystery surrounding this date. He was proven alive 9 Jan 1636/37 when he was chosen as a selectman to help lay out Braintree, his wife was listed as the owner of their property on 9 Apr 1639 in a neighbor's deed which would normally indicate Edmund was dead, but then he apparently witnessed a deed on 13 Jan 1639/40 when son Edmund was only 12, so could not have been the witness. These latter two documents seem to contradict each other since by convention Edmund would have been listed as the property owner on 9 Apr 1639 if he were alive. At any rate, he definitely died after 9 Jan 1636/37.[16]

His widow, Judith married (2nd) Moses Paine by 1643. After his death she married (3rd) Robert Hull toward the end of 1646. She died at Boston on March 29, 1654.[17]

Research Notes

A family lineage for the Quincy family comes from an unsourced vanity publication, "Colonial Families of the United States of America...etc" [18] which states (unsourced) a family lineage including heraldic arms. This publication states that it was assembled from materials in possession of the various family descendants as well as from public records, so this marriage date should be treated with caution.

A profile for Edmund Chancey-29 was set up with the following facts, none of them supported by actual sources:

  • Born 30 May 1602 at Achurch, Northamptonshire, England (although Quincy-29 son of Edmund and Anne Palmer was christened this date) with a date of 1609 also given in the profile text (also unsourced)
  • Parents Thomas Chancey and Alice Robins, note that Thomas Chancey died at 10 days old and a supposed marriage between those two names in 1614 is not found, leaving aside the fact that the supposed marriage was 12 years after Edmund's birth
  • Married 14 Jul 1623 to Judith Pares which co-mingles this profile with the known Edmund Quincy of Lilford, Northamptonshire, thus the merge of this profile into Quincy-29.
  • Had only one child, Edmund which is not true as Quincy-29 and Judith Pare had at least one other daughter; Judith Quincy who emigrated to New England and married John Hull in Boston.
  • Died 17 Jul 1635 in Boston which is not supported by any known legitimate sources; Anderson's Great Migration gives a death date of about 1639 for the immigrant Quincy.

The sourcing given was ancestry.com family trees which linked only to other unsourced family trees or valueless auto-aggregated collections made up of unsourced user submissions such as Family Data Collection, Millenium File or FindaGrave. In some cases those trees no longer exist. Examples include:

  1. Gibson family tree https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/110501638/person/160092669315/facts

Sources

  1. Family Records of Mary Atkins.
  2. Lilford : St Peter : : "Parish Register" database, FreeREG (https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/5818930de93790eca363bfbc : viewed 1 Mar 2021) baptism Edmond Quinsey 30 May 1602
  3. Holly, H. Hobart. Descendants of Edmund Quincy 1602-1637 who settled in what is now Quincy, Massachusetts in 1635. Quincy, Massachusetts; Quincy Historical Society; 1977. pg 2.
  4. Lilford Parish Register image 22 by subscription at: https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/9198/101382382_00018
  5. 5.0 5.1 5.2 Colonial Families of the United States of America, Volume IV, pg 436
  6. The Quincy Family.
  7. Adams, Charles Francis (1892). Three Episodes of Massachusetts History. Houghton, Mifflin. p. 700.
  8. Holly, H. Hobart. Descendants of Edmund Quincy 1602-1637 who settled in what is now Quincy, Massachusetts in 1635. Quincy, Massachusetts; Quincy Historical Society; 1977. pg 2.
  9. Lilford Parish register image 38 of 143 https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/9198/images/101382382_00038
  10. England Marriages, 1538–1973 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NKTK-P5X
  11. Quincy, Wendell, Holmes, and Upham Family Papers, 1633-1910. Massachusetts Historical Society.
  12. "Quincy Political Family" Wikipedia.
  13. Joiner, Rev. Darrell and Sallyann (carverATime.net); Cary Family History.
  14. Great Migration: Passengers of the Griffin, 1633 Edmund Quincy
  15. Holly, H. Hobart. Descendants of Edmund Quincy 1602-1637 who settled in what is now Quincy, Massachusetts in 1635. Quincy, Massachusetts; Quincy Historical Society; 1977. pg 2.
  16. New England Historic Genealogical Society. Robert Charles Anderson, The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Volumes I-III p. 1539 $subscription site
  17. The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633
  18. Colonial Families of the USA, 1607-1775 Volume IV" page 436 Quincy by George Norbury Mackenzie circa 1905 https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/61175/images/colonialfamiliesiv-003078_436

See Also

  • Adams, Charles Francis (1892). Three Episodes of Massachusetts History. Houghton, Mifflin. p. 700.
  • Holly, H. Hobart. Descendants of Edmund Quincy 1602-1637 who settled in what is now Quincy, Massachusetts in 1635. Quincy, Massachusetts; Quincy Historical Society; 1977. pg 2.
  • Joiner, Rev. Darrell and Sallyann ; Cary Family History.
  • Quincy, Wendell, Holmes, and Upham Family Papers, 1633-1910. Massachusetts Historical Society.
  • "Quincy Political Family." Wikipedia.
  • The Quincy Family. The Quincy Family.

Sources obtained by Mary Atkins:

  • "Joseph Atkins: the story of a family; By: Francis Higginson Atkins"


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In order for the merge to go ahead I had to remove an email address from the sources. I change the @ to AT. I know that email addresses are part of citations so not sure how to work around this.
Thanks for the merge Jeanie, I don't think the email really matters, if somebody wants to use it they can still figure it out, assuming the email address is actually valid years later.
posted by Brad Stauf
Chancey-29 and Quincy-29 appear to represent the same person because: "Chancey"-29 profile has been cleansed and unlinked from completely bogus parents and is ready to be merged into Quincy-29. Quincy is correct name, no actual records supported the existence of Edmund "Chancey"-29 as originally constructed.
posted by Brad Stauf
thanks Brad. This profile is protected LNAB for upcoming merge.
Thanks Cheryl, as I slash & burned my way through the Chancey profiles I made sure to update, correct and source the profiles left behind for future generations of genealogists. Because, you know, I'm such a humanitarian...
posted by Brad Stauf
actually, you are....  :-)

really nice work.

Michelle, Do you have a good source for your info? If so can you go ahead and make the needed changes and add the source? Yanks! Pat
posted on Chancey-29 (merged) by Patricia (Prickett) Hickin
Patricia, I'm also working on the Quincy/Chancy overlaps, the "Colonial Families" sources linked in the profile are the ones stating this parentage and spouse, unfortunately it does not give it's own specific source, it's more of a "vanity" publication from what I can tell. The parish records (sourced on Quincy-29, the proposed duplicate) do show Edmond's baptism, his marriage to Judith Pares, and the marriage of Edmond's parents (Edmond and Anne Palmer) all in Lilford and with the name Quincy (or Quinsey, a single consistent spelling is just too much to hope for). From what I can tell, the current parents shown (Thomas Chancey and Alice Robins) are not supported as parents of this profile so my intent is to clean/revise this profile so that the merge can be completed with Quincy-29.

I've not been able to find any source yet supporting any of the data on the profiles of Thomas Chancey-30 and Alice Robins-389 and their profile says they were married 1614 but son Edmund was born 1602. If you've found actual sources for any of their information that would be great to know before I carry out the disconnect and merge. I did check the ancestry tree-behind-the-tree that is a supposed source for Thomas Chancey, it actually says Thomas died in 1590 at age 10 days based on a London burial, and then shows him marrying Alice Robins 24 years later (unsourced) with their son Edmund born (unsourced) at Isle of Wight in 1609 so all things considered, I think that tree is best disregarded. https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/71000573/person/150061061826/facts

posted on Chancey-29 (merged) by Brad Stauf
edited by Brad Stauf
The Edmund Quincey born 1602 died 1635 is the son of Edmond Chancey and Ann Palmer married to Judith Pares.
posted on Chancey-29 (merged) by Michelle (Gerard) Hartley
IS there any sources to verify Thomas and Alice as the parents? The source listed links to an ancestry tree that isn't sourced.
posted on Chancey-29 (merged) by Michelle (Gerard) Hartley
There is an entire duplicate line with a variation of Chancy or Chauncey. I'm working on identifying the duplicates. See Edmund Chancey
Hi Michelle, I volunteered to help with PGM unmerged matches and it looks like you've put a lot of work into the Quincy/Chancey/etc duplicate situation. Are you still actively working on this and is there anything I can do to help? I saw your comment on Chancey-29 asking about parentage which is unsourced and saw that the profile manager had not responded. The ancestry trees she linked to use non-sources like millenium file, family data collection and findagrave so are definitely not reliable. The one 'source' other than ancestry trees that she quoted, "Colonial Families of the USA, 1607-1775 for Edmund Quincy" actually shows the parents as Edmund Quincy and Anne Palmer, not Thomas Chancey and Anne Robins so it does seem like a decent match.
posted by Brad Stauf
Hi Brad,

You are more than welcome to work on them. See the link to the page I used to track the duplicates. Send me a request and I'll add you. Let me a note if you have any questions. I just don't have time to work on them right now. Thanks for working on them. There are numerous spelling variations with this family.

Hi Mary,

I discovered that Edmund Quincy has a featured article in R. C. Anderson's "Great Migration Begins." He is eligible to be in WikiTree's Puritan Great Migration Project.

I will add the project box.


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