Edmund Quincy II (1602 - aft. 1637)

Born 30 May 1602 in Wigsthorpe, Northamptonshire, England

Ancestors

Husband of Judith (Pares) Hull — married 14 Jul 1623 in Lilford, Northamptonshire, England

Descendants

Died after 9 Jan 1637 after age 34 in Quincy, Norfolk, Massachusetts Bay

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Edmund Quincy II migrated to New England during the Puritan Great Migration (1621-1640). (See Great Migration Begins, by R. C. Anderson, Vol. 3, p. 1539) Join: Puritan Great Migration Project Discuss: pgm

Biography

Edmund Quincy (1602-1636) was an ancestor of Abigail Adams, wife of second U.S. president John Adams, and of Dorothy Scott, wife of the statesman John Hancock. ^[1]

Birth & Baptism

Baptized 30 May 1602 in Lilford, Northamptonshire, England, Edmund Quincy I was baptized May 30, 1602 at St. Peter in Lilford, Northampton, England, son of Edmond Quincy.^[2][3][4][5]

One descendant named Eliza Susan Quincy wrote in 1844 that "His parents were almost certainly Edmund Quincy (baptised 1559, died 1627) and Anne Palmer (married 14 Oct 1593)^[6] which is now known to be correct.

He is known to have lived in Thorpe in Achurch, Northamptonshire on an estate inherited from his father.^[7][5]

Marriage & Children

He married July 14, 1623 at Lilford, County Northampton, England to Judith Pares of Bythorpe, County Huntingdon.^[8][9][10]

They had two children: Judith, born in 1626, and Edmund, born in 1628.^[11][5]

He appears to have converted to Puritanism by the time of the birth of his son.^[12][13]

Immigration

Edmund Quincy and his wife arrived in New England with the Rev. John Cotton. William Wardell, his brother Thomas, and their wives left Downs, England and landed at Plymouth, Massachusetts on September 3, 1633 onboard the Griffin. They travelled to New England as servants of Edmund Quincy, as on William’s admission to Boston church 9 February 1634, he is called "one of our brother Edmond Quincy's servants.^[14]

Colonial Life

Quincy was made a freeman and deputy March 4, 1633/34. In December 1635 he received jointly with William Coddington a large grant of land at Mount Wollaston, then part of Boston and now in Quincy, MA. His share was about 400 acres. His farmhouse that stood on what is now the southeast corner of Hancock Street and Butler Road was demolished about 1897. The site is marked by a granite monument.^[15]

Death & Estate

He died shortly thereafter, about 1639 per Anderson's "Great Migration" but there is some mystery surrounding this date. He was proven alive 9 Jan 1636/37 when he was chosen as a selectman to help lay out Braintree, his wife was listed as the owner of their property on 9 Apr 1639 in a neighbor's deed which would normally indicate Edmund was dead, but then he apparently witnessed a deed on 13 Jan 1639/40 when son Edmund was only 12, so could not have been the witness. These latter two documents seem to contradict each other since by convention Edmund would have been listed as the property owner on 9 Apr 1639 if he were alive. At any rate, he definitely died after 9 Jan 1636/37.^[16]

His widow, Judith married (2nd) Moses Paine by 1643. After his death she married (3rd) Robert Hull toward the end of 1646. She died at Boston on March 29, 1654.^[17]

Research Notes

A family lineage for the Quincy family comes from an unsourced vanity publication, "Colonial Families of the United States of America...etc" ^[18] which states (unsourced) a family lineage including heraldic arms. This publication states that it was assembled from materials in possession of the various family descendants as well as from public records, so this marriage date should be treated with caution.

A profile for Edmund Chancey-29 was set up with the following facts, none of them supported by actual sources:

• Born 30 May 1602 at Achurch, Northamptonshire, England (although Quincy-29 son of Edmund and Anne Palmer was christened this date) with a date of 1609 also given in the profile text (also unsourced)
• Parents Thomas Chancey and Alice Robins, note that Thomas Chancey died at 10 days old and a supposed marriage between those two names in 1614 is not found, leaving aside the fact that the supposed marriage was 12 years after Edmund's birth
• Married 14 Jul 1623 to Judith Pares which co-mingles this profile with the known Edmund Quincy of Lilford, Northamptonshire, thus the merge of this profile into Quincy-29.
• Had only one child, Edmund which is not true as Quincy-29 and Judith Pare had at least one other daughter; Judith Quincy who emigrated to New England and married John Hull in Boston.
• Died 17 Jul 1635 in Boston which is not supported by any known legitimate sources; Anderson's Great Migration gives a death date of about 1639 for the immigrant Quincy.

The sourcing given was ancestry.com family trees which linked only to other unsourced family trees or valueless auto-aggregated collections made up of unsourced user submissions such as Family Data Collection, Millenium File or FindaGrave. In some cases those trees no longer exist. Examples include:

1. Gibson family tree https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/110501638/person/160092669315/facts

• Anna Lohmann family tree https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/34022084/person/282019995948/facts

Sources

1. ↑ Family Records of Mary Atkins.
2. ↑ Lilford : St Peter : : "Parish Register" database, FreeREG (https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/5818930de93790eca363bfbc : viewed 1 Mar 2021) baptism Edmond Quinsey 30 May 1602
3. ↑ Holly, H. Hobart. Descendants of Edmund Quincy 1602-1637 who settled in what is now Quincy, Massachusetts in 1635. Quincy, Massachusetts; Quincy Historical Society; 1977. pg 2.
4. ↑ Lilford Parish Register image 22 by subscription at: https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/9198/101382382_00018
5. ↑ ^{5.0 5.1 5.2} Colonial Families of the United States of America, Volume IV, pg 436
6. ↑ The Quincy Family.
7. ↑ Adams, Charles Francis (1892). Three Episodes of Massachusetts History. Houghton, Mifflin. p. 700.
8. ↑ Holly, H. Hobart. Descendants of Edmund Quincy 1602-1637 who settled in what is now Quincy, Massachusetts in 1635. Quincy, Massachusetts; Quincy Historical Society; 1977. pg 2.
9. ↑ Lilford Parish register image 38 of 143 https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/9198/images/101382382_00038
10. ↑ England Marriages, 1538–1973 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NKTK-P5X
11. ↑ Quincy, Wendell, Holmes, and Upham Family Papers, 1633-1910. Massachusetts Historical Society.
12. ↑ "Quincy Political Family" Wikipedia.
13. ↑ Joiner, Rev. Darrell and Sallyann (carverATime.net); Cary Family History.
14. ↑ Great Migration: Passengers of the Griffin, 1633 Edmund Quincy
15. ↑ Holly, H. Hobart. Descendants of Edmund Quincy 1602-1637 who settled in what is now Quincy, Massachusetts in 1635. Quincy, Massachusetts; Quincy Historical Society; 1977. pg 2.
16. ↑ New England Historic Genealogical Society. Robert Charles Anderson, The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Volumes I-III p. 1539 $subscription site
17. ↑ The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633
18. ↑ Colonial Families of the USA, 1607-1775 Volume IV" page 436 Quincy by George Norbury Mackenzie circa 1905 https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/61175/images/colonialfamiliesiv-003078_436

See Also

• Adams, Charles Francis (1892). Three Episodes of Massachusetts History. Houghton, Mifflin. p. 700.
• Holly, H. Hobart. Descendants of Edmund Quincy 1602-1637 who settled in what is now Quincy, Massachusetts in 1635. Quincy, Massachusetts; Quincy Historical Society; 1977. pg 2.
• Joiner, Rev. Darrell and Sallyann ; Cary Family History.
• Quincy, Wendell, Holmes, and Upham Family Papers, 1633-1910. Massachusetts Historical Society.
• "Quincy Political Family." Wikipedia.
• The Quincy Family. The Quincy Family.

Sources obtained by Mary Atkins:

• "Joseph Atkins: the story of a family; By: Francis Higginson Atkins"