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Joan (Quincy) de Bohun (abt. 1245 - 1283)

Joan de Bohun formerly Quincy aka de Quincy
Born about in Essex, Englandmap
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Wife of — married before 7 Oct 1264 [location unknown]
[children unknown]
Died at about age 38 in Englandmap
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Biography

Joan de Quincy was daughter of Robert de Quincy and Ellen, daughter of Llewelyn ap Iorwerth.[1][2] She was born in about 1245: she was 19 at the time of her marriage[1] and when writs for the IPMs of her uncle Roger de Quincy were issued in 1264.[3]

Before 7 October 1264 she married, as his second wife, Humphrey de Bohun. They had no children.[1][4]

After her husband's death in 1265 she made alterations at Ware Priory to make her accommodation there more comfortable.[1]

On 9 November 1269 she exchanged her dower of the manor of Kimbolton for an annuity of £40 from the manor of Walton.[2]

In 1274 she and her sister Hawise were joint holders of the manor of Suckley in Worcestershire.[1]

She died on 25 November 1283. Her heir was her sister Hawise.[1][5]

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5 Richardson, Douglas. Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, 2011, Vol. I, pp. 234-235, BOHUN 3 Google Books
  2. 2.0 2.1 Cokayne, G E. Complete Peerage, revised and enlarged, Vol. VI, St Catherine Press 1926, p. 463 (under HEREFORD VI)
  3. 'Inquisitions Post Mortem, Henry III, File 31', in Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem: Volume 1, Henry III, ed. J E E S Sharp (London, 1904), pp. 184-192, entry 587, British History Online, accessed 5 October 2021
  4. Chauncy, Henry. The Historical Antiquities of Hertfordshire (J.M. Mullinger, London, 1826) Vol. 1, Page 398
  5. 'Inquisitions Post Mortem, Edward I, File 39', in Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem: Volume 2, Edward I, ed. J E E S Sharp (London, 1906), pp. 315-323, entry 534, British History Online, accessed 5 October 2021
  • Richardson, Douglas. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham. Salt Lake City: the author, 2013, Vol. I, pp.415-6 and Vol. V. p. 304; see also WikiTree's source page for Royal Ancestry
  • Richardson, Douglas. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 2nd edition, 2011, Vol. I, pp. 234-236, BOHUN 3, Google Books, ; see also WikiTree's source page for Magna Carta Ancestry
  • Cokayne, G E. The Complete Peerage, revised and enlarged, Vol. VI, St Catherine Press 1926, p. 463, Humphrey son of HEREFORD VI
  • Cawley, Medlands: Joan de Quincy




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QUINCY JOAN Second wife of Humphrey VI de Bohun, daughter of Robert II de Quincy

IT IS ERRONEOUS TO RECORD THAT THERE WERE NO CHILDREN FROM THE MARRIAGE OF HUMPHREY VI BOHUN AND HIS SECOND WIFE. The second Patent Roll entry dated 12 November 1265 records:- DURING THE MINORITY OF THE DAUGHTERS OF THE SAID HUMPHREY AND HEIRS OF JOAN LATE THE WIFE OF THE SAID HUMPHREY. No further record can be found for these daughters, and as they were not heirs of their mother when she died in 1283, one can only conclude that they died as sometime between 1265 and 1283, without heirs. The three manors that had been granted to Humphrey VI and Joan and the heirs of their bodies, had all reverted back to the Bohuns.

[CPR HIII] 12 November 1265 Westminster. Grant to Humphrey de Bohun, earl of Hereford, and his heirs, of the manors of Sudham and Withurst and 100s of land in Haresfeud, county Gloucester, the manor of Kanelauton, county Huntingdon, and the manors of Waleden and Depeden, county Essex, which the earl, by fine made in the king's court, had granted to Humphrey de Bohun his first born son, to hold after his death, to him and his heirs by Joan daughter of Robert de Quency his wife, which belong to the king by reason of the trespass and forfeiture which the said Humphrey made against the king and his son Edward in adhering to Simon de Monte Forti, some earl of Leicester, and his partisans, the king's enemies.

[Calendar Patent Rolls HIII] 12 November 1265 Westminster. Whereas William de Valencia, the king's brother, during the late disturbance in the realm, in the parts of Pembroke, besieged the castle of Haverford late of Humphrey de Bohun the younger then the king's enemy, and captured it from him; the king has granted to the said William the said castle to hold to him and his heirs DURING THE MINORITY OF THE DAUGHTERS OF THE SAID HUMPHREY AND HEIRS OF JOAN LATE THE WIFE OF THE SAID HUMPHREY.

[Calendar Fine Rolls EI] 24 December 1283 Rhuddlan. Order to the escheator on this side Trent to take into the king's hand the lands late of Joan de Boun, deceased, tenant in chief.

[Calendar Inquisitions Post Mortem EI V2] No 534 Joan, late the wife of Humphrey de Bohun. Writ 15 December 12EI. She died on Thursday the feast of St Katherine, 12EI [25 November 1283]. Hawise her sister, late the wife of Baldwin Wake, aged 32, is her next heir. Huntingdon – The manor of Kynebauton including the advowson of the church, held in dower of the said Humphrey.

posted by [Living O'Brien]
I have improved sourcing and added information. A brother-in-law John de Bohun was wrongly mentioned as a son, based on an unsourced tree on the web which had clearly confused two Humphrey de Bohuns, father and son.
posted by Michael Cayley
update: Made the switch. Correct mother - ferch_Llewelyn-1 - is attached.

Robert de Quincy's wife was Elen the Elder (according to his profile). OK if I switch the mother from Helen the Younger?

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett

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