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Frances (Ralph) Norman (1853 - 1929)

Frances Norman formerly Ralph aka Williams
Born in Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England, United Kingdommap
Ancestors ancestors
Wife of — married 12 Oct 1869 (to before 1890) in Gloucestermap
Wife of — married 1905 in Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England, United Kingdommap
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 75 in Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England, United Kingdommap
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Biography

Frances was born in 1853. Her birth was registered in Gloucester and her mother's maiden name was Nelmes. [1] She was baptised by parents Francis and Eliza.

In 1861 her mother Eliza was widowed and Frances was the youngest of the 3 children living in the household in South Hamlet, Gloucester. [2]

On 12 October 1869 Frances married William Henry Williams at Gloucester. William Henry was a Mixer in the Match Works and his father William Henry was a Cashier in a mercantile office. Frances father Francis as been a Sawyer. [3]

In 1881 Francis, now aged 28 and widowed, was living with her mother Eliza and 5 children. [4]

In 1881 (from children's birth records) Frances 'got together' with William Norman and they had a family, but didn't marry until 1904. This is confirmed as their children have the surname Williams and middle name Norman. They are listed on the census return with the surname Norman.

In 1891 William Norman was living in South Hamlet, Gloucester with lodgers Frances Williams and her 2 children from her previous marriage. They also had 6 children living there (with the middle name Norman and surname Norman). William was a Blacksmith. [5]

In 1901 William was living with Frances (Williams) as his wife and they lived with 5 children. A Frederick Williams, visitor, lived there - he was Frances' son (confirmed with a birth record). [6] The 1911 census confirmed they had been together for 30 years and had 17 children of whom 8 had died. William was a blacksmith for a Railway Carriage Waggon company. [7] Whether the count of children was just for Frances and William Norman or all Frances' children (there were at least 3), I'm not sure.

She passed away in 1929 aged 75. [8]

Sources

  1. Birth GRO Index
    RALPH, FRANCES NELMES
    GRO Reference: 1853 S Quarter in GLOUCESTER Volume 06A Page 212
  2. 1861 Census
    Name: Frances Ralph
    Age: 8
    Estimated Birth Year: 1853
    Relation: Daughter
    Mother's Name: Eliza Ralph
    Gender: Female
    Where Born: Gloucestershire, England
    Civil Parish: South Hamlet
    Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
    Town: Gloucester
    County/Island: Gloucestershire
    Country: England
    Registration District: Gloucester
    Sub-registration District: South
    ED, institution, or vessel: 7
    Household Schedule Number: 31
    Piece: 1767
    Folio: 102
    Page Number: 6
    Household Members:
    Name Age
    Eliza Ralph 39
    George Ralph 13
    Sarah Ralph 11
    Frances Ralph 8
    Source Citation
    Class: RG 9; Piece: 1767; Folio: 102; Page: 6; GSU roll: 542865
    Source Information
    Ancestry.com. 1861 England Census
    Ancestry uk Record 8767 #18181396
  3. Marriage Free BMD Index
    Marriages Dec 1869 (>99%)
    Ralph Frances Gloucester 6a 549
    WILLIAMS William Henry Gloucester 6a 549
    Ancestry Image: [1]
  4. 1881 Census
    Name: Frances Williams
    [Frances Ralph]
    Age: 28
    Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
    Relationship to Head: Daughter
    Mother: Eliza Ralph
    Gender: Female
    Where Born: St Lukes, Gloucestershire, England
    Civil Parish: South Hamlet
    County/Island: Gloucestershire
    Country: England
    Street Address: Elming Row No 31
    Marital status: Married
    Registration District: Gloucester
    ED, institution, or vessel: 9
    Piece: 2536
    Folio: 37
    Page Number: 16
    Household Members:
    Name Age
    Eliza Ralph 60
    Frances Williams 28
    Elizabeth Williams 11
    Selina N. Williams 9
    William Hy. Williams 8
    Frederick Geo Williams 5
    Alfred John Williams 3
    Source Citation
    Class: RG11; Piece: 2536; Folio: 37; Page: 16; GSU roll: 1341612
    Source Information
    Ancestry.com and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. 1881 England Census
    Ancestry uk Record 7572 #6239087
  5. 1891 Census
    Name: Frances Williams
    Gender: Male
    Age: 39
    Relationship: Lodger
    Birth Year: 1852
    Birth Place: Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England
    Civil parish: South Hamlet
    Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
    Residence Place: Gloucester, South Hamlet, Gloucestershire, England
    Registration district: Gloucester
    Sub registration district: South Hamlet
    ED, Institution or Vessel: 10
    Piece: 2015
    Folio: 142
    Household Members Age Relationship
    William Norman
    31 Head
    Frances Williams 39 Lodger
    Frederick G Williams 15 Lodger
    Alfred I Williams 13 Lodger
    William Norman Norman 9 Son
    Aldhouse Norman Norman 7 Son
    Rachel Norman Norman 4 Daughter
    Birt Norman Norman 3 Son
    Frances Norman Norman 1 Daughter
    John Norman Norman 7/12 Son
    The National Archives of the UK (TNA); Kew, Surrey, England; Census Returns of England and Wales, 1891; Class: RG12; Piece: 2015; Folio: 142; Page: 6; GSU roll: 6097125
    Source Information
    Ancestry.com. 1891 England Census
    Ancestry uk Record 6598 #24792587
  6. 1901 census
    Name: Rachael Norman
    Age: 14
    Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
    Relation to Head: Daughter
    Gender: Female
    Father: William Norman
    Mother: Frances Norman
    Birth Place: Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England
    Civil Parish: Gloucester
    Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
    Town: Gloucester
    County/Island: Gloucestershire
    Country: England
    Registration District: Gloucester
    Sub-registration District: South Hamlet
    ED, institution, or vessel: 12
    Piece: 2429
    Folio: 128
    Page Number: 1
    Household Schedule Number: 3
    Household Members:
    Name Age
    William Norman 42
    Frances Norman 43
    Rachael Norman 14
    Birt Norman 13
    Frances Norman 11
    John Norman 10
    George Norman 8
    Frederick Williams 25
    Source Citation
    Class: RG13; Piece: 2429; Folio: 128; Page: 1
    Source Information
    Ancestry.com. 1901 England Census
    Ancestry uk Record 7814 #13179179
  7. 1911 Census
    Name: Frances Norman
    Age in 1911: 57
    Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
    Relation to Head: Wife
    Gender: Female
    Birth Place: Gloucester, England
    Civil Parish: Gloucester
    Country: England
    Street Address: 49 Philip Street, Gloucester
    Marital status: Married
    Years Married: 30
    Estimated Marriage Year: 1881
    Registration District Number: 325
    Sub-registration District: Gloucester Southern
    ED, institution, or vessel: 08
    Piece: 15302
    Household Members:
    Name Age
    William Norman 51
    Frances Norman 57
    Frederick Norman 28
    Bert Norman 23
    John Norman 20
    Frances Norman 19
    Source Citation
    The National Archives of the UK (TNA); Kew, Surrey, England; Census Returns of England and Wales, 1911
    Source Information
    Ancestry.com. 1911 England Census
    Ancestry uk Record 2352 #56045064
  8. Death GRO Index
    NORMAN, FRANCES 75
    GRO Reference: 1929 M Quarter in GLOUCESTER Volume 06A Page 612
  • Census records, marriage certificate and birth certificate




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It may be possible to confirm family relationships with Frances by comparing test results with other carriers of her mitochondrial DNA. However, there are no known mtDNA test-takers in her direct maternal line. It is likely that these autosomal DNA test-takers will share some percentage of DNA with Frances:

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