Ellen (Reid) Davies (abt.1835-1891) | WikiTree FREE Family Tree

Ellen "Helen" Davies formerly Reid aka Crichton [uncertain]

Born about 1835 in Kilbirnie, Ayrshire, Scotland

Ancestors

Daughter of William Reid and Agnes (Gavin) Reid

[sibling(s) unknown]

Wife of Hugh Davies — married 27 Nov 1854 in Lochwinnoch, Renfrewshire, Scotland

Descendants

Mother of Hugh Davies, William Reid Davies, John Davies, Janet May (Davies) Parker, Mary (Davies) Smith and Margaret (Davies) Miller

Died 14 Jun 1891 at about age 56 in Amy Street, Thames, New Zealand

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Biography

I'm not convinced that Ellen Reid is her real name. DNA indicates she is of Crichton blood - so was she a child re-housed/orphaned/illegitimate?

Parent eliminated :_ Andrew B Crichton (1x removed DNA through some matches) Helen C died as an infant Robert Halkett C died in 1824 George C died young

Ellen was born about 1835. Ellen Reid married Hugh Davies.

Name: Helen Reid Gender: Female Marriage Date: 11 Nov 1854 Marriage Place: Abbey Paisley,Renfrew,Scotland Father: William Reid Mother: Agnes Gavin Spouse: Hugh Davies FHL Film Number: 1041091^[1]

There is an Ellen Reid aboard the Cornubia in April, 1855.

Information from Barbara Rodger;- "There seem to have been a number of Reid links in Kilbirnie...one being Andrew Reid/Janet Davies (sister of William Davies = Elizabeth White). Their son William (who married Agnes Stuart) had 11 children, and I don't know wether they stayed in Scotland or not...."

PAINFULLY SUDDEN DEATHS.,Thames Advertiser, Volume XXIV, Issue 6943, 15 June 1891

It is our unpleasant duly this morning to chronicle the sudden death of Mrs Davies and Mr A. Clarke, both old residents of the Thames. In both instances death is ascribed to fits. DEATH OF MRS DAVIES. Quite a gloom was cast over the town yesterday morning when it became known that Mrs Davies, wife of Mr H. Davies, carter, residing in Amy street, on the Beach, had dropped down dead about 9 o'clock, whilst preparing breakfast. Mrs Davies had always been a strong healthy woman, but it appears that lately she had been suffering from pains in her stomach, and on Saturday night took a dose of pills to see if they would do her any good. Just a short time before the sad event took place Mrs Davies was again attacked with the pains, and asked her husband if he would obtain for her a little spirits as she thought that it might give her some relief. Not having any spirits in the house, Mr Davies went out to get some. He had been gone only a few minutes when Olive Percy, a little girl nine years of age - the daughter of a neighbour—went to Mrs Davies' place with some scraps for the fowls, and not receiving any answer to her knock, pushed open the door, and discovered Mrs Davies lying upon the floor of the kitchen with her mouth open. The child immediately ran and informed her mother, who sent her to look for Mr Davies, whom she soon found. Mr Davies, who had been absent from home only about a quarter of an hour at the utmost, quickly returned, only, however, to find that his wife was quite dead. Mrs Percy had promptly sent a message to Dr Callan, who, when he arrived, could do nothing but confirm the fact that Mrs Davies was beyond all medical assistance. Judging by appearances, it would seem that the deceased had taken a fit whilst in the act of making porridge for breakfast, as the saucepan was boiling over the fire, and her body was found close to the fireplace. Great sympathy is felt for Mr Davies and family in their sad bereavement. An inquest will probably be held to-day.

Thames Star Death Notice: On the 14th June at the residence of Amy Street, Ellen, beloved wife of Hugh Davies, aged 56 Years.

Death registration 1891/2308 Davies Hellen Reed 56Y Ellen is buried with her husband at Shortland Cemetery Unique ID 3PUBL-PLOT-2115 Cemetery Name Shortland (Thames) Cemetery ID 3 Area Code PUBL Sub Area Code PLOT Plot Number 2115 Plot Status Used Capacity 2 Full Name DAVIES, Ellen Gender Female Age 56 Date Of Burial 15/06/1891

The death certificate is such a disappointment as it was reported by James Coombes the undertaker; it doesn't give parents- reports she married Hugh in Scotland at the age of 20 years, had been in New Zealand 36 years, and had 3 male, and 3 female children (gives ages) and that she lived at Amy St, Thames.

On 26 April 1904, Mary Smith of Ponsonby, Auckland purchased her parents burial plot at Shortland Cemetery. (Plot 2115, no headstone remains, but there is a twin trunk pine!)

Clutching at straws : In the area with an approximate birth date and same name in case she was 'adopted', rehoused and renamed... (so why don't we have any Reid DNA?? My father, brother, sister and myself are all carrying mystery Crichton matches) Helen Reid in the 1841 Scotland Census Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 Gender: Female Where born: Renfrewshire, Scotland Civil parish: Paisley Low County: Renfrewshire Address: George Place Parish Number: 573 Household Members Age

Abese Mcgregor35
Mary Mcgregor30
Helen Reid 10
Jane Mcnaught10

Hellen Reid in the 1841 Scotland Census Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 Gender: Female Where born: Renfrewshire, Scotland Civil parish: Kilbarchan County: Renfrewshire Address: Barbush

Household Members Age

Gavin Reid 30
Mararet Reid 30
Margaret Reid 12
Hellen Reid 10
Alexander Reid 8
Peter Reid 6
Jane Reid 4
Gaven Reid 1 Mo
Jane Craig 25
Mary Robertson 3 Mo

Or, as Ancestry suggests (intelligent matching), was she really Agnes Reid Gavin?

Agnes Hamilton Reid Gavin in the Scotland, National Probate Index (Calendar of Confirmations and Inventories), 1876-1936 Death Date: 1 Jan 1878 Death Place: Leith, Scotland Confirmation Date: 26 Jul 1878 Confirmation Place: Edinburgh, Scotland widow of William Reid, ship captain, who died intestate. Agnes next of kin was Annie Wilson Gavin. Annie was a daughter b 1837, died without issue.

Who was this Agnes Reid? Appears to be the wife of William Crichton? REID AGNES CRIGHTON / WILLIAM CRIGHTON F 08/03/1848 399/70 182 Abbotshall

Sources

↑ www.familysearch.org

Thames Advertiser, family records (Ron Patrick)
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/THA18910615.2.13
Thames Star,Thames Star, Volume XXIII, Issue 6908, 15 June 1891http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/THS18910615.2.9

"Scotland Marriages, 1561-1910," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XY31-CVW : 8 December 2014), William Reid in entry for Hugh Davies and Helen Reid, 11 Nov 1854; citing Abbey Paisley,Renfrew,Scotland, reference ; FHL microfilm 1,041,091.