Robert Royce
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Robert Royce (abt. 1605 - bef. 1676)

Robert Royce
Born about in Martock, Somerset, Englandmap
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died before before about age 71 in New London, New London, Connecticut, New Englandmap
Profile last modified | Created 14 Sep 2010
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Contents

Biography

This person is an ancestor of President Millard Fillmore[1]

Disambiguation

There are two Robert Royces who must not be confused:

  • Robert Royce of Boston, estimated birth 1615, married Elizabeth, died 1668.
  • Robert Royce of Connecticut, estimated birth 1605, married Mary, died 1676

Since Robert’s parentage is still disputed, as is the maiden name of his wife, Mary, he should remain unattached, rather than leading people astray. Links to his possible relations are underlined in the text below.

NOT Robert of Boston

First: Do not confuse Robert Royce of Boston with Robert Royce of Stratford and New London, Conn. Savage’s Genealogical Dictionary confuses the two men beginning with “ROYCE, ROBERT, of Boston, as early as 1631 or 2; freem. 1 Apr. 1634, by w. Elizabeth had Joshua, b. 14, Bapt. 16 Apr. 1637" includes the children of Robert of Connecticut and then concludes with " He d. 1676, and his wid. Mary was liv. on his est. 1688.”[2]

They are definitely two separate men. Robert Royce/Royse/Rice of Boston died before 27 Oct 1668. Reference two deeds[3], by his son Joshua, selling the land of his late father Robert. [4][5] They were presented in 1676, but one is dated from 1668.

The document mentions Joshua's mother Elizabeth Tearn/Tarne wife of Michael, and formerly wife of Robert. Robert of New London, husband of Mary, was himself still conveying land in 1670, so obviously was not dead.

Disputed Origins

An extensive search of internet sources, found not one shred of evidence linking Robert to Thomas Royce and Mary Appleton. The first page of 50 Ancestry trees, for Thomas and Mary, list 47 trees unsourced or sourced by other Ancestry tree entries. One gives a source of GDL #170??? One lists a sourced baptism for Thomas, but that is not a link to his son. The third source listed is World Family Tree Vol 22, Ed. 1. (Isn’t that one of those money making discs, with lots of unsourced data.) “Google” Thomas Royce, Mary Appleton. All you get is individual unsourced trees or other sites like mytrees.com. Please if you have legitimate sourcing for this couple as parents of Robert, let us know. Anne B 10:23, 5 May 2014 (EDT)

There is some current speculation on the parentage of Robert based on new findings for Robert, his wife and his children. See genforum "Robert Royce of Connecticut" http://genforum.genealogy.com/royce/messages/893.html. This is not a proven line and even the researcher later in the postings has some doubts about what he thought was one possibility for the parentage of Robert. This would be a great place to start researching for someone who wants to take a genealogical trip to England.

There is a chance that Robert Royce may be the son of William Royce of Berkshire and Lincolnshire.Day-1904 14:38, 16 September 2017 (EDT)

Disputed Spouse

Mary Sims ? Mary Jackson ? Mary Unknown ?

When did Mary Sims first became attached to Robert Royce? It appears in Jacobus' Families of Ancient New Haven, but probably has an earlier origin.

"ROYCE, Robert, d 1676; res. Stratford, CT and New London, CT; m. Mary____ who died 1696 at Wallingford[6]. [Robert m. 4 June 1634 in Martock, Co. Somerset, Eng. -- Mary Sims of Long Sutton Somerset.]"[7]

The area in brackets is stated by Jacobus to be unproven information.

Mr. Clarence Leslie Hewitt, Jr. thoroughly disproves this notion in his charming article “Some light on the Marriage of Robert and Mary Royce of Connecticut” in the New England Historical and Genealogical Register. Vol 122 pp274-77. Mr. Hewitt recounts his journey in England in the area of Martok, looking for Robert’s marriage and ancestry. In the parish of Martock, “It was anticlimatic to discover that there was no record of any wedding on 4 June 1634, much less that of Robert Royce and Mary Sims.” Neither were there records before or after giving evidence of any Simses. He and his wife then went to the parish of Long Sutton, Somersetshire, where at the public library, they were able to study W.P.W. Phillimore’s Somerset Parish Registers: Marriages (1898), vol 1. p. 116, where a marriage of Robert Rayce to Mary Sims did occur, but on 4 June 1624, 10 years earlier than the reported date. Mr. Hewitt concludes that 1624 is highly unlikely to be the date of marriage of Robert Royce and Mary, whose children were not born until 1633 ish. He concludes,

“Two valuable points seem to have been established conclusively by this report. First: the claim set forth in several printed books here and abroad that Robert Royce and Mary Sims were married in Martock on 4 June 1634 is not a fact; second: The marriage in Long Sutton on 4 June 1624, with which the first seems to have been confused, almost certainly could not have been that of the young couple from whom we are descended.”

Almost at the end of the discussion in genforum mentioned above http://genforum.genealogy.com/royce/messages/893.html, is this post "The Royce Family Association has found the marriage record for Robert Royce and Mary Sims at Martock, Somerset which occurred 4 June 1634. The record apparently had been overlooked by earlier researchers including the Clarence Leslie Hewitt, Jr." http://genforum.genealogy.com/royce/messages/897.html .

The genforum's post is not quite accurate. The Royce Family Association found the marriage of Robert Royce and Mary Sims, but not at Martock and not in 1634. They found the 4 June 1624 marriage at Long Sutton, which had been found by Mr. Hewitt. Their document can be downloaded here[8]

There is no doubt that a Robert Rayse married Mary Sims, in 1624. They also had children, not found by Mr. Hewitt in his searches.

Robert Rayse married Mary Sims, 4 June 1624, Holy Trinity Church, Long Sutton, Somerset, England. Record found in Phillimore’s transcripts.[9]
1. Robert Rayse, son of Robert, baptized (not born) 27 Mar 1625, Holy Trinity, Long Sutton, Somerset. from the Parish Register.[10][11]
2. Margaret Rayse, daughter of Robert, baptized (not born) 06 Jan 1626/7, Holy Trinity, Long Sutton, Somerset. from the Parish Register.[10][11]
3. Mary Rayse, daughter of Robert, baptized (not born) 19 April 1629.[12], Holy Trinity, Long Sutton, Somerset. from the Parish Register.[10][11]

There is no overlap here with the known children of Robert Royce in New England and the Royce Family Association Document has just stuck them on the beginning of the previously known list.

Other research has uncovered another possible scenario. For more detail on the discovery itself see the genforum post cited earlier.

The following information was found by Charles Julian in the IGI Indexes, confirmed in England by Hal Whitmore[13] or can be looked up at https://familysearch.org/search/collection/igi

Robert Royse & Mary Jugkson married 8 Apr 1627, Saint Michael, Stamford, Lincoln, England.[14]

  1. John Royse christened 30 December 1627; died 29 May 1628, All Saints, Stamford, Lincoln, England; s/o Robert[15]
  2. John Royse christened 29 June 1629, All Saints, Stamford, Lincoln, England; s/o Robert.[16]
  3. Mary Royse christened 10 Jul 1631, Saint Michael, Stamford, Lincoln, England; d/o Robert[17]
  4. John Royse christened 21 Apr 1633, Saint Michael, Stamford, Lincoln, England; s/o Robert & Mary[18]
  5. Sara Royse christened 08 Feb 1634, Saint Michael, Stamford, Lincoln, England; d/o Robert[19]
  6. Nehemiah Royse christened 30 May 1637, Saint Michael, Stamford, Lincoln, England; s/o Robert & Mary[20]

Note that the names John/Jonathan, Sara, & Nehemiah, are the names of children of Robert Royce and Mary that came with him from England. Which feels like the more likely scenario?

All the above having been said, bear in mind that none of the above constitutes proof, that either of these Roberts is the New England Robert. There may be more information to be found, more families of Robert & Mary, or there may be no information on this family at all. We all like to fill the blanks on our genealogical charts and it’s always fun to find out that you’re related to someone important, but the world is made up of ordinary people, who lead ordinary lives. They are important to the people that they care for and the people that love & respect them. That should be enough for anyone.

Vital Statistics

Robert Royce was born about 1605 in England. There are various baptismal dates that are possibilities: March 1, 1603, Robert, son of Robert, Martok;[21] and Robert Royse bapt 29 May 1597, Kingsbury, Episcopi, Somerset, son of Robert[22] Until one is proven to be correct, about 1605 is sufficient.

He married in England – Mary. Perhaps Mary Sims in 1624 or Mary Jugkson (Jackson) in 1627.

He died in 1676. There is no record of his death (not an uncommon occurrence) but it would have been before Sept 22, 1676, when an inventory of his estate valued at £420.11 was presented at court. One important point about the distribution of his estate is that besides his wife and some charitable gifts to the church, his estate goes to five sons and three daughters. We only know the names of two of his then living daughters.[23]

“Unfortunately the will and inventory have not been preserved and the record of them, if any was made, was probably destroyed at the burning of New London by the traitor Arnold in 1781.”[23]

It is believed that the widow, Mary, continued on the “Post Lot” until her declining years, when she went to live with one of her children, in Wallingford, where she died.

Life in New England

What did Robert do with his life between his birth and death, beside marrying a wife and having children?

'IMMIGRATION:' Robert left England between 1637 (the baptism of Nehemiah) and 1648 when the first located record of him is found in New England. The years between were turbulent times as England fought over it's method of government in the period known as the English Civil War.[24]

AT STRATFORD:

“Robert Rice was not of the original proprietors but came soon after them and was granted land from the town which was recorded Sept. 16, 1648, which is the earliest record now on the town books. ... The record says: “One house lot, two acres, more or less, butting south upon the highway”... He had also “meadow and upland in the Old Field, 8 acres in the Newfeyld...” and other pieces elsewhere. On February 6, 1660, Mr. Rice sold these parcels of land, including “one house lot, one dwelling house upon it and barn” ... and removed to New London.” His house lot was # 74.[25][26]

In Oct 1656, Robert Rice and Philip Groves were appointed leather sealers for Stratford.[25]

IN NEW LONDON:

LAND: Beginning in 1657, Robert Royce acquired and sold land recorded in the New London town land records. He bought a houselot of John Elderkin, and was subsequently given, by the town, some additional land nearby the future burial place. December 1, 1658, the town gave him ten acres of upland woodland by Mill Brook. April 2, 1659, Richard Smith Junior of Wethersfield sold to Robert his house and lot, ten acres next to Scull Plain, four acres in the Neck, four acres of fresh meadow and twenty-four acres of upland. September 11, 1660, John Stebbins deeded to him sixteen acres of upland by the Mill Brook and his six acre lot with the remaining part of Post Hill adjoining that which Robert already owned.[23]

January 7, 1662, and August 10, 1664, Robert conveyed and gave several of his lots with homes and buildings to his sons Nehemiah, Samuel, Nathaniel and Isaac.[23]

December 28, 1664, he purchased from William Measure and his wife Alice two acres of land on the highway. Robert Royce and his wife Mary sold this land to Lawrence Codner, April 29, 1670, and in the deed Robert's occupation is given as that of a shoemaker.[23]

An examination of the records reveals the purchase and sale by him of other tracts of land in various parts of the town. More of this land was sold in 1688 and 1697, by Robert’s heirs.[23]

A rate list for the “Ministry Tax” of 1664 shows the valuation of Robert's property at £163.[23][27]

CHURCH AFFILIATION: Mr. Bradstreet was ordained 5 Oct 1670 and he began his record of the church on that date, creating first a list of members which containing the name of Robert Royce but not his wife.[27]

TOWN SERVICE: May 1660, Constable of the town; 1661, Deputy to the General Court; 1663 and 1668, appointed Townsman; December 9, 1667, he and Gabriel Harris were chosen "to gather ye Towne Rate in the Towne plat for this yeere"; September 1666, he was on the jury of the County Court; September 1668, appointed one of the Grand Jurors for New London.[23]

OCCUPATION: Leather worker, shoemaker, keeper of the ordinary. 25 Feb. 66-7."Robert Rice (Royce) voated and chosen by the towne to keep ye Ordinary." Here he entertained the new minister, Reverend Simon Bradstreet, as the following vote shows: "To Goodman Royce for ye ministers dyet, 15 lb."[23]

WALLINGFORD:

Robert Roice and his son Nathaniel Royce are on the list of original proprietors of Wallingford.[28] It doesn't appear that Robert actually lived there but bought land to accommodate his sons Nehemiah, Samuel, Nathaniel, and Isaac who relocated to Wallingford.[27]

CHILDREN: The traditional list of Robert's children without the English baptisms:[7]

  1. Sarah, b c 1634, d. 1 May 1711 in Norwich ae 77; m. John Calkins.
  2. Nehemiah, b. c. 1636, d. Nov 1706 New London; m. Hannah Morgan.
  3. Jonathan, d. 1690; res. Norwich; m. 1) Mary Spinning 2) Deborah Calkins.
  4. Samuel, d 1711; Ens.; m. 1)Hannah Churchill 2)Sarah Baldwin.
  5. Nathaniel, d 8 Feb 1726; m. 1) Esther [prob.Moss] 2) Sarah Lathrop 3) Hannah (Wilcoxsen) Farnham 4) Abigail (Cooke) Pomeroy Hoyt.
  6. Isaac, d 1681; m 15 Dec 1669 Elizabeth Lathrop.
  7. Ruth; m 1) John Lathrop 2) Abraham Doolittle.
  8. Daughter. There is a third daughter mentioned in the probate records for Robert.

Sources

  1. Roberts, Gary Boyd; Ancestors of American Presidents, Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2009, pages 36-42.
  2. Savage, James. A Genealogical Dictionary of the First Settlers of New England Showing Three Generations of Those Who Came Before May, 1692. Vol. I-IV. Boston, MA, USA: 1860-1862. Volume 3 p. 570.
  3. Suffolk Deeds. Volume 9. pp 393, 352. Boston: Rockwell and Churchill, City Printers, 1897.
  4. Suffolk County Deeds Volume 9, p. 392
  5. Suffolk County Deeds Volume 9, p. 352
  6. Cites the New Haven County court records
  7. 7.0 7.1 Jacobus, Donald Lines (compiler). Families of Ancient New Haven, Vol VII. p 1549. New Haven: 1931. Reprint, Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1974.
  8. Note that this document does not list the source for this information
  9. at www.freereg.org.uk Search parameters Robert Rayse (soundex), Marriage 1623-1635, Somerset
  10. 10.0 10.1 10.2 www.freereg.org.uk Search parameters Rayse (soundex), Baptism 1624-1644, Long Sutton, Somerset and nearby.
  11. 11.0 11.1 11.2 bapt Robert, son of Robert Rayse and Margaret dau of Robert Rayse 6 Jan 1626 at Long Sutton both on image 24 I can see the bapt Mary Rayse dau of Robert 19 April 1629 at Long Sutton image 25 https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/60856/images/42886_1831109388_0453-00025?treeid=&personid=&hintid=&queryId=52bdb222a254917a30f8bb569503cc88&usePUB=true&_phsrc=IzZ328&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&pId=2901514
  12. The Royce Family Association has a date of 19 April 1629
  13. http://genforum.genealogy.com/royce/messages/917.html except one of the two early Johns
  14. Index project # M03171-3. system origin England-ODM. GS Film # 1450475 IT 2. ["England Marriages, 1538–1973 ," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NKQS-13V : accessed 04 May 2014), Robert Royse and Mary Jugkson, 08 Apr 1627; citing Saint Michael, Stamford, Lincoln, England, reference ; FHL microfilm 1450475 IT 2. ]
  15. "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NG5Y-56J : accessed 04 May 2014), John Royse, 30 Dec 1627; citing , reference ; FHL microfilm 436051, 508046.
  16. "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NG5Y-56K : 6 December 2014, John Royse, 29 Jun 1629); citing ALL SAINTS,STAMFORD,LINCOLN,ENGLAND, index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 436,051, 508,046.
  17. "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NGVP-VMQ : accessed 04 May 2014), Mary Royse, 10 Jul 1631; citing SAINT MICHAEL, STAMFORD, LINCOLN, ENGLAND, reference ; FHL microfilm 504769.
  18. "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JQJZ-J9R : accessed 04 May 2014), John Royse, 21 Apr 1633; citing SAINT MICHAEL, STAMFORD, LINCOLN, ENGLAND, reference ; FHL microfilm 1450475 IT 2.
  19. "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N26R-W3L : accessed 04 May 2014), Sara Royse, 08 Feb 1634; citing SAINT MICHAEL, STAMFORD, LINCOLN, ENGLAND, reference ; FHL microfilm 1450475 IT 2.
  20. "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N26T-9P2 : accessed 04 May 2014), Nehemiah Royse, 30 May 1637; citing SAINT MICHAEL, STAMFORD, LINCOLN, ENGLAND, reference ; FHL microfilm 1450475 IT 2.
  21. Somerset parish register - the bapt 9 March 1603 Martock is for a Robert RICE, son of Robert, Image 38 https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/60856/images/engl78030_d-p-mart-2-1-1_m_00037
  22. Image 11 https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/60856/images/engl78030_d-p-k-ep-2-1-1_m_00010 link at Ancestry. Somerset Heritage Service; Taunton, Somerset, England; Somerset Parish Records, 1538-1914; Reference Number: D\P\K.EP/2/1/1
  23. 23.0 23.1 23.2 23.3 23.4 23.5 23.6 23.7 23.8 Starr, Frank Farnsworth (Compiler), Various Ancestral Lines of James Goodwin and Lucy (Morgan) Goodwin of Hartford, Connecticut (Hartford, Conn., 1915) Vol. 1, Page 295-301 NOTE: Starr is very good about referencing his facts to original records. See here
  24. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Civil_War
  25. 25.0 25.1 Orcutt, Rev. Samuel. A History Of The Old Town Of Stratford And The City Of Bridgeport, Connecticut The Fairfield County Historical Society, 1886.
  26. Starr cites the following references “"Stratford, Conn., Land Records, vol. 1, old folio 62, new p. 101, and old folio 140, new p. 259.’”
  27. 27.0 27.1 27.2 Caulkins, Frances Manwaring. History of Norwich, Connecticut: From Its Possession by the Indians to the Year 1866. (Hartford: Friends of the Author, 1873.) minister's list p. 144; 1664 tax list p. 152; short bio p. 294
  28. Davis, Charles Henry Stanley. History of Wallingford, Conn., from its settlement in 1670 to the present time, including Meriden, which was one of its parishes until 1806, and Chesire, which was incorporated in 1780. (Meriden, Conn. : The Author, 1870.) p. 86




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I’m wondering …

Given the uncertainties regarding Robert and Mary (UNKNOWN) … and … independent of the “traditional list” of Robert’s children … is there any evidence/proof that these children are siblings?

I’m particularly interested in Sarah and Samuel. Are they sister and brother? Can this relationship be confidently inferred from other available sources unrelated to the proposed parents?

posted by Ken Bashford
edited by Ken Bashford
See https://archive.org/details/variousancestral01star/page/n321/mode/2up?view=theater starting with Unfortuantely, Samuel and Sarah are both mentioned.
posted by Anne B
Excellent! Thank you so much!
posted by Ken Bashford
Would like to explicitly note that it’s not just people who are lead astray by unproven/poorly-sourced attachments in the Vital Data section …

… WikiTree’s connection/relationship algorithms are also lead astray.

posted by Ken Bashford
I came across new unsourced information for John Royce (son of Jonathon and Deborah Caulkins Royce. It is at Find A Grave (memorial #12843895) and states that Jonathon was the son of Robert and Mary (Burns) Royce, who was the son of Thomas and Margaret (Hamlin) Royce/Rice. I have no idea where the manager of the Find A Grave memorial came up with any of the information as it is not stated. I believe this site more than I do with Find A Grave as I have found many errors there.
posted by Vickie Weber
Thanks for your comments, Vickie. Although the Findagrave memorial is an appropriate source for Sgt, John Royce's death and burial, with no supporting sources for the suggested lineage, it isn't useful for this profile. You could reach out to the memorial's manager to see if they have additional source information that might help.
posted by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
It might not be useful, but it might help others who come across that info in the future and is not sure what is the correct info.
posted by Vickie Weber
Also, neither of the 2 people that maintain the Find A Grave entry will accept messages so that is a dead end.
posted by Vickie Weber
FindaGrave is a nice resource, but there is unfortunately no way to flag a page that gives false information. The best one can do with a non-responsive member is leave "flowers" with a comment and hope that steers careful researchers off. I suppose one could even create a symbol instead of a flower that would give a heads up.
posted by A Fabry
Checked the Somerset parish register - the bapt 9 March 1603 Martock is for a Robert RICE, son of Robert, Image 38 https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/60856/images/engl78030_d-p-mart-2-1-1_m_00037?treeid=&personid=&hintid=&queryId=2cc84279a903c5b0d808b75df84d16e8&usePUB=true&_phsrc=IzZ325&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&pId=4986332

BUT there is a Robert Royse bapt 29 May 1597 Kingsbury Episcopi, Somerset, son of Robert Image 11 https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/60856/images/engl78030_d-p-k-ep-2-1-1_m_00010?treeid=&personid=&hintid=&queryId=2cc84279a903c5b0d808b75df84d16e8&usePUB=true&_phsrc=IzZ326&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&pId=4667072

It is less than 6 m Long Sutton to Kingsbury where the marr 4 June 1624 took place to Mary Sims.

I can see the bapt Robert, son of Robert Rayse and Margaret dau of Robert Rayse 6 Jan 1626 at Long Sutton both on image 24 I can see the bapt Mary Rayse dau of Robert 19 April 1629 at Long Sutton image 25 https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/60856/images/42886_1831109388_0453-00025?treeid=&personid=&hintid=&queryId=52bdb222a254917a30f8bb569503cc88&usePUB=true&_phsrc=IzZ328&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&pId=2901514

posted by Beryl Meehan
Royce-780 and Royce-35 appear to represent the same person because: Both represent Robert Royce of Connecticut; he also needs detaching from the father Thomas. See Royce-35 for details.
posted by Jillaine Smith
Thanks for the link, Pat!

...just when you think you've read it all...  :-)

The blue type is listed on the Help:Templates page under

Formatting Templates (Approved)

Personally, I think the use of color in biographies is very distracting. It makes reading the text more difficult, especially when several colors/bold print are used close together.

posted by Pat (Fuller) Credit
Is the blue print in this biography acceptable - according to our style guide?

I looked but can't find it.

Sandra, that information has been disproven. The Robert Royce who married Mary Sims a) did not do so in Martok in 1634 but in 1624 in another town and b) had a different set of children. Please read the narrative here for details. Also, you should doubt any source that claims English were in Connecticut in 1604.
posted by Jillaine Smith
Thomas ROYCE OR RHYS 4 was born in 1569 in Boeman, Bucks, England, died about 1600 of Martock, Somerset, England about age 31, and was buried about 1600 in , , England. Ancestral File Number: HNB2-BW.

Thomas married Mary APPLETON about 1604 of New London, New London, Connecticut, USA. Mary was born about 1587 in Martock, Somerset, England and died in 1629 in Martock, Somerset, England about age 42. The child from this marriage was: 8524 i. Robert ROYCE (born on 1 Mar 1562 in Martock, Somersetshire, England - died in 1676-1684 in New London, New London, Connecticut, USA) Links http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p2453.htm#i73722

posted by Sandra Rice
I have created a profile Royce-710 for William Royce of Berkshire and Lincolnshire. William Royce is a documented person, so regardless of relationships, he's a valid profile. William Royce has a son Robert who is quite likely Robert Royce of Connecticut. On Royce-710 I'm creating a section of information for son Robert. When and if it appears that William's Robert is indeed Robert of Connecticut, William can be linked as Robert's father. If it appears that William's Robert is not Robert of Connecticut, then William's Robert can get his own profile. Meanwhile, I'll add a crosslink between the two profiles in the narrative for easy reference back and forth.
posted by Jack Day
Anyone interested in Robert's Y DNA is welcome to check out the FamilyTreeDNA Rice family DNA project which is open to the public. Robert Royce's descendants are group 3. Results open to the public of anyone who agreed to make their results public..... https://www.familytreedna.com/public/rice/default.aspx?section=yresults You will have to select 37 markers at the top as it defaults to 12. Then it will cut down possible unrelated people... some of the 12 marker matches may be relatives that didn't want to spend the money to do the further testing though... it will still show those that tested higher amount of markers if you look at the 12 marker default. Group 3 is the important group to look at for Robert's descendants.
posted by Jeannie Quall
No idea why this proposed match has been rejected. Everything about it fits my records.
posted by [Living Winter]
Robert Royce's eldest three immigrant children (there were three more who died young) were baptized at St. Michael, Stamford, Lincolnshire, England per http://genforum.genealogy.com/royce/messages/893.html , which shows that Robert Royce married Mary Jugkson [Jackson] 8 April 1627 at St. Michael, Stamford; and suggests that Robert was son of William Royce and Joan Casebird who were married 1 Oct. 1598 at Kingston Bagpuize, Berkshire.
posted by [Living Schmeeckle]