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John Runciman (abt. 1775)

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John Runciman
Born about in Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotlandmap
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[children unknown]
Died [date unknown] [location unknown]
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Biography

This biography was auto-generated by a GEDCOM import.[1] It's a rough draft and needs to be edited.

Name

Name: John /Runciman/ [2]

Birth

Birth:
Date: BET 1775 AND 1783
SDATE BET 1775 AND 1783
Place: Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Note: Date a guess from knowing three snippets of information - father Alexander was back in Edinburgh by 1771 to take over the Academy of Drawing in the College of Edinburgh, that he was "an infant" when Alexander died in 1785, and by 1802 John had gone to London "some years since", as a silversmith.
We cannot find any registration of his birth as Runciman. Could be regsitered under the names of his father's unnamed mistress instead.[3][4][5]

Imported only 1775 from Birth Date and marked as uncertain.

Reference

Reference: 70932

Occupation

Occupation:
Note: Sunday 1st August 1802 Extract from the article a ˜Biographical Sketch of Alexander Runciman"
"He (Alexander) was never married, but had a natural son named John, who was bred a silversmith, and went to London some years since."
Alan Runciman, Sept 2014
Date: BEF 1802
SDATE BEF 1802
Place: London, London, England[6][7]

Event

Event:
Type: WebHighlight
SDATE 1803
Note: Anyone know of any John, silversmith in London, who may or may not have a surname RUNCIMAN?
Or have kept a catalogue of the mistresses of the artist Alexander RUNCIMAN's agent ROSS, so we can determine John's mother's name?
Alan quotes a Biographical Sketch of Alexander Runciman which appeared in The Scots Magazine, Sunday 1st August 1802, page 622. He was never married, but had a natural son named John, who was bred a silversmith, and went to London some years since.
Alan also recalls having read that shortly after his death there was a request made to one of the Arts bodies to provide some financial support to his mistress and ‘young son’ which was dismissed with little sympathy.
Which turns out to be a footnote in a book on masculinity in British art 1750-1810 - and also refers to a nephew of Alexander's, yet to be identified.
Lorna[8][9][10][11]

Sources

  1. Runciman-894 was created by Lorna Henderson through the import of RuncimanArtistsAndWoburnAlanLornaCombined.ged on Dec 5, 2014. This comment and citation can be deleted after the biography has been edited and primary sources are included.
  2. Source: #S2868 Page: John natural son of Alexander RUNCIMAN artist, from '‘Biographical Sketch of Alexander Runciman' from The Scots Magazine, Sunday 1 Aug 1802, pg 622, extracted May 2013
  3. Source: #S2729 Page: Existance of John, son of Alexander RUNCIMAN, painter, and ex mistress of his agent ROSS, http://www.myheritage.com/site-203658121/runciman-brothers-scottish-artists, extracted May 2013
  4. Source: #S2868 Page: John natural son of Alexander RUNCIMAN artist, from '‘Biographical Sketch of Alexander Runciman' from The Scots Magazine, Sunday 1 Aug 1802, pg 622, extracted May 2013
  5. Source: #S2868 Page: 1785 Son & nephew of Alexander RUNCIMAN, artist, from "Body Building: reforming masculinities in British art 1750-1810" by Martin Myrone, ISBN 0-300-11005-7, Pg 346 Note 49, extracted May 2013
  6. Source: #S2729 Page: Existance of John, son of Alexander RUNCIMAN, painter, and ex mistress of his agent ROSS, http://www.myheritage.com/site-203658121/runciman-brothers-scottish-artists, extracted May 2013
  7. Source: #S2868 Page: John natural son of Alexander RUNCIMAN artist, from '‘Biographical Sketch of Alexander Runciman' from The Scots Magazine, Sunday 1 Aug 1802, pg 622, extracted May 2013
  8. Source: #S2729 Page: 1802 John, natural son of Alexander RUNCIMAN, "bred a silversmith, went to London some years since", from 'Biographical Sketch of Alexander Runciman' appearing in The Scots Magazine, Sunday 1 Aug 1802, transcr. extracted May 2013
  9. Source: #S2868 Page: John natural son of Alexander RUNCIMAN artist, from 'Biographical Sketch of Alexander Runciman' from The Scots Magazine, Sunday 1 Aug 1802, pg 622, extracted May 2013
  10. Source: #S2868 Page: 1785 Son & nephew of Alexander RUNCIMAN, artist, from "Body Building: reforming masculinities in British art 1750-1810" by Martin Myrone, ISBN 0-300-11005-7, Pg 346 Note 49, extracted May 2013
  11. Source: #S3


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