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Dave Rutherford

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Dave J. Rutherford
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Dave Rutherford was born in Windsor, Ontario, Canada.
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Descendant of PGM migrant Lt. Joshua Tidd.
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Currently working on WikiTree as a Ranger, G2G Moderator, Co-Leader of both the Canada Project and the Palatine Migration Project.

Graduate - John L Forster Collegiate Institute - 1968
University of Windsor - 1971 (B.A.)

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Hi Dave


Ethel's maiden name was Hill, as per the sources and research notes on her profile

Could you please amend her Last Name at Birth or add me to her Trusted List so I can make the change myself.

Thanks Steve

posted by Steven Whitfield
Hi Steven,

Thanks for the find. I've corrected the LNAB and added you to the trusted list.

I will leave your Research Notes intact, but there are many reasons why a marriage record might not be found, including something as simple as a transcription error. I think that the 1891 census is prima facie evidence that she and Herbert were married, as is the fact that she was listed as Dickinson, not Hill, on her death registration. So I will be reattaching them as a married couple.

posted by Dave Rutherford
OK - Thanks for sorting this Dave.
posted by Steven Whitfield
Hi Dave,

I see that you have worked a lot on the Teeple family of New Jersey. I have added information about two Teeples (who also go by Teeple, but seem to use Teeples most of the time) in Mason county Kentucky. They were both born around 1790 or so in New Jersey - Ann Teeples and James Teeples. The Mason county death records report that Ann was the daughter of James and Debby Teeples. They were both in Mason KY before 1820. Do you have any ideas about connecting them to the Teeple families of New Jersey?


posted by Julie Henry
Hi Julie,

I am descended from the New Jersey Teeple's. But the records for Teeple's in the 1700's are quite a mess. The Teeple People newsletter folks had promised an update a couple of years ago but it never materialized.

Your James and Ann don't look familiar, but I'll take a closer look at my notes and send you a private message in a day or so.


posted by Dave Rutherford
I see you updated the birth place for James Wintermute profile Wintermute-42. What is the source for this location? Did you also add the death location? If so what is the source? Are you a descendant of the Wintermute family? If so I would like your line. Please send a private message to [email address removed]
posted by Bradley Moody
Hi Bradley,

Wintermute's wife Catherine Young is my wife Brenda's gggg grand aunt. Her brother Peter is her direct ancestor. Catherine's sister Dorothy also married James brother Jacob. The men in both families rode with Butler's Rangers.

I do have better sources than are attached to the profile currently. I'll add them and I'll send you a private message on your profile.


posted by Dave Rutherford
edited by Dave Rutherford
Hello Dave,

Please see the comment that I have posted on Brenda (Milne) Rutherford's profile page about Thomas Dell and Anna "unknown" Dell. I am sure that you can help us resolve the "unknown" issue now that I have found Anna's maiden name of Tinney (and cited this in the profile updates for Thomas).

Thanking you in advance.


posted by Jane Embleton
Hi Jane,

No need for apologies. Thanks so much for your work on the Dell profiles. I've made the LNAB change for you. These folks are very distantly connected to Brenda and we would be happy to hand over management to you if this is your family. Just let me know.


posted by Dave Rutherford
Hi Dave,

Thanks so much for your help. I would be happy to take on both profiles - Thomas and Anna (Tinney) Dell - as they are my 3 x GG and I am currently researching their ancestors as well as adding other children as I find them. I also discovered yesterday that I am not only related to these Dells on my paternal side (which I have known about for quite some time) but also on my maternal side: my brain was scrambling at bit...lol.


posted by Jane Embleton
Dear Germany Project member,

it's annual check-in time 2023. If you still wish to remain a member of the Germany Project, please reply to this post, by stating this intention. If we don’t hear from you in the next 30 days, your membership badge will be removed. In this case please don't be offended ... you're welcome to rejoin at any time. Please also note, that in order to receive help, with researching your German ancestors, membership is not mandatory. Just ask your questions in the G2G forum and tag them with Germany in order for knowledgeable people to see them.

If you wish to remain a member, we would like to learn more about your perception of the Germany Project in order to achieve a future development according to our members needs and wishes. For this, we created a survey, which we kindly ask you to fill-in.

In case you want to communicate, discuss and receive help about WikiTree in German, you might want to check out the WikiTree category at Compgen’s Discourse as well as the German Discord server Ahnenforschung.

Of course there’s still the official WikiTree Discord server, where we usually talk English. Feel free to learn more about Discord and the server at Help:Discord.

Kind regards from Black Forest

Flo (Project Coordinator Research/Resources)
posted by Florian Straub
Hi Flo,

When we set up the Palatine Migration Project it was originally a sub-project of the Germany Project. But we are now stand-alone with our own badge and project account. So I guess I don't need my Germany Project membership any longer.



posted by Dave Rutherford
Thanks for the feedback. I removed your badge.
posted by Florian Straub
Saying thank you for all your outstanding work on the Teeter line is such a gross understatement but thank you anyway. - Richard (Ricco) Renzetti.
posted by Ricco Renzetti
You're welcome Ricco! My wife's grandmother was a Teeter, from the branch that moved to Upper Canada in the 1790's. There are lots of other folks (Nathan Kennedy among others) who have also made big contributions to the tree!
posted by Dave Rutherford
I see the Palatine Migration Project is now managing Johannes Sturm (Storm). Which is great. What's the protocol here? Ought I to remove myself as co-manager, as you have done?
posted by AM Hayes
You are welcome to remain as a profile manager if you wish to. The project is happy to share management duties with you. I remove myself because my watchlist would get too big if I stayed on all the Palatines along with my own tree.
posted by Dave Rutherford
Hello Dave,

I see you worked on my 7th great-grandfather's profile (Feller-8) yesterday. Thank you!!!

posted by Judi Stutz
Dave! Thanks for all your good work!

Christine Croddy. I see you’ve added a birthplace. Could you possibly source this for us?

It certainly would be awesome if she was German/Palatine. It makes sense.

(I was convinced she was Irish. I know, crazy, but there’s some logic in it. But I’m always fine with more German blood.)

posted by Gregory Morris
Hi Gregory,

This profile was added some time ago to the Palatine project because her birth place was shown as Germany. But Germany did not exist that far back. It was part of the Holy Roman Empire or (in German) Heiliges Römisches Reich. As we are supposed to use their naming conventions and not ours, I changed the birth place.

But now reviewing this, it appears that whether she was Irish or German, all trees point towards her being born in Virginia, which means she should not be part of the project. So I will change the birth place to Virginia and remove the project.

posted by Dave Rutherford

My preference has been to consult with a project for merges. What are your thoughts on https://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Special:MergePerson&user1_name=Shalle-1&user2_name=Schalle-2&action=compare

Thoughts? Git r done?

David *

posted by David Wilson
Thanks for the heads up. This one had slipped through the cracks on me. Now done.
posted by Dave Rutherford
Hi Dave! Thank you so very much for all of the work you did to correct the spouse & children of Mary Ballenger. I truly appreciate this needed change. ~Honi
posted by Honi Kleine
Hi Honi! Thanks for your clear, cogent explanation of the problem. Using direct links in your comment also made it easier to follow. Glad to get things straightened out!
posted by Dave Rutherford
Hello Dave!

Just dropping by to say Thank You for acknowledging some recent changes I made to the profile of one of my great-gr-gr-gr-... grandfathers. I think I've shared my respect for the work you do with various projects, especially the Palatine Migration, as I seem to have several direct ancestors that fall within the project's scope. Anyway, it means a lot to be "Thanked" for small adjustments and I certainly look forward to working with you again sometime soon. Cheers! Becky Elizabeth

posted by Becky Simmons
Thank you Becky for all your work on our Palatines!
posted by Dave Rutherford
After much debate and against several other members who publicly stated multiple sources on the profile, you have abused your admin powers to merge Charles Keyser, remove his spouse with multiple sources, attempt to rewrite the biograpy to fit your framing of the family and project protected Charles Kayser so that only your acceptable spouse can be on the profile. This is exactly why multiple members have refused the merge and you just won't accept that.

You should be ashamed of yourself and I will be complaining about this.

posted by K Hardcastle
I congratulate Dave for his hard work and judicious decisions related to the Charles Kayser profile. There is no basis for the accusation that he was favoring "his acceptable spouse." The truth is that there are sources identifying Mary as Charles's spouse, but months of effort failed to unearth any evidence for Elizabeth.
posted by Ellen Smith
edited by Ellen Smith
Hello Dave,

Thanks for the tip on "Who Do You Think You Are" about the Mabie family I've been working on for my level 3 Canadian Orphan Trail. I was so excited about it, I was looking for the connections on my breaks at work today, and then when I got home, I was able to link up Offerman-37 through the Loucks line to the Mabies. You are 19 degrees from Offerman-37 and interestingly so am I.

posted by Judi Stutz
Cool! His tree is now connected to his Mabie and Pickard ancestors. He and my wife are 9th cousins, sharing Bartholomew Pickard as a common ancestor.

No surprise that my connection to him runs through my Palatine ancestors.

posted by Dave Rutherford

My apologies, I can't seem to remember where I should place these notices. At any rate, the following family arrived in Philadelphia, on the Thistle in 1730. I believe they all should be listed in the Palatine project.

The list of passengers of the Thistle, arriving in Philadelphia in 1730 include the following: Ulrich Scherer Margaretha Apolonia (Walckner) Johann Friedrich, 11 Bur2000 Sherer; To Philadelphia, PA. Johannes Scherrer, 33 Anna Barbara Johann Jacob, 3

If you tell me where I should communicate this information/request, I promise to write it down this time! Judy Luckenbill-68 Brett

Thanks Judy.

Looks like one or two of these folks have profiles on WikiTree.

I'll email you.

posted by Dave Rutherford

It's time for a six month Military and War Project check-in with all members. Have you been active in the last six months? Please note that it is a requirement for membership in the Military and War Project that you respond to these check-ins. To make bookkeeping easier, just click Reply to this message on your own page, add your reply, then SAVE. I look forward to hearing from you..

Many thanks,

Mary~ Project Coordinator, Military and War Project

posted by Mary Richardson
Hi Mary,

I'm still interested in the project. My main area of interest is identifying and adding members of the Upper Canada Militia in the War of 1812.


posted by Dave Rutherford
Thanks Dave for replying to the Military and War check in, I have marked you Active. The War of 1812, makes sense, as that was a big project for so many.


posted by Mary Richardson
I just added sourced marriage record for Lester Gerolamy Bowles and Dorothy Louise Magee, that connects him to the very large Dods family of Alton, Ontario. I also added one living child for them, as I am in touch with her. She intends to send photos of her grandparents that I will then add to WT.
posted by M Ross
This is wonderful. Lester is a second cousin, once removed. My mother was a Bowles. I see the connection to the Dods was in Caledon, Peel, just down the road from where the Bowles clan settled. I look forward to seeing the photos. Thank you!
posted by Dave Rutherford
Have you seen this? It is in the Perkins Bull collection now available on Archive.org


posted by M Ross
I've been meaning to find the time to carefully go through the Bull files. I did not realize that my grandfather had completed the survey for Bull. Thanks for pointing this out!
posted by Dave Rutherford
Hi Dave,

I've identified another family branch for the Palantine designation. This is the Eck branch. Jacobus Egg/Eck (Eck-161) , brought his family to Philadelphia, on Sept 23, 1741, aboard the Marlborough, captained by Thomas Bell, Master.

The name references in Strassburger are strange, only the father is listed as Johan Jacob Buck with an umlaut over the "u". In the Daniel Rupp reference a 'Johann Jacob ICK" is listed.

There also appear to be duplicates on the wife of Jacobus Eck (the original immigrant (Eck-161). Anna Margaret Kilcher (Kilcher-2 )and Anna Margaret Eck (Eck-110) seem to be the same person. They are currently under consideration for merging.

I couldn't decipher the signatures but will continue looking and trying.

Thanks for your help. Judy

Thanks Judy. I'll add these folks to the project.
posted by Dave Rutherford
Thanks for your feedback David.

However what you say is all well and good, but the reality is that I have misplaced many of the researched notes that I made. I saved them, and placedthem into a basement here within Poland when we emigrated. Thus I am new to the site, have lost access to my old online trees, and are in the slow process of rebuilding the tree, and occasionally I find a individual that I know that I have recorded the history from painstaking hour's in the archives. Slowly I am unearthing my notes about the source material to better reference it. In the meantime I am making the skeleton of my tree, and inviting my cousin's to help fill in the Swiss cheese holes. Most of the searches were done between 2006 and 2008 after building up a indicator of the shape from dodgy sites like the LDS, and took many hours to prove or adjust in the actual county archives. I spent days in Matlock, two days in March, Cambridgeshire. Was on first names with the lady at Abingdon family history centre, and was in and out of Nottingham archive's too. Other searches have been done by my late father and cousins on both sides of the clan. Many of the foot soldiers, including my father and his two sisters have since died. We created a single name search group for Calladines, and I hope many may start to join your site now... Again I am laying out the bones to email different surviving member's - but its the children now, not the original team... Please be assured that I am not compounding errors and will go back to add additional sources when my notes come to light, or my cousins upload thier own gedcoms - mine is stuck in windows 8 and I cant convert it yet. Likewise its nice to see that the site has some monitors looking out, and all my notes now are open to scrutiny, so I am happy that you noticed. David.

posted by David Calladine
Hello Dave. I have requested a merge that seams to be held up due to last name at birth issues, that could use help from the Palatine Migration Project. Oury-9 and Urich-118 appear to be the same person but need more documentation to settle on the correct last name. Your help would be greatly appreciated, thank you.
posted by Pat Songe
I don't actually see any evidence for either Urich or Oury. The name is Ory on the ship lists I found for the Pricess Auguata. And his marriage record from Alsace uses the spelling Ori. That is the earliest sourced spelling found for him, so I will change the LNAB to Ori and complete the merge into that.
posted by Dave Rutherford
Thank you very much on the merge into Ori-8, the profile looks great. This leads to another issue that maybe you can assist with. Right now, there is an unmerged match of his daughter, Urich-117 and Oubre-101, another LNAB issue. Can you assist?
posted by Pat Songe
This looks more complicated. Not just the LNAB's are different here. They have different dates and even different given names. I will add them to the Palatine project, but I am wondering if the Louisiana Families or the Huguenot Projects might be a better fit. I'll reach out to them about this.
posted by Dave Rutherford
I ran across an online document (link below) which suggests that Justin Trudeau (Trudeau-195) is related to Fidel Castro (Ruz-1).

This analysis has the common distant ancestor is ALFONSO CASTILLA VII (1105-1157), Castilla-99, who seems to be their 20-something-great grandfather.

By one wife Alfonso had daughter SANCHA (1154-1208, Castilla-102), and her line goes eventually to the Trudeaus. By another wife he had another daughter URRACA (1133-1179,Castilla-103), her descendants go eventually to Fidel Castro. Alfonso also had a son, FERNANDO (1137-1188, Castilla-107), whose descendants add to the mix.

If that chart is right, link below, it appears Justin (Trudeau-195) and Fidel (Run-1) would be twenty-something cousins?


I tried checking WikiTree for Ruz-1 “connected to” Trudeau-195, that didn’t work, I think because both lines do not yet have profiles that far back.

I posted the link in comments on Justin's profile.

FWIW, just tossing it out there.

posted by John Mueller
edited by John Mueller
Hi John,

This connection is pure fiction. I've answered more thoroughly on Justin's page.

All the best,


posted by Dave Rutherford
Hi, I'm fairly new to Wikitree and so not comfortable with the ways to navigate Wikitree, but trying to learn. I believe my ancestor,

Matthäus (Heinle) Heinly (abt. 1697 - 1773) Heinle-62 and his son David Heinly Heinly-8 arived in Philadelphia on the ship Patience. Does that qualify them for the Palantine project?

I always appreciate your help and if I should be communicating in some other way, please let me know.

Thank you, Judy Luckenbill Brett (Luckenbill-68)

Hi Judy,

Yes, this man and his entire family are indeed Palatine Migrants. I will add them to the project shortly.


posted by Dave Rutherford
Thank you for your help with the Gunterman/Countryman line!
Greetings Dave, you made a wife change on Johannes Adam Beckenbach, which means he married her at 59 years old. I'm thinking the wife you took off was his First wife, then you put in the 2nd wife. Just cuz, TomT 1952
posted by Thomas Teters
edited by Thomas Teters
Hi Tom,

I completed some Beckenbach merges the other day. I'll take a look again and send you a private message.

posted by Dave Rutherford
We do what we can and I love all the cousins that I've found here on Wikitree.
posted by Ricco Renzetti
Yes, WikiTree is a wonderful way to find new cousins. Thanks for all the folks that you are adding to the Teeter tree.
posted by Dave Rutherford
Thanks for merging Joseph and Jemima Burleigh! Much appreciated. 🙂
This Bruner family Johann Jacob Brunner (1703-1783) may be Palatine migrants, looking at birth place, dates, death place.
posted by Jane (Snell) Copes
Yes indeed. I will add them.

Thanks for the catch!

posted by Dave Rutherford
Thanks SO much for your careful work on the Palatine Migration project. Lots of "my" profiles have needed pruning and merging, and the extra authority of a project is a good catalyst for getting the work done. Best of the new year. Stay safe and well and busy. Jane
posted by Jane (Snell) Copes
Thank you Jane. And thanks for joining and helping with our project.

I hope that you have a very happy New Year!


posted by Dave Rutherford