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Mary (Ryan) Dove (abt. 1811 - 1865)

Mary Dove formerly Ryan
Born about in County Galway, Irelandmap
Daughter of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Wife of — married 11 Feb 1839 in Hobart Town, Van Diemen's Land, Australiamap
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 54 in Hobart, Tasmania, Australiamap
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Biography

Mary was born circa 1811 in County Galway Ireland.

Unknown Ryan was born to Mary, either in Ireland or most likely London before 11 Apr 1833 when Mary was tried for stealing. Witness Bridget Key - On Thursday, the 27th of February, Ryan came to me, and asked me to mind her child, as she was going to sell some fruit.[1] [no further records found]

Proceedings of the Old Bailey, 11 Apr 1833[1]: Mary Ryan and Mary Lee were both arrested and charged for theft/pickpocketing. The offence occurred on 1st March 1833. Both women were aged 21 years. She and Mary Lee were charged with stealing 4 sovereigns and 5 shillings from Jim Carlier, a silk weaver. Carlier met Mary Lee in the street, went to a pub to drink gin, she invited him home. Mary Ryan was in bed in the room. She got up and put her gown on. Carlier invited her to have some ale and gave her some money (she said). Mary Lee stole money from Carlier in the room, then left, telling Mary Ryan to get the man out. Next morning he found both in a public house, Lee had part of the money on her. Mary Ryan also had money and she bragged to a shopkeeper that she had money to buy a bonnet, that she had taken money and tobacco from a man saying “I got his tobacco as well, I always clear them out”. She denied being involved in the robbery. Mary Ryan said she only met Mary Lee 4 days before and Lee invited her to share her lodgings. Both were found guilty and sentenced to transportation for 14 years to Van Diemen's Land. Both women were Irish and spoke Gaelic.

The two women were transferred from Hicks Hall [Clerkenwell Green Sessions House] to the convict ship William Bryan and were received in a state of good health.[2] The ship departed 10 May 1833 and Mary stayed in good health, avoiding cholera and dysentery, until near the end of the voyage when she was placed on the sick list (19-28 October) as suffering from catarrh [respiratory illness].[3]

Description[4]
Origin Co. Galway.
Occupation Nursemaid and needlewoman. Aged 22.
Complexion freckled and fresh; head oval; hair very dark brown; forehead high; eyebrows brown, thin; eyes hazel; nose medium length; mouth medium length; chin medium length. Remarks; arms and hands freckled.

Conduct Record Police No. 135 [5]
Nov.15 1834 Haywood/ Being far advanced in pregnancy and consequently unfit for her service, ordered to be returned to the Female House of Correction/E.D/
April 19 1836 Hutton/Absent without leave, Reprimanded/P.S/
June 22 1836 Hutton/ Absent from her service, Crime Class [see Research Notes] for 3 months and was again assigned to be in the Interior/P.S/
Nov. 28 1836 Roberts/ Absconding, Crime Class 3 months/P.S/ T.L. 27/5/4…?
September 14 1842 ………..? Disturbing the Peace, Fined 5 shillings/P.M/
Recommended to the Queen for a C.P. 15 Dec 1843.
Approved Vide Gazette 14th July 1845 Extended 7/10/45
Free Certificate 12 April 1847.

William Ryan, from the Factory, a convict's child, age 3 months, was buried 22 June 1835.[6]

Eliza Ryan, born 20 Feb 1837 at the Cascades and baptised at St Joseph's Hobart 5 Aug 1837, Sponsor-Mary Fitzpatrick[7]

Marriage to William Dove 11 Feb 1839[8] William Dove, 30 years, butcher & Mary Ryan, 28 years, 11 Feb 1839. Wtn: James Johnson, R. Household. Parish Church of Trinity according to the Rites and ceremonies of the Church of England

Children
1839[9] Maria was born 17 days after her parents marriage
1841[10] William
1843[11] Samuel

Mary died 16 Nov 1865[12]: Mary Ann Dove, born Ireland, Drayman’s wife, age 56 years, died Collins St. Hobart. Congestion of liver, jaundice.

Research Notes[13]
Crime Class was for 3rd Class prisoners for insolence, drunkenness, AWL, i.e. the worst convicts. They were given hard labour, meagre diet, clothes were labelled with a large yellow C. The Female factory aimed to keep convicts with different classes of crime separate; there were 3 levels: 3rd class or Crime Class, 2nd Class or Probation Class (minor crimes, or pregnant); and 1st Class or Assignable Class, awaiting assignment.

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 https://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?div=t18330411-130
  2. https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/browse/r/h/C10536863
  3. https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C10536861
  4. https://stors.tas.gov.au/CON19-1-14$init=CON19-1-14p195
  5. https://stors.tas.gov.au/CON40-1-7$init=CON40-1-7p304
  6. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89CH-7W5Y?i=176&cc=2125029&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AQ27M-TBRT
  7. Female Convicts in Van Diemen's Land database
  8. "Australia, Tasmania, Civil Registration, 1803-1933," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q279-9YTH : 3 October 2018), William Dove and Mary Ryan, 11 Feb 1839; citing Marriage 11 Feb 1839, Hobart, Tasmania, Australia, line #8787, Archives Office of Tasmania, Hobart; FHL microfilm 7,368,152.
  9. RGD 32/1/3 no 203, #606 Maria born 28 Feb 1839 to William & Mary Dove of Hobart Town. Bapt 7 Apr 1839 Parish of Trinity
  10. RGD 32/1/3 no 1775, #808 William born 25 Nov1841 to William (labourer) & Mary Dove of Bathurst St. Bapt 2 Jan 1842 Parish of Trinity
  11. RGD 33/1/1, #1517 Samuel born 6 Jun 1843 to William (carter) & Mary Dove, formerly Ryan, Bapt Holy Trinity, no date
  12. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9CH-W7TZ?i=39&cc=2125029&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AQ27M-YT3T
  13. https://www.femaleconvicts.org.au/index.php/convict-institutions/female-factories/cascades-ff




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William Dove, of Bethnal Green, and Mary Ryan had three children: Maria Theresa m. Thomas Fletcher (they had 11 children); William m. Margaret Bignell (no issue) ; Samuel Thomas m Margaret Cuthbert (they had 4 daughters). William, Snr, was literate (as per his court record) and signed his marriage document with his name.

The other William Dove, from Norfolk, who was in Hobart at the same time, m. Sarah Stanhope/Stammers/Stanfield/Stanforth and also had three children: Sarah Ann m. Charles Gaylor; William John 1845-1846; Henrietta Emily m. Francis Mason. He was illiterate and signed his will in 1866 with his mark. (Ref: Archives Office of Tasmania - Wills: Dove, William, 1866 - AD960/6; p388; No.1199).

posted by Jay H.
edited by Jay H.
The "William Bryan" sailed up the Derwent River on 23/10/1833. It had departed London on 4/7/1833. On board was Mary Ryan, aged 22, (bc.1811) of County Galway, who was tried at Middlesex on 11/4/1833 for stealing from a person and sentenced to 14 years transportation. Aboard the same ship was an infant named Edward Ryan “or Bearns” who was recorded on the muster of the Female House of Correction from October 1833 (aged 14 months), to March 1834. He died on 9 May 1834, aged 22 months, “Convict’s child”. The Tasmania Archives have him linked to Mary Ryan ( RGD34/1/1 no.3398). I think it is safe to assume Edward was the child given into the care of Bridget Key, on 27th Feb, 1833, two days before the incident for which Mary was tried at the Old Bailey, and sentenced to transportation.

The Archives do not have Eliza Ryan linked to Mary, nor was Mary incarcerated at the Female Factory in 1837, as she would surely have been if pregnant, just as she was in 1834.

I am a descendant of William Dove, of Bethnal Green, and his wife, Mary Ryan.

posted by Jay H.
edited by Jay H.
Ryan-12311 and Ryan-5415 do not represent the same person because: different husbands
posted by Aline Barbeau

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