Friedrich Salzmann (1893 - 1980)

Born 18 Jul 1893 in Grimm, Saratov, Russia

Ancestors

Husband of Maria (Rusch) Saltzmann — married 23 Dec 1915 in Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States

Died 26 Jul 1980 at age 87 in Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States

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Biography

Fred Salzmann was a Volga German.

Fred Salzmann has German Roots.

Family #659 in the 1897 Grimm census.

1897 Grimm Census ^[1]

See Grandchild #6 in the entry below.

Family # 659

Head of the Household Christian Jakob Saltzmann, age 66

Wife Christina Margaretha Saltzmann, age 63

Child #1 Peter Saltzmann, age 41,

Wife of Child #1 Elisabetha [Fritzler] Saltzmann, age 40

Grandchild #1 Katharina Elisabeth Saltzmann, age 19, single, resides in Saratov

Grandchild #2 Elisabeth Saltzmann, age 18, single resides in Saratov

Grandchild #3 Jakob Saltzmann, age 12

Grandchild #4 Charlotta Saltzmann, age 10

Grandchild #5 Margaretha Saltzmann, age 8

Grandchild #6 Friedrich Saltzmann, age 3

Grandchild #7 Maria Saltzmann, age 1

Child #2 Jakob Saltzmann, age 38

Wife of Child #2 Margaretha Saltzmann, age 37

Grandchild #8 Emilia Saltzmann, age 12

Grandchild #9 Christian Jakob Saltzmann, age 10

Grandchild #10 Margaretha Saltzmann, age 8

Grandchild #11 Friedrich Saltzmann, age 1, twin

Grandchild #12 Maria Saltzmann, age 1, twin

Child #3 Heinrich Saltzmann, age 25, single, in military service

Child #4 Maria Saltzmann, age 21, single, resides in the city of Saratov

Pennsylvania, Philadelphia Passenger Lists ^[2]

Name: Friedrich Saltzmann

Event Type: Immigration

Event Date: 1912

Event Place: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States

Gender: Male

Age: 18

Birth Year (Estimated): 1894

Birthplace: Russia

Ship Name: Haverford

Marriage Record ^[3]

Name Fred Salzman

Age 22

Birth Year (Estimated) 1893

Birth Date 1893

Spouse's Name Mary Rusch

Spouse's Age 19

Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated) 1896

Spouse's Birth Date 1896

License Type Marriage

Event Date 23 Dec 1915

Event Place Chicago, Cook, Illinois

Birth Record for Son Friedrich Salzmann Jr. ^[4]

Name Friedrick [sic] Salzmann

Gender Male

Wife Maria Rusch

Son Friedrick Salzmann

Event Type Birth

Event Date 22 Jul 1916

Event Place , Cook, Illinois, United States

Registration Place , Cook, Illinois

Gender Male

Father's Name Friedrick Salzmann

Mother's Name Maria Rusch

Certificate Number 24408

Death Record for Unnamed Daughter ^[5]

Friedrich Salzmann must have been a twin. That twin was a girl, and she only survived for a day.

Name Salzmann

Event Type Death

Event Date 23 Jul 1916

Event Place Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States

Gender Female

Age 0

Marital Status Single

Race White

Birth Daet 22 Jul 1916

Birthplace Chicago, , Illinois

Funeral Home T H Donoghue

Burial Date 24 Jul 1916

Cemetery Waldheim

Father's Name Fred Salzmann

Mother's Name Mary Rouse [sic] Rausch

Informant's Name Fred Salzmann

1920 United States Federal Census ^[6]

Name: Fred Salzman [Fred Salsman]

Age: 26

Birth Year: abt 1894

Birthplace: Russia

Home in 1920: Chicago Ward 28, Cook (Chicago), Illinois

Street: North Mozart. St

House Number: 1921

Residence Date: 1920

Race: White

Gender: Male

Relation to Head of House: Head

Marital Status: Married

Spouse's Name: Mary Salzman

Father's Birthplace: Russia

Mother's Birthplace: Russia

Native Tongue: Hebrew [sic] German

Able to Speak English: Yes

Occupation: Machine

Industry: Foote Bros

Employment Field: Wage or Salary

Home Owned or Rented: Rent

Naturalization Status:Alien

Neighbors: View others on page

Household Members: Name Age

Fred Salzman 26

Mary Salzman 24

Elinor Salzman 1

Birth Record for Son Roland Salzmann ^[7]

This record confirms the names of his parents and reveals the maiden name of his mother.

Name Roland Eberhard Salzmann

Event Type Birth

Event Date 30 Apr 1922

Event Place Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States

Event Place (Original) Chicago

Registration Place , Cook, Illinois

Gender Male

Father's Name Fred Salzmann

Father's Age 28

Father's Estimated Birth Year 1894

Mother's Name Maria Rusch

Mother's Age 26

Mother's Estimated Birth Year 1896

Certificate Number 17041

Birth Record for Son Clifford Salzmann ^[8]

Name Clifford Salzman

Event Type Birth

Event Date 31 Aug 1928

Event Place Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States

Registration Date 07 Sep 1928

Registration Place , Cook, Illinois

Gender Male

Race White

Father's Name Fred Salzman

Father's Birthplace Russia

Father's Age 35

Father's Estimated Birth Year 1893

Mother's Name Marie Rusch

Mother's Birthplace Russia

Mother's Age 32

Mother's Estimated Birth Year 1896

Certificate Number 38758

1930 United States Federal Census ^[9]

Name: Peter Salzmann

Birth Year: abt 1856

Gender: Male

Race: White

Birthplace: Russia

Marital Status: Married

Relation to Head of House: Father

Home in 1930: Chicago, Cook, Illinois, USA

Map of Home: View Map

Street address: Armitage Avenue

Ward of City: 38

Block: 507

House Number: 2814

Dwelling Number: 37

Family Number: 83

Lives on Farm: No

Age at First Marriage: 20

Attended School: No

Able to Read and Write: Yes

Father's Birthplace: Russia

Mother's Birthplace: Russia

Language Spoken: German

Immigration Year: 1912

Naturalization: Alien

Able to Speak English: No

Household Members: Name Age

Fred Salzmann 36

Marie Salzmann 34

Elenore E Salzmann 11

Rowland A Salzmann 7

Clifford F Salzmann 1

Peter Salzmann 74

Lizzie Salzmann 74

Naturalization Papers ^[10]

Name: Fred Salzmann [Friedrich Saltzman]

Gender: Male

Record Type: Declaration

Birth Date: 18 Jul 1893

Birth Place: Grimm, Russia

Arrival date: 1 May 1912

Arrival Place: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

Spouse: Marie

Declaration Number: 128663

1940 United States Federal Census ^[11]

Name: Fred Salzmann

Age: 46

Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894

Gender: Male

Race: White

Birthplace: Russia

Marital Status: Married

Relation to Head of House: Head

Home in 1940: Chicago, Cook, Illinois

Map of Home in 1940: View Map

Street: W Thomas Street

House Number: 2136

Farm: No

Inferred Residence in 1935: Chicago, Cook, Illinois

Residence in 1935: Same House

Citizenship: Having first papers

Sheet Number: 5A

Number of Household in Order of Visitation: 87

Occupation: Machinist

Industry: Gas Cutting

House Owned or Rented: Owned

Value of Home or Monthly Rental if Rented: 3000

Attended School or College: No

Highest Grade Completed: Elementary school, 8th grade

Hours Worked Week Prior to Census: 40

Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker in private work

Weeks Worked in 1939: 36

Income: 1224

Income Other Sources: No

Neighbors: View others on page

Household Members: Name Age

Fred Salzmann 46

Marie Salzmann 44

Elenore Salzmann 21

Roland Salzmann 17

Clifford Salzmann 11

Illinois, Northern District (Eastern Division), Naturalization Index ^[12]

Name Fred Salzmann

Event Type Naturalization

Event Year 1940

Event Place Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States

Age 47

Birth Year (Estimated) 1893

World War II Draft Registration Card ^[13]

Name Fred Salzmann

Event Type Draft Registration

Event Date 1942

Event Place Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States

Residence Place Chicago, Cook, Illinois

Gender Male

Employer Fred/Salzmann

Birth Date 18 Jul 1893

Notes

This record confirms that he was born in Grimm and that his wife's name was Marie.

Death Record for Wife Marie Rusch Saltzmann ^[14]

Name Marie Salzmann

Event Type Death

Event Date 11 May 1965

Event Place Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States

Address 2136 W Thomas Street

Gender Female

Age 69

Marital Status Married

Race White

Occupation Housewife

Birth Date 01 Jan 1896

Birthplace , , Russia

Funeral Home Henry V Mueller

Burial Date 14 May 1965

Burial Place Chicago, , Illinois

Cemetery St Lucas Cemetery

Father's Name Jacob Rusch

Mother's Name Christina Crosch [sic] Grosch

Spouse's Name Fred Salzmann

Informant's Name Fred Salzmann

Entry Number 33151

United States Social Security Death Index ^[15]

Age 87

Given Name Fred

Surname Salzmann

Birth Date 18 Jul 1893

State Illinois

Last Place of Residence Cook, Illinois

Previous Residence Postal Code 60622

Event Date Jul 1980

Illinois, Cook County Deaths ^[16]

Name Fred Salzmann

Event Type Death

Event Date 26 Jul 1980

Event Place Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States

Residence Place 2136 W Thomas Street

Gender Male

Age 87

Marital Status Widowed

Race White

Occupation Foreman

Birth Date 18 Jul 1893

Birthplace , , Russia

Funeral Home Henry W Mueller Funeral Home

Burial Date 29 Jul 1980

Burial Place Chicago, Cook, Illinois

Cemetery Saint Lucas Cemetery

Father's Name Peter Salzmann

Mother's Name Elizabeth Fritzler

Informant's Name Tina Meber

Entry Number 616274

Research Notes

There is confusion over Friedrich's heritage on other websites, and he is linked to the wrong father and grandfather. Very thorough research has confirmed the identify of his parents and grandparents as are indicated in this profile and that of his connected father and grandfather.

Please do not connect him to different parents before reviewing the documentation and consulting with the profile manager.

Friedrich "Fred" Saltzmann is the son of Johann Peter Saltzmann and Elisabeth Fritzler, as noted in his death record. His grandfather was Christian Jakob Saltzmann, and his great grandfather was Johann Peter Saltzmann.

• His father was not Georg Peter Saltzmann. Georg Peter and Johann Peter were first cousins; their fathers were brothers. They are direct line descendants in the only Saltzmann family in Grimm, Russia. Although they are closely related, they are different people.

• Although Georg Peter Saltzmann married a woman named Elisabeth, she is not the Elisabeth Fritzler referenced in Friedrich Saltzmann's death record.

• Based on immigration and census records from Russia and the United States, Georg Peter Saltzmann did not have a son named Friedrich born in 1894 in Grimm, Russia, who immigrated to the United States in the early 1900s.

• Friedrich's grandfather was not Johann Adam Saltzmann.

For a more detailed discussion about the co-mingling of resources for these men, see his father's profile, Johann Peter Saltzmann.

Sources

1. ↑ 1897 Grimm (Lesnoi Karamysh), Russia Census List, Translated by Richard Rye, Compiled and Edited by John Groh, Contributor Henry Schmick; American Historical Society of Germans from Russia, Lincoln, Nebraska, USA; Published 2017; page 209, family #659.
2. ↑ "Pennsylvania, Philadelphia Passenger Lists, 1883-1945," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:23QY-G52 : 12 March 2018), Friedrich Saltzmann, 1912; citing Immigration, NARA microfilm publication T840 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.); FHL microfilm 1,402,601.
3. ↑ "Illinois, Cook County Marriages, 1871-1920," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N7ZF-37M : 10 March 2018), Fred Salzman and Mary Rusch, 23 Dec 1915; citing Chicago, Cook, Illinois, 716099, Cook County Courthouse, Chicago; FHL microfilm 1,030,611.
4. ↑ "Illinois, Cook County, Birth Certificates, 1871-1940," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N794-WNR : 18 May 2016), Friedrick Salzmann in entry for Friedrick Salzmann, 22 Jul 1916; , Cook, Illinois, United States, reference/certificate 24408, Cook County Clerk, Cook County Courthouse, Chicago; FHL microfilm 1,308,609.
5. ↑ "Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1878-1994," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2MQ-BQDW : 8 March 2018), Fred Salzmann in entry for Salzmann, 23 Jul 1916; citing Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States, source reference 20348, record number , Cook County Courthouse, Chicago; FHL microfilm 1,276,303.
6. ↑ 1920 United States Federal Census, Year: 1920; Census Place: Chicago Ward 28, Cook (Chicago), Illinois; Roll: T625_344; Page: 3A; Enumeration District: 1724, Fred Salzman, age 26, born in Russia; Ancestry.com online database, accessed 07 July 2023.
7. ↑ "Illinois, Cook County, Birth Certificates, 1871-1940," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N73B-8X8 : 18 May 2016), Fred Salzmann in entry for Roland Eberhard Salzmann, 30 Apr 1922; Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States, reference/certificate 17041, Cook County Clerk, Cook County Courthouse, Chicago; FHL microfilm 1,379,109.
8. ↑ "Illinois, Cook County, Birth Certificates, 1871-1940," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKDC-8ZSF : 18 May 2016), Fred Salzman in entry for Clifford Salzman, 31 Aug 1928; Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States, reference/certificate 38758, Cook County Clerk, Cook County Courthouse, Chicago; FHL microfilm .
9. ↑ 1930 United States Federal Census, Year: 1930; Census Place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois; Page: 4B; Enumeration District: 2745; FHL microfilm: 2340207, Peter Salzmann, born about 1856 in Russia; Ancestry.com online database, accessed 07 July 2023.
10. ↑ National Archives at Chicago; Chicago, Illinois; ARC Title: Petitions for Naturalization, 1906 - 1991; NAI Number: 6756404; Record Group Title: Records of District Courts of the United States, 1685-2009; Record Group Number: RG 21, Fred Salzmann, born 18 July 1893 in Grimm, Russia; Ancestry.com online database, accessed 07 July 2023.
11. ↑ 1940 United States Federal Census, Year: 1940; Census Place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois; Roll: m-t0627-00974; Page: 5A; Enumeration District: 103-.681, Fred Salzmann, age 46, born in Russia; Ancestry.com online database, accessed 07 July 2023.
12. ↑ "Illinois, Northern District (Eastern Division), Naturalization Index, 1926-1979," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2HRM-CK3 : 8 November 2017), Fred Salzmann, 1940; citing Naturalization, Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States, National Archives and Records Administration, Great Lakes Region, Chicago.
13. ↑ "United States World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V1KF-9CC : 9 March 2018), Fred Salzmann, 1942; citing NARA microfilm publication M1936, M1937, M1939, M1951, M1962, M1964, M1986, M2090, and M2097 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.).
14. ↑ "Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1878-1994," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2MX-W2PS : 18 March 2018), Fred Salzmann in entry for Marie Salzmann, 11 May 1965; citing Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States, source reference , record number , Cook County Courthouse, Chicago; FHL microfilm.
15. ↑ "United States Social Security Death Index," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JRKR-3NP : 20 May 2014), Fred Salzmann, Jul 1980; citing U.S. Social Security Administration, Death Master File, database (Alexandria, Virginia: National Technical Information Service, ongoing).
16. ↑ "Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1878-1994," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q23W-ZHY5 : 18 March 2018), Fred Salzmann, 26 Jul 1980; citing Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States, source reference , record number , Cook County Courthouse, Chicago; FHL microfilm .