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Elizabeth Red Fern Blackhawk (abt. 1730 - abt. 1780)

Elizabeth Red Fern Blackhawk
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Died about at about age 50 [location unknown]
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Due to undocumented claims that this profile represents a) a Native American person, and b) wife of a documented early settler of Pennsylvania and North Carolina, this profile is being tracked and co-managed by WikiTree's Native Americans Project.

Disputed Existence

A previous version of this profile claimed that this woman was the daughter of Sparrow Hawk/Black Hawk and Asshewaqua/Singing Bird. This couple lived in what is now Illinois and had no connection to, or a daughter, in North Carolina. She has been detached.

There is a family tradition that Johann Wendell Mueller or Miller had a common-law marriage with Red Fawn/Fern (she also is listed with the names Na Me Qua, Tikodiddie, Hawk, and Blackhawk), supposed daughter of a chief by the name of Thunder Black Hawk and his wife Abee Red Fern. The tradition goes on to claim that Red Fawn and Mueller had children together and that she is the wife who died of smallpox along with an infant grandson and was buried with him.

The story seems to arise from Michael Miller's (grandson of Johann Wendell Mueller/Wendell Miller) statement included with the Revolutionary War pension application for his father, Frederick Miller, the son of Wendell Miller. Frederick stated in his application that he was born about 1756. Michael deposed:

"I know of no private record anywhere of the marriage of my parents. ... They were married as I have always heard and believed in Rowan County, North Carolina in 1778 or 1779 and that my father the above named Frederick Miller served in the Revolutionary war after they were married and that on his return home either final or on furlough I do not remember Which he brought the smallpox and gave it to their oldest child named John and that his mother came to see them and died with the same disease and that she and the child were buried together." [1]

A message board post on Ancestry.com says "Red Fern (Na Me Qua) Blackhawk was one of my great grandmothers. I do not believe she and Mr. Johann Wendell Miller were ever married. I, also, am not sure of her birth and death dates since her father Chief Blackhawk was born in 1767 and died in 1838, however she left or was asked to leave Mr. Miller, she went to see her son Fredrick in Virginia. She died of small pox as did Frederick's infant son. They were buried in Miller Cemetery North Carolina, she holding her grandson. She does not have a marker its just marked old grave. It was told Mr. Miller favored his white kids. I would love to obtain a huge marker for her, bigger than Mr. Miller but I am not wealthy enough. Her brother Wrilling Thunder was born in 1780 so I'm thinking she was born about that time too. By the way Blackhawk was a SAC (whatever that was) Indian not Cherokee. His tribe actually fought Cherokees. I have lots of information on him. He and his wife Singing Bird had 5 kids, 2 died young."[2]

An earlier researcher also claimed to have found evidence that she married or was a common law wife secondly to Jacob Austin Davis, by whom she had four children: Winnie, Jacob, Henry and Elizabeth.[citation needed]

However, there is no evidence this woman or her parents ever existed. There are no records in Pennsylvania which show that Wendell Mueller married before he moved to North Carolina. He certainly did not have an Indian wife when he lived in Lancaster, PA. Wendell wrote a very clear will naming his wife and all his children (and some of their spouses) in 1804. Transcript at will

Sources

  1. National Archives and Records Administration, NARA M804. Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty-Land Warrant Application Files. Roll:1724. Revolutionary War pension #W8460, Frederick Miller; digitized on Fold3: Michael
  2. Carol511141; posted to Ancestry.com 20 May 2015.




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Sauk-15 and Blackhawk-28 appear to represent the same person because: Clearly meant to be the same woman
posted by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
THE "TRUE" Elizabeth GREER is Elizabeth Greer-Davice BORN 1723- d/o John Greer and Sarah (Day) Greer married to Jacob DAVICE (sic). not sure where/HOW the "Greer" found its way into this American Indians profile????? thank you for deleting it.

FROM familysearch.com TREE "When Elizabeth Greer Naktika Redfern was born in 1723, in Gunpowder, Baltimore, Maryland, British Colonial America, her father, Chief Thunder Black Hawk, was 23 and her mother, Abbee Redfern, was 13. She married Jacob Davis on 6 February 1745, in Saint Johns Parish, Baltimore, Maryland, British Colonial America. They were the parents of at least 6 sons and 3 daughters. She died in 1781, in Baltimore, Baltimore, Maryland, United States, at the age of 58, and was buried in Baltimore, Maryland, United States. TREE no source] There is an Elizabeth Greer who married Jacob Davice-6 in St. John's Parish (copy attached to his profile), AND they have children, 1 daughter, Mary Davis BEFORE I LINKED her thought I would let you decide........ thank you

posted by Carole Taylor
edited by Carole Taylor
This is just junk genealogy. There is no evidence any of these people ever existed, there certainly weren't any Indians living just outside of Baltimore in 1723. It looks like someone has tried to convert a real woman, Elizabeth Greer, into some sort of Indian. There was never anyone named Elizabeth Red Fern Blackhawk. This profile is correctly marked as that of a non-exisitant person.
posted by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
There is evidence through research of existing family members that Wendel Miller did indeed have children by a Native American Woman he called a Common Law Wife. He did not meet this wife until going to Rowan County, North Carolina-not Pennsylvania. She is thought to be of Cherokee Ancestry. DNA evidence shows Native American Heritage in the Ancestors of these offspring. If you have questions, I would suggest you test at FTDNA and then join the Rowan Miller Group. These descendants all live in and around Rowan County, North Carolina.
posted by Cheri Gates
edited by Cheri Gates
The Miller DNA study is for men who are Miller descendants, it cannot show a connection to a Native American woman 300 years ago. All of the men tested have European paternal and maternal DNA haplogroups. The text on the site mentions the family story but provides no evidence or documentation to support the claim.
posted by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
The group I am referring to is not a Male only DNA group. It is a research group that is run by descendants of Wendel Miller and Red Fern. There are several published books in the Library in Salisbury, North Carolina with a lot of sourced information concerning this family. They meet once a year for a weekly seminar. If you would like the contact information, I would be more then happy to give it to you. I am related to these people as well.
posted by Cheri Gates
The Sac and Fox tribe lived in the upper mid-west, what is now Michigan, until forcibly removed to Indian Territory after the Civil War.
posted by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
There is no evidence this woman ever existed. Wendell Mueller was a single young man when he arrived in North Carolina. He certainly did not have an Indian wife when he lived in Lancaster, PA. Wendell wrote a very clear will naming his wife and all his children (and some of their spouses) in 1804. Son Frederick was born in Rowan County, NC in 1756 as stated on his Revolutionary War pension application. He made no mention of his parent's names. The Indian story seems to be based on a statement of Frederick's son (Wendell's grandson), Michael, made in 1853 when he was about 70. He says only that he had been told that his parents, Frederick and Margaret Braun Miller, had a son named John several years before he, Michael was born and that the child died as an infant of smallpox, acquired from his grandmother who also died and was buried with the baby. There is no mention of any name for the grandmother, or any suggestion that she was a Native American. She may have been Rosanna Brown, Margaret's stepmother, since Wendell's wife Christina Fisher Miller was alive and well in 1804 (although she may have been a second wife). It's also possible that Michael was simply mistaken about the family story since his parents were married in May of 1779 and he had at least one older sibling, a sister Margaret born about 1781.

Here is a link to Michael Miller's statement (part of his father's Revolutionary War pension application) on Fold3: https://www.fold3.com/image/25107115

It says: "I know of no private record anywhere of the marriage of my parents. ... They were married as I have always heard and believed in Rowan County, North Carolina in 1778 or 1779 and that my father the above named Frederick Miller served in the Revolutionary war after they were married and that on his return home either final or on furlough I do not remember Which he brought the smallpox and gave it to their oldest child named John and that his mother came to see them and died with the same disease and that she and the child were buried together." Frederick Miller's mother, Christina, was alive and well in 1804 when his father died, so she cannot be the "mother" buried with Frederick's son.

posted by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
edited by Kathie (Parks) Forbes

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