Elizabeth (Saunders) Redman (abt. 1810 - bef. 1840)

Elizabeth Saunders’s birth date was given as 1787 or 1790.

The marriage record and the 1830 Census for Richmond County, GA, are the only records of Elizabeth I have found. The 1830 census names only heads of households, but it says that the wife of George W. Redman was between 20 and 30 years old. I place her birth then at 1800 - 1810. That is also closer to her husband’s in 1806.

Saunders-12871 and Saunders-3071 appear to represent the same person because: Hello, Walter . . . I've been reading your email and making some corrections to the profiles. I think it's best to merge these two Elizabeth's . . . what do you think? These Saunders/Sanders are an absolute mess! I appreciate your help very much. If you don't want to merge right now, perhaps we can save them as an unmerged match while we do some more digging . . . Christine

Note that James Saunders’s children in the Tennessee Supreme Court case are the same as the ones he said in his will were from his second marriage.

Note further that in that will he wrote, “My children by my first wife I leave out of this will altogether.” Below is a transcription of a letter written by James’s grandson Augustus Saunders Redman to his sisters. My tree at Ancestry includes an image of the original letter.

https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/41398908/person/19620603971/gallery?galleryPage=1

Augustus Saunders Redman was the son of Elizabeth (née Saunders) Redman, who was from James’s first marriage. He names his mother’s full sister and two of her half-brothers:

“Aunt Winny Lankford lives near Hopewells (Hopville?) Post Office, Calhoune Co., Ark. Dr. John H. Saunders & his brother Dr. Sam live near Holly Springs, Ark.”

Those two physicians are among the known children of James Saunders’s second marriage. Augustus S. Redman’s sister Amanda, named in the letter, was my great-grandmother.

The identity of James Saunders’s first wife has been a matter of contention for generations. Some hold to “a Miss Jones.” I myself argue in my Ancestry.com tree that she was Kerenhappuch Sanford.

The letter.

Liberty, Dekalb Co., Tenn., Feb. 19th, 1867 Dear Sister Ann, I recd your letters together with Dear Little ---- (Annie's ?) a few months ago, in answer to my letters to you and sister Amanda, and truly glad was I to learn that you had all survived the cruel war just over & that 2 of the girls were married. I hope I shall be able to visit you next Christmas & will write Sister Elizabeth Ward to meet me there. I recd letters from Sister Elizabeth near Batesville & Cous Wm Redman of Butts Co., Ga. Where is Sister Amanda teaching school at? Is Am married? I am not worth much if my debts were paid the war damaged the south. I own a house and lot in this little village & am doing good business. My practice is worth about 3000 Dolls a year. I have 3 horses & 3 cows. Aunt Winny Lankford lives near Hopewells (Hopville?) Post Office, Calhoune Co., Ark. Dr. John H. Saunders & his brother Dr. Sam live near Holly Springs, Ark. All of Aunt Winny's children are dead but Ann Sanders, her hus- band also. Rev. Wm. H. Bayliss lived at Waco Texas when I heard last. Perhaps you will all agree in two more years to move west to Ark. or Texas. Maybe we will all live in the same neighborhood there and Cous Wm. R. may also. Land is worth about 20 Dolls an acre there, more or less according to quality.

Corn is 60 cts a bu, bacon 12cts a lb, flour is worth 6.00 a hundred. Calico is 20 cts a yd. My daughter Hatty Amanda is 5 yrs old & can read in the 2nd Reader. Laura Ann is 3 yrs old and smart and handsome. Nicholas Augustus is 13 months old, can walk & say a few words. All are smart. I hope all my sisters will take care of Nr 1 & avoid disease. Keep ---- (Spices? Specas?), & Cooks Anti Bilious pills 26 cts a box & lauda- num & ---- (Vaiden's?) Tonic pills & cure your own sick & save Doctors Bills. Use smart economy. Little Laura Ann often puts me in mind of you my sweet little sister. My mother told me whild on her dying bed to take care of little Mary Ann & I did till you married. And when I knew you were in safe hands, I left in order to try to do something in the world. And I am going into a better practice & I think if I can have good health I will do good business anywhere as anybody can do good business anywhere that will try. My opportunities have been bad, & I have not been as apt as some but my memory is good. I book now 3000 Dolls a yr ---------- good. We all join in love to you all A. S. Redman

Contra:

There is excellent evidence for the father of Elizabeth Saunders who married George W. Redman. She was the daughter of James Saunders (Saunders-528) whose second wife was Levisa Bowen. Elizabeth was the daughter of James's first marriage. See the letter I posted below and also posted to her father.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Saunders-528

It is her mother who is uncertain.

She was not the

Daughter of James Yancey Sanders and Obedience Elizabeth (Salmon) Sanders

Neither was she the

Sister of Jesse F. Sanders [half], Asa Sanders and Clarissa (Sanders) Luna.