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Thomas Savage (abt. 1595 - bef. 1633)

Ensign Thomas Savage
Born about in Englandmap
Son of and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married 1623 (to 1627) in Virginiamap
Descendants descendants
Died before before about age 38 in Savage Neck, Accomack County, Virginia Colonymap
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Sometimes referred to as "The Ensign," and/or "Ancient Planter"
Disputed wife and family

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Biography

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Thomas Savage was a Jamestown colonist.
Thomas Savage[1] was born about 1594-95 in England, the son of unknown parents.
He may have been born in Cheshire, England, or Worcestershire, England.

Research Notes

  • First name(s) Thomas
  • Last name Savage
  • Gender Male
  • Birth year 1591
  • Baptism year 1591
  • Baptism date 25 Mar 1591
  • Place Davenham
  • County Cheshire
  • Country England
  • Father's first name(s) Simonis
  • Father's last name Savage
  • Record set Cheshire Diocese Of Chester Parish Baptisms 1538-1911
  • Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
  • Subcategory Parish Baptisms
  • Collections from England, Great Britain [2]
  • Original Document[3]
Thomas Savage has been disconnected from unproven parents, Sir Arthur Savage and Jane Stafford Savage. Please contact me and/or the profile manager if you have reliable evidence for parentage. Thank you. (Patricia Prickett Hickin, 14 April 2019.)
Known as "Ancient Thomas Savage", he arrived in Jamestown Virginia, with the "First Supply" on the ship known as "The John and Francis", in January 1607/08.[4]
He was 13 years old and listed as a "Laborer" on the passenger list."[5]

Indian negotiator

"Savage may have been present when Captain Samuel Argall kidnapped Pocahontas in 1613, and he played a critical role in negotiating an end to the fighting between the English and the Pamunkey tribe in March 1614. That May—after the marriage of Pocahontas to John Rolfe effectively ended the First Anglo-Powhatan War—Savage returned to the Indian capital with Ralph Hamor, secretary of the colony. Their mission was to arrange a marriage between Powhatan's youngest daughter and Sir Thomas Dale, the governor of Jamestown. According to Hamor, the paramount chief greeted Savage warmly, but scolded him for escaping: "My childe you are welcome, you have bin a straunger to me these foure yeeres, at what time I gave you leave to goe to Paspahae [Jamestown] … to see your friends, and till now you never returned." Despite the warm reception, Hamor and Savage's attempt to arrange the marriage was unsuccessful." from EncyclopediaVirginia.

Thomas Savage stands (left center) gesturing as he negotiates peace with the Indians,

Marriage and family

About 1623, when he was in his later twenties, he married Hannah 'Ann' Elkington.
The Encyclopedia Virginia has this to say about Thomas's wife:
"In or around 1621, Savage had received . . . a large tract of land on the Eastern Shore containing an estimated 9,000 acres. (This tract of land would become known as Savage's Neck.) About two years later, he married a woman named Hannah (sometimes Ann), who had come to Virginia at her own expense in 1621 on the Seaflower. The two had a son, John, around 1624. Savage's prosperity in the fur trade is reflected in the records of the day: by early 1625, Savage was recorded as possessing a house, a barn, a boat, and two servants; two years later, he was the owner of a 150-acre plantation, Savages Choice.[6]
Other sources add another son and a daughter:
  1. Thomas Savage
  2. Sarah Savage

Death

He died between 12 Aug 1631 and 24 Sep 1633. (At that time, the widow Hannah Savage went on a bond of £500 for her neighbor Daniel Cugley.)[7]
Thomas died of unknown causes on 24 September 1633 in Savage Neck, Accomack County, Virginia, while he was still in his thirties.
Alternate death information: Died 1631 or 1635 in http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Cherrystone_VA Cherrystone, Northampton County], Virginia], or 1627 at Savage Neck, Accomack County, Virginia].
He was survived by his son, John, who inherited his land, and his wife, who by 1638 had married a planter named Daniel Cugley.

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Plaque for Thomas Savage

Research Notes

Disputed Claims of Native Spouse

The following claims are based on unreliable sources. There is no solid evidence or documentation of the origins-- Native or otherwise-- of Thomas Savage's wife Hannah.

Click here for a family website, SAVAGE ANCESTRY, by R. Blair Savage, which argues that Thomas's first wife was a Native American and that Hannah was Thomas's second wife and the step-mother of his son:
"It is documented that an Ann/Hannah was a wife of Ensign Thomas Savage and that they had at least one child, John Savage, later called, Capt. John Savage. I believe that Ann/Hannah was the Ensign's second wife and the step-mother of the "Belson" boy. I believe this boy was actually Thomas Savage the Carpenter, the son of the Ensign and a native girl. I believe "Belson" was a family name given to the boy to distinguish him from his father, Ensign Thomas Savage. I believe this young fellow may have been called, Thomas "Belson" Savage. This is a theory which is yet to be proven."
Email from Paula Grimes Kenney
to Patricia Prickett Hickin, 18 Feb 2016 12:07am

" Hello Patricia, I just wanted to mention in case it might be helpful to you that I have done a great deal of research on Thomas Savage as he is my 9th great grandfather. He and his children are listed through many sources as being descendants of Chief Powhatan. As you know he was married to Hannah Tyng. In the National Archives there is a note that Hannah Tyng was the English name for Indian Princess Hannaniting though they aren't clear about what tribe she is from. Since Thomas Savage is listed as having been married to an "Unknown" daughter of Powhatan I have come to believe that Hannah Tyng could only have been Princess Hanniniting Powhatan, the apparently forgotten daughter of Chief Powhatan. I think she is often confused with the Hannah Tyng who married a Thomas Savage at a later date in Boston. So I think most people who are doing the genealogy of Thomas Savage of Jamestown have his wife's genealogy all wrong because she has been confused with the other Hannah Tyng who is from a completely different family. Paula Grimes Kenney."

He was probably the first permanent white settler on the Eastern Shore].
Having added the role of planter to his resume, Savage continued to serve as an interpreter until his death.

Disputed child

May have had a son earlier, by a woman of either Powhatan's or Debedeavon's people: http://www.geni.com/people/Thomas-the-carpenter-Savage/6000000007233615493

About Debedeavon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debedeavon

Looks more likely to me that it would be Debedeavon's people. Powhatan sent young Thomas away to live with them.

Sources

  1. Savage, Thomas - A6905; born 1592, died ca. 1633, Accomack Co.: (Musters of 1623/4 and 1624/5). accessed 24 October 2021
  2. https://www.findmypast.com/transcript?id=GBPRS/B/766576897/1
  3. https://search.findmypast.com/record?id=GBPRS%2FCHS%2F4019832%2F00771&parentid=GBPRS%2FB%2F766576897%2F1
  4. Passenger List of the John and Francis 1607 Research and compilation by Anne Stevens, packrat-pro.com.
  5. Timeline History of Jamestown, Virginia
  6. URL: https://www.encyclopediavirginia.org/Savage_Thomas_ca_1595-before_September_1633#start_entry Accessed 6 Dec 2019.
  7. Adventureres of Purse and Person, p. 534 and N'hamp Orders, Wills, Deeds, etc., 1632-40, f. 11).

See also:

  • Ancestry.com. Ye kingdome of Accawmacke, or, The Eastern Shore of Virginia in the seventeenth century Includes bibliographical references (p. 379-381) and index. Original data - Wise, Jennings C.. Ye kingdome of Accawmacke, or, The Eastern Shore of Virginia in the seventeenth century. Richmond, Va.: Bell Book and Stationery Co., 1911.
  • Ralph T. Whitelaw, Virginia's Eastern Shore (A History of Northampton and Accomack Counties).
  • Virginia M. Meyer & John Frederick Dorman, Adventurers of Purse and Person, Virginia, 1607-1624/5.
  • Northampton Co, VA, Orders, Wills, Deeds, 1632-1640, f. 11.
  • Carl Savage's Genealogy WFT #4976 Source Media Type: Electronic Links
  • NUGENT, NELL MARION. Cavaliers and Pioneers: Abstracts of Virginia Land Patents and Grants, 1623-1666. Vol. 1. Richmond [VA]: Dietz Printing Co., 1934. 767p. Reprinted by Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, 1983. Page: 29.
  • McCartney, Martha W. Virginia Immigrants and Adventurers 1607-1635: A Biographical Dictionary; Genealogical Publishing Company, Baltimore, MD, 2007, pp. 624, 625




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Someone should disconnect Thomas Savage (born c1615) from Hannah. Ensign Thomas Savage (born c1595) had son Thomas (the carpenter) 8 years before he married Hannah. Sources below and on the page for the son Thomas say that the mother of young Thomas (the carpenter) was probably a Powhatan princess. Even if you do not want to show that mother, disconnecting him from Hannah will make him a half-brother to John. Young Thomas would not have called John “cousin” in court if they were full brothers. But it was common in those days to use “cousin” for half-brothers.
posted by K. Schubel
The image used here seems to be modeled on a different Thomas Savage in Massachusetts ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Savage_(major) ). This makes sense since Ensign Thomas Savage was at most 38 when he died, and this portrait is obviously of someone much older.
posted by Timothy Varney
His bio says his parents are unknown, which is at odds with having a father shown in the data field. What sources shows his parentage?
posted by S (Hill) Willson
Hello there was a Thomas Savage b. 19 Feb 1593/4 Wiveliscombe Somerset, who may be of interest; record here: https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=GBPRS%2FSOMERSET%2FBAP%2F004215840

His father was Thomas who may have been bur. 1611 Wiveliscombe. I haven't been able to trace the son further forward.

David

posted by David Mortimer
edited by David Mortimer
Thanks, David, but I don't have a subscription to FindMyPast.

Pat

posted by [Living Prickett]
Hi Pat,

I have just had a look at the original and now can confirm that Thomas buried 1611 was stated to be the son of Thomas.

I’ll keep a look out for Thomas b. Abt. 1595.

David

posted by David Mortimer
Research Notes and sub-sections should be removed if they are redundant.
posted by Betty (Skelton) Norman
The book "Houses Virginians Have Loved," by Agnes Rothery, 1954, states: "Thomas Savage (age 13) came to Virginia in 1608 with Christopher Newport and so caught the fancy of Powhatan that it was arranged that the English boy should be exchanged for an Indian one. Young Savage must have been an attractive lad, for when Powhatan's brother saw him, he too coveted him. Thereupon, Powhatan, who chose to call the boy Newport, sent him to live with Debedeavon, the 'Laughing King' who was chief of all Accomack. Once again young Savage found favor, and Debedeavon gave the south side of Wissaponson to his adopted son, Thomas Savage. A patent for this tract of nine thousand acres - the largest patent then on record - was issued in 1664 to Captain John Savage, the son of Thomas, and since then the name has kept alive through numerous descendants. John Savage's first wife was Ann Elkington, and in her honor the present house was built in 1799 and named Elkington."
posted by Linda (Noland) Layman
How do you know that the Thomas Savage born in Cheshire, England in 1594 is the same Thomas that came over to Jamestown.

The surname Savage was very common in England at that time, especially in the Norfolk and Suffolk areas. Also you have two of his children born before the marriage date of 1623 - 1627.

posted by Malcolm Hoare
Removed Sir Arthur Savage and his wife as parents. No indication of that relationship and even quoted sources for this Thomas Savage indicate that there is no information on who his parents were. The Thomas Savage who is a son Sir Arthur Savage and Jane Stafford was knighted in Cadiz and married to Dowglas Snagg. They had three children. This certainly excludes him from having been on a ship to America at age 13.
posted by [Living Anderson]
Savage-2191 and Savage-1843 appear to represent the same person because: same person
posted by [Living McQueen]
The birth date for this Thomas is either wrong or he did not have a child named Thomas. Chris do you have any sources to share?

Ive posted some sources but they prove what I just stated.

posted by [Living McQueen]

Rejected matches › Thomas Savage (1586-1635)