Born after in Hertfordshire, England
Ancestors 
Daughter of Robert (Scales) de Scales
and Katharine (Ufford) Scales
Sister of
Elizabeth (Scales) de Felbrigge and Roger Scales
Wife of
Walter (Bermingham) de Bermingham
— married
about 1359 [location unknown]
Wife of
Robert Howard
— married
before 10 Mar 1363 in England
Descendants 
Died
before age 81
in East Winch, Norfolk, England
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Biography
Margaret Scales was first married to Sir Walter de Bermingham of Ireland. They had no children.
She married 2nd to Sir Robert Howard, son of Sir John Howard, Sheriff & Escheator of Norfolk & Suffolk, Admiral of the North Fleet and Alice de Bois, before 10 March 1363. They had three sons (Sir John; Edmund; & Robert) and three daughters (Alice, a nun at Thetford; Margaret, wife of Constantine, 2nd Lord Clifton, & of Sir Gilbert Talbot; & Katherine).
Margaret left a will on 8 May 1416. She was buried in the south side of the chancel at East Winch, Norfolk.
Research Notes
Order of Marriages
In Magna Carta Ancestry and Royal Ancestry, Douglas Richardson says that Margaret, daughter of Robert de Scales and Katherine de Ufford, married first Thomas Howard and secondly Walter de Bermingham.[1][2][3] Subsequent research has established that the marriages were the other way round - that her first husband was Walter de Bermingham. See the 2014 thread 'Margaret (or Margery) de Scales, wife of Walter de Bermingham, Knt. (died 1361) and Robert Howard, Knt. (died 1388)' in soc.genealogy.medieval.[4]
Sources
- ↑ Douglas Richardson. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 4 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham, 2nd edition (Salt Lake City: the author, 2011), Vol. II, pp. 407-408, HOWARD 7
- ↑ Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 512, SCALES, Google Bools
- ↑ Douglas Richardson. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City: the author, 2013), Vol. III, pp. 330-331, HOWARD 10
- ↑ Douglas Richardson. 'Margaret (or Margery) de Scales, wife of Walter de Bermingham, Knt. (died 1361) and Robert Howard, Knt. (died 1388)', thread started in soc.genealogy.medieval on 25 September 2014, accessed 7 May 2021
- Waters, R E C; Genealogical Memoirs of the Family of Chester of Chicheley, Vol 1 – Tyndale of Hockwold
- See father Robert Scales for source verification by Magna Carta Project
- Blomefield, Francis. An Essay Towards a Topographical History of the County of Norfolk (W. Miller, Norfolk, England, 1739) Vol. 1, Page 54
- Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, 2nd ed. (2011), 3 vols, Volume 2, page 267, HOWARD 8.
- Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd ed. (2011), 4 vols, Volume 2, page 407, HOWARD 7.
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Can we delete most of the bio blurb content on this profile?
Because the repetition of her name, dates, parents, marriage and partial offspring stuff is redundant to the actual data in the real database, shown at the top of the page.
This isn't how we're supposed to be using the structured vs unstructured data fields on this site, is it? For example, it would be great if her story were told (explained etc) in the unstructured text field... but I dont see any good reason to paste in un-formatted, un-sourced repetitions of the structured data already encoded into the profile. Just seems like clutter... and invites trouble over time if the duplicate info drifts out of synch.
my two cents!
Also, per Richardson we are missing two children, Robert, and Alice: "had three sons, John, Knt., Edmund, and Robert, and three daughters, Alice (nun at Thetford), Margaret, and Katherine."
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