Philip Scheirer (abt. 1739)

Born about 1739 in Württemberg, Germany

Husband of Susanna (Unknown) Scheirer — married about 1764 in Germany

Husband of Elisabeth (Unknown) Scheirer — married about 1772 in Grimm, Saratov, Russia

Husband of Susanna (Unknown) Scheirer — married after 1775 in Grimm, Saratov, Russia

Descendants

Died [date unknown] in Grimm, Saratov, Russia

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Biography

Philip Scheirer was a Volga German.

Philip Scheirer has German Roots.

Family #14 in the 1767 Grimm census.
Family #100 in the 1775 Grimm census.
Family #30 in the 1798 Grimm census.

Philipp Scheirer was born in 1742 in Württemberg, Germany. He was a Lutheran, a "Schneider" (cutter) by profession. According to Wikipedia, a Schneider could denote a tailor (someone who cuts fabric) or a woodcutter. The Kulberg Reports refer to him as a tailor.

He can be found on page 168 of the Kulberg Reports along with his first wife, Susanna, with their surname spelled Scherer, with no i in the surname. ^[1] Together the couple traveled on document number 2420.^[1] They had no children.^[1] Their group of immigrants departed from Luebeck on the Pink Lev, arriving in Russia on 22 July 1766.^[1]

According to the Kulberg Reports, his wife's name was Susanna. Unfortunately there is no age given for her.

In the 1767 census, his wife's name is Elisabeth and she was 28 years old, just 3 years older than her husband. It appears that his first wife, Susanna, did not survive the journey to the Volga River colonies. Because he has a one year old daughter whose mother was his second wife, Susanna must have died early on, when the German immigrants were still in St. Petersburg and later Oranienbaum for the fall and winter. It is unclear how he could marry his second wife, have a child with her, and have that child be a year old, all in the time span of roughly one year. Additionally, the name of his wife in the 1775 census is back to Susanna. This means that the following scenarios should be considered:

• Unless there were intake errors from multiple sources over a span of about 10 years, Philipp Scherer had three wives.

• If there were multiple age errors and he was married to the same person during that 10 years, then his wife's name must have been Susanna Elisabeth or Elisabeth Susanna.

• If first wife Susanna died before arriving in Grimm, she may have been pregnant when she and her husband first immigrated to Russia. This would account for the "no children" comment in the Kulberg Reports. She may have died during child birth or shortly after, and her father remarried second wife Elisabeth, in part to help care for his newborn daughter.

• If second wife Elisabeth is the birth mother of daughter Elisabeth, then the age of the younger Elisabeth is off by months. If there was an age error in the 1767 census, she may have been only 1 month old or 1 week old.

1767 Grimm Census ^[2]

Family # 14

Head of the Household Philipp Scherer, age 25, Lutheran Schneider [cutter] from Württemberg

Wife Elisabeth Scherer, age 28, second wife

Child #1 Elisabeth Scherer, age 1 year

In the 1775 census, his wife's name is back to Susanna, and she was 46 years old, 10 years older than her husband. Missing from the 1775 census is his daughter Elisabeth, who would have been 7 or 8 years old, and his wife Elisabeth. It is, in fact, very possible that these two family members did not survive the brutal conditions that the villagers dealt with after their arrival in Grimm.

1775 Grimm Census ^[3]

Family # 100

Head of the Household Philip Scheirer, age 36

Wife Susanna Scheirer, age 46

Child #1 Maria Katharina Scheirer, age 2

Child #2 Katharina Scheirer, age 2 weeks

The two children named in the 1775 census almost certainly belonged to Susanna Scheirer. If there were additional census intake errors involving her name and age in this record, she may have been the same person from the Kulberg Reports and the two Grimm census records taken thus far. If so, then she lost daughter Elisabeth but six years later had the first of two children who survived at least through the 1775 census.

To sum up the wife data for Philipp Scherer/Scheirer:

1. Susanna (1), age unknown in 1766 Kulberg Reports
2. Elisabeth, age 28, born 1739 in 1767 Grimm census
3. Susanna (2), age 46, born 1729 in the 1775 Grimm census

It would be easy to say that there was a census taker error and she was really only 36 in 1775, but then there is the problem with the different first names. Her name could have been Susanna Elisabeth or Elisabeth Susanna, but it was not typical to change the name one used for herself after she was an adult. Philipp Scherer could have also been married to three different women. The problem with that theory is that none of his children are noted to be from different mothers, as was typical in the 1775 and 1778 censuses.

By the time of the 1798 Grimm census, he was a widower and noted to be an invalid.

1798 Grimm Census ^[4]

Family # 30

Head of the Household Philipp Scheirer, widower, age 58, invalid

Child #1 Maria Katharina Scheirer Feil, age 26

Husband of Child #1 Jakob Feil, age 29, from Dreispitz

Grandchild #1 Johann Konrad Feil, age 2

Grandchild #1 Katharina Elisabeth Feil, age 3 months

Child #2 Katharina Feil, age 24

The Scheier/Scherer name does not appear at all in the 1834 census. Philipp most likely died before 1816, and his death year was noted in the census that came out that year. Because he had no sons, the name no longer existed in Grimm after his death. His descendants can be traced through his daughters and their children.

Research Notes

Possible Birth Record ^[5]

Name: Johann Andreas Philipp Scherer

Gender: Male

Birth Date: 22 Jul 1735

Birth Place: Heilbronn, Baden-Wuerttemberg

Baptism Date: 23 Jul 1735

Baptism Place: Heilbronn, Württemberg, Germany

Father: Hanss Jerg Scherer

Mother: Maria Catharina Horth

FHL Film Number: 816280

Name: Johann Andreas Philipp Scherer

Event Type: Taufe (Baptism)

Birth Date: 22 Jul 1735

Baptism Date: 22 Jul 1735

Baptism Place: Württemberg, Deutschland (Germany)

Father: Hanß Zey Scherer

Mother: Maria Catharina Scherer

City or District: Heilbronn

Page Number: 538;539

Author: Evangelische Kirche Heilbronn (OA. Heilbronn)

Film Number: 816280

I've attached a copy of the above-mentioned possible birth record for research purposes, since some people can't see Ancestry source files without a membership.

Sources

1. ↑ ^{1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3} Pleve, Igor; Lists of Colonists to Russia in 1766, "Reports by Ivan Kulberg;" Saratov State Technical University, Saratov, Russia; published in Saratov 2010; page 168, Philip Scherer and wife Susanna, document number 2420.
2. ↑ Pleve, Igor. Einwanderung in das Wolgagebiet 1764-1767, Band 2, Herausgegeben von Alfred Eisfeld under Mitarbeit von Sabine Eichwald, Published by the Nordost-Instsitut - 38085 Göttingen, 2005; page 75, family #14, Philipp Scherer, age 25, Lutheran Schneider from Württemberg, wife Elisabeth, age 28, daughter Elisabeth, age 1 year.
3. ↑ The 1775 and 1798 Census of the German Colony on the Volga, Lesnoy Karamysh, also known as Grimm; Published by the American Historical Society of Germans from Russia, Lincoln, Nebraska, USA; Published date: 1995; family #100 in the 1775 Grimm census, Philip Scheirer family.
4. ↑ The 1775 and 1798 Census of the German Colony on the Volga, Lesnoy Karamysh, also known as Grimm; Published by the American Historical Society of Germans from Russia, Lincoln, Nebraska, USA; Published date: 1995;
5. ↑ Ancestry.com. Germany, Select Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014. Original data: Germany, Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898. Salt Lake City, Utah: FamilySearch, 2013; Johann Andreas Philipp Scherer possible birth record, 22 Jul 1735, son of Hanß Zey and Maria Catharina Scherer.

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