Michael Schell
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Michael Schell

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Michael J. Schell
Born 1960s.
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Freespace page of Earliest settlers in the Tulpehocken/Swarta Creek region of Pennsylvania (1720-1740)

Freespace page for Lindenmuth list of early Tulpehocken Pennsylvania Pioneer Homesteads

Freespace page for Sustenance List entries for Zellers and Batdorfs living at Livingston Manor (1710-1712)

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My main family names of expertise & interest are Schell, Frette/Frette, Ice, Clevenger, and Petty. In the 1970s, my grandmother Violet Johnson Petty did extensive genealogical work on the Frette, Petty, and Hill families, as sourced below.[1] [2]

My male (Y-DNA 37 markers) haplotype is J-M172. My haplogroup--as predicted from my autosomal SNP data by 23&Me, and the program CladeFinder--is J-M241, also known as j2b2. I'm interested in locating other Schell males with the same haplotype, especially those with roots to early German settlers of the Tulpehocken region of Pennsylvania in the 18th century. Also interested in locating Germans living in or near Heidelberg who share this haplogroup.

UPDATE January 2019: I have identified another living Schell male who shares this haplogroup. Both of us are descendants of Peter Schell (1810-1854) via different sons.

My maternal (mitochondrial) haplotype is U3a1a (full mito-DNA sequence). This is a relatively rare haplogroup amongst Scandinavian people, which I have documented back to 1745 in Norway. Almost all of the closest matches of FT-DNA show a maternal ancestor in Scandinavia, mainly Norway and Sweden. The deeper roots of this haplotype are in the Fertile Crescent.

I also have multiple connections to families in Rockport, Spencer County Indiana. I'm Interested in working with others to clarify the complex family relationships and (many) inter-marriages among the early settlers of this region.

Sources

  1. Some People Called Frette. By Violet Johnson Petty. Decorah, Iowa : Anundsen, c1982. UPDATE: I had this book digitized for sharing with Frette/Fretty relatives
  2. When One Hill Joins Another. By Ross Hill Petty and Violet Johnson Petty. Decorah, Iowa: Andudsen c1987.

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It may be possible to confirm family relationships. Paternal line Y-chromosome DNA test-takers:
  • Michael Schell: Family Tree DNA Y-DNA Test 37 markers, haplogroup J-M172, FTDNA kit #B524113, MitoYDNA ID T14485 [compare]
Maternal line mitochondrial DNA test-takers:
  • Michael Schell: Family Tree DNA mtDNA Test Full Sequence, haplogroup U3a1a, FTDNA kit #B524113, MitoYDNA ID T14449 [compare] + Mitochondrial DNA Test Full Sequence, haplogroup U3a1a, MitoYDNA ID T14449 [compare]
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Michael.

I have not waited long to ask you for a lookup in the Palentine Families!

Please do Maria Frolich (1749-) In Vol. 1, p 253.

She married Johannes Martin (1749-1816)

Thre are two Maria Frolichs and Im' trying to determine the correct one.

Just started working on their profiles. Are you able to screen shot the page?

Best, Linda

posted by Linda Crannell
edited by Linda Crannell
Jones shows a number of Maria Frölichs. On p. 156, Gerhard Dietrich, son of Johann Christian Dietrich, married Maria Frölich. On p. 253-257, there is a Maria Frölich baptized 16 Feb 1746, daughter of Johann Peter Frölich and Margaretha Flegeler. This Maria married Garret Dedrich [cited in a will]. Also, this same couple sponsored Maria Schreiber, daughter of Johann Emmerich Schreiber (baptized 12 Aug 1744, sponsors Marden Schreiber and Maria Borckert). On p. 256, there is a baptism record (28 Mar 1749) for Maria Frölich, daughter of Johann Henrich Frölich and Elisabetha Catharina Schneider. On Page 257, ther is a birth record for Maria Frölich, daughter of Johannes Frölich and Maria Margaretha Lehmann, (b. 7 Dec 1743) daughter of Clement Lehmann. Apparently the same couple later had a second daughter named Maria, that is Maria born 10 Jan 1756. So I think that makes at least 4 different women named Maria Frölich. Good luck sorting them out!
posted by Michael Schell
Michael,

Nice job on improving the profile for Johann Nicolaus B Traber (abt.1720-1784).

I was waiting to hear back from my local library with the Info on Nicholas from the Palantine Familys and then I was planning on fixing Nicholas's profile but you beat me to it!

I don't have a copy of the Henry Jones Paleantine Families. Do you?

Seems to be the best resource here.

Linda

posted by Linda Crannell
Hi Linda, thanks for the kind words, yes I have copies of most of the Jones Palatine books. Happy to help with look-ups.
posted by Michael Schell
Terrific comment re: German mercenaries on the Palatine Migration Project.
From your friends at the Appreciation Team:

Congrats on the Super Star Badge!

posted by SJ Baty
Thanks, I now feel as privileged as a star-bellied Sneech!
posted by Michael Schell
Nice to meet you, 8th great-nephew of husband of aunt of wife of 7th great-uncle.
posted by Scott Hutchins
Nice to meet you too. Small world. I grew up in Indianapolis, a few miles from St.Vincent Hospital (I remember when they built it!). I lived in College Park and attended Pike HS--smaller rival of North Central.
posted by Michael Schell
Hi Michael,

I just wanted to introduce myself, I am April and we are 11th cousin twice remove we are both related to Edmond Freeman III he is your 10th great-grandfather and he is my 12th great-grandfather.

posted by April (Kimble) Kelly
Hi Michael. Nice to read about you on Meet Our Members. We are 9th cousins through Johannes Lauer.
posted by James Stratman
Hi James, nice to meet you too. I am working on another one of your ancestors, Johann Matthias Theiss/Dice/Tice, etc. This guy and his descendants are a big mess on Wikitree because of all of the different spellings. I found one guy with 5 profiles, spelled 5 different ways. Very confusing family.
posted by Michael Schell
Oh yes, I know the Theiss/Dice well. I added them extensively on my Ancestry tree. You are right the name spellings are all over the place. The good news is that their line seems to have been researched with family history books.
posted by James Stratman
Thank you Michael!

I have a lot of information to add to the tree, though it looks like it will take me a while. We will see if our ancestors lived on the same hill.

posted by B Hill
Your comments and the link to the PA map have been added to the sources for John Thomas Copenhaver. You had lots of good information and it is much appreciated. Thanks for sharing.
Haven't seen the Tulpehocken 1776 map and it sounds intriguing. Could you send me a link?
Thanks so much for the data you added to the John Thomas Copenhaver page. Very interesting and maybe a clue that needs to be pursued.
For John Peter Walborn i have now deleted the date and place of death. I had taken them from Ancestry Family Trees, but now see that there is no proof of either the date nor the place. I usually do not take Ancestry Family Trees at their word, but check every bit of information. In John's case i did not: i think that information regarding his son also called John Walborn has been wrongly ascribed to John Walborn, Father. I shall look for more information, and post what i find, if i find anything reliable. Thanks again!
Re: your query about Henry Schell born in OR in 1797; there is an Oregon township in Wayne County, PA nearby--his most likely origin. Which Schells did he come from? Pretty far north of the Berks and Montgomery county Schells, and quite distant from the NY Schell's Bush clan.
posted by Roger Shell
Thank you. Much of my stuff is second hand. Getting it organized is good
posted by Lawrence Heiney
Hi Michael, I don't understand how the 3 Copenhaver/Kopenhaver profiles ended up with PA births because my home database has correct country as Germany. I have corrected them and thanks for catching the error. Rebecca
Hi Michael, just saying thank you for replying to my question about uploading photos and other images. I must say I was surprised to see your surname, my mother was a Schell. But while your family were in the USA my family was still back in Germany. I compared our DNA on GEDmatch (using the 3D browser) and found we share no DNA but have ICW matches. One match, A381668 (Cynthia Schell) who I noticed you share a considerable amount of DNA with, I also share X DNA with. It's nice to see the Schell name. Maree
posted by Maree Waite
Hi

Wish you a Happy New Year. May 2018 bring you all you need to be happy.

Congratulation for adding your contributions in December. Whatever the quantity of your contributions, they all count. As I always say "Quality is better than quantity" to make a great family tree.

Thank you for being a Wikitreer,

Guy Constantineau - Wikitree leader


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