Michael Schindler
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Michael Schindler

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Michael D. Schindler
Born 1940s.
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Michael Schindler has German Roots .
Clausthal C O A
Lower Saxony


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Special Inventory German Emigrants from Lower Saxony

Special Inventory German Emigrants [1]

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Category: Schindler-204 https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Category:Schindler-204


"The Story"----This SCHINDLER family emigrated from Germany during a time when mining was in decline and there was little or no work for many thousands in the Kingdom of Hannover, Germany. Known as the Harz mountain area and coming from the town of Clausthal-Zellerfield, many residents were given the chance to go to either America or to Australia. Their passage was paid in advance and those accepting were to pay back their passage costs when they had earned enough after arriving. As repayment was almost non-existent the state cancelled this program, and as the original goals of reducing population to meet economic conditions was met.

My family left Germany in 1852 and 1854 to settle in Lykens, PA. [2] MAP of Lykens and surrounding county. As miners from Clausthal Germany (Hanover and Harz mountains area) economic times once some of the best in Germany were in decline as the mines had become only marginally productive.

Government officials in coordination with the British Monarchy decided as they could not support the increasingly growing number of residents who were no longer employed to offer to pay for passage to anyone who wished to emigrate to the USA and Australia (and other countries) who needed skilled workers in their mines.

It is believed that mining company representatives came to Germany to recruit miners and offered them jobs in advance. So with employment prospects secured in advance the family decided to emigrate. The family included my Great Great Grandfather Ernst Wilhelm Valentin Schindler and his mother Wilhelmine (Hölling) Schindler. Her husband Johann Carl Schindler died in 1846 before the family emigrated.

Also emigrating with her were sons Frederick, and Carl, daughters Sophia (Fromme), and Christiane (König). Sophia and Christiane had children with them. Whilhelmine is first found in the US (see 1860 US Census) as the wife of Peter Miller. It is unknown if she remarried before or after leaving Germany. Unfortunately even though records exist documenting emigration ships list can only be found for the König and Fromme families.

The rest of the story is yet to be written, but includes the lives of many descendents, and their families as they spread out over the United States. Recently my research has expanded to including much deeper into the extended families of the many spouses and also to include some names of distant relatives who emigrated to Australia (Jan 2020).


  • Author: [3] Ancestry.com Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2008. Ernst Schindler Family Tree This link includes all the archives and resources to include birth, death, census and multiple sources. (registration required to view all information)
  • German Niedersachsen Archives NLA Niedersachsen-Hanover German Niedersachsen Archives NLA Niedersachsen-Hanover
  • First Hand Information Entered by Mike Schindler-204 at registration. This information includes information handed down from Great Aunts and Uncles to include the late 1800 Family Bible of my Great Grandfather and Grandmother with family history entered. Also pictures and documents preserved after those ancestors passed on.
  • Other references include German church records obtained by Professional German Researcher/Archivist.


This family tree GED imported from [www.Ancestry.com] Ancestry "Ernst Schindler Family", from Clausthal, Germany Feel free to contact me for more information or to be given permissions to join the trusted list and access to private information if you are related to this family. Here is a link to the area in Germany (Clausthal, Germany) where the Schindler family lived.

[4] Clausthal-Zellerfield Information and history Clausthal-Zellerfeld is a town in Lower Saxony, Germany. It is located in the southwestern part of the Harz mountains. Its population is approximately 15,000. The City is the location of the Clausthal University of Technology.click link to follow.

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posted by Traci Thiessen
Hello Michael,

I've finally found a link between my family and one of the profiles you have contributed to: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Lindner-622. One of August's sons married one of my great-grand-aunts: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Whitbread-227

I do have a question about August's birthplace. August was born in 1818. I agree with you that Wildemann was not within Prussia. I think it's more appropriate to refer to the name 'Kingdom of Hanover' rather then the modern state name 'Niedersachsen'.

Cheers, Steve.

posted by Steve Thomas
edited by Steve Thomas
I roll back and forth on what to use for the location, but mostly I feel the political sub-division at birth should rule and if there is any possibility of confusion clarify in the text of the biography. There are so many right on the border it get's confusing easily. And we must not forget some of those smaller kingdoms or duchies.

The only thing I don't like is the confederation--what is that act "Congress of Vienna" of 1814-15? now to call anyone born in one of the 39 states between then and 1866 together under 1 state does not make sense to me. I know I have made some errors putting some in Hanover--that were in one of the others like Thuringia.

posted by Michael Schindler
Sometimes I have to re-read a text several times to understand the meaning.

I am no fan of the 'German Confederation' category in Wikitree. I did not make it. However, it is a convenient way to collect together separate countries that I do not consider to be 'Germany' before 1871. Curiously there is alternate category structure under former European countries. I'm watching how the debate plays out.

posted by Steve Thomas
edited by Steve Thomas
Hello Michael,

I am reviewing the passenger lists of ships carrying German emigrants to South Australia. I'm working in chronologic order and almost all of the emigrants between 1837 and 1844 have been religious dissenters.

In 1845, I'm starting to see some miners; mostly from the Prussian province of Posen. The first miner from Clausthal I've seen is Carl August Wilhelm Dunemann (Dunemann-5) who worked in the copper mine at Burra. I'm still compiling the passenger manifest for the ship Carl August migrated on. (https://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Space:Heerjeebhoy_Rustomjee_Patel%2C_Immigrant_Voyage_to_South_Australia_1845&public=1)

I'm sure this is the first of many I'll see from Clausthal and will keep an eye on the emigrants you have identified to see if I can cross-link them to current families.

Cheers, Steve.

posted by Steve Thomas
edited by Steve Thomas
Hi Michael,

The Australia Project leadership team are carrying out a check-in to see how you are going in the project and especially to thank you for all your work on Australian profiles on WikiTree. We really value your participation.

Please could you get back to me by private message to let me know if you are happy with your current role and team involvement within the project or if you would like to do something additional or different. Currently you are on the Prussian Settlement team. If you would like a change, you can check on the Australia Project page to see what other options there are.

It would also be great to hear any feedback and any suggestions that you have to improve the project. On a practical note, if you are a member of the google group, are you receiving messages ok? Also do you have Australia as one of the tags you are following on the G2G? Don't forget to add it in if you don't have that tag yet.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Kind Regards

Margaret Haining Membership Coordinator

I approached the Arcinsys Niedersachsen and Bremen with some trepidation.

It is surprisingly easy to use.

I found Georg Schunke (1836 Clausthal -1904 Echunga, South Australia). The German records resolved conflicting family stories whether he emigrated in 1846 or 1853.

posted by Steve Thomas
edited by Steve Thomas
It's surprising, isn't it. If you get lost hitting anything it is easy to go back and click again--and to get it to come up in English. Google or other translate systems do a fair job of translating, but some German words just do not translate--especially occupations I find.

Have no fear of testing strange waters my friend, below tose rough waves may be a calm sea!

posted by Michael Schindler
Regarding the Schunke family, 1845-1855 was an excellent time for miners from Clausthal to emigrate to South Australia.

The Schunkes I know were farmers and neighbours to my father's farm. Georg Schunke, mentioned above, emigrated as an ore-sorter but became an inn-keeper. Serving drinks to thirsty miners is smart business. One of Georg's brothers was listed as a shareholder in the Central Broken Hill Silver Mining Company in 1892. I hope his family kept their shares as this company became BHP (Broken Hill Propriety Company Ltd). In 2017 BHP was listed as the largest mining company in the world (based on market capitalisation).

posted by Steve Thomas
Most of those emigrating at that time were loaned the money for the passage and with that incentive, during times when the mines were depleting and no way to provide for their families a new opportunity must have looked like a risk thousands could not resist. I had to be hard to leave all you grew up with, and you entire family behind knowing you would probably never see them again.

The jobs offered were low pay and hard, but they were hardened from the work they did in Germany. Many like the Schunke family used the opportunity well to float up the ladder, most however just became ordinary citizens, happy to be able to raise a family. As there were so many immigrants from Germany I suppose they did not feel isolated, and quickly became a normal part of the population. I don't know for sure, but assume a very large percentage of today's population have German roots as they all had large families it appears.

posted by Michael Schindler
A lot of your comment rings true to my family history in South Australia (SA). I'll reply on a different page to add a bit more nuance. The main jarring note were the words 'float up the ladder'. The first Schunkes migrated 10 years after European settlement commenced in South Australia so there wasn't very much established social hierarchy. They were lucky enough to walk straight into a mining boom. The copper mine at Burra in SA became the largest in the world in this period.
posted by Steve Thomas
edited by Steve Thomas
Well, I guess that is true. I don't know the timeframe. Australia's history, and peoples are not my espertise. I guess there was not much of a ladder at that time. Virgin teritoy to speak when many of the immigrants arrived. Nice to hear of a success story.
posted by Michael Schindler
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posted by Gene Meier Jr.
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I am trying to figure out what you are saying. Please send me a message from the profile you are talking about if it is one with my name on it as I can find no one with any of those names in my watch list. Give me the wiki name and number of all the profiles you mention, or at least one of them.

Thanks for your email. Note I have about 3,000 profiles I have entered from Niedersachsen that have no relationship to me. If you find one that is related to you I can make you the manger of that profile.

posted by Michael Schindler
Thanks for adding the link to the page "Prussian Settlement in Australia ......". There a lot of similar history.
posted by Steve Thomas
When I was there looking around I said to myself, why didn't I think of that before.
posted by Michael Schindler
Hello Michael, welcome to the Australia project. We are delighted you have joined us. Thanks especially for your interest in Prussian settlement here. Your contributions are greatly appreciated. Gilliam, co-Leader, Australia Project.
posted by Gillian Thomas
Here is a story that most genealogists might enjoy reading. It is about immigration from Europe, within Europe, and around the world.

Special inventory "Emigrants" German NLA NLA HA > SF Auswanderer > Auswanderer https://www.arcinsys.niedersachsen.de/arcinsys/start.action?opennutzunginfo=false Link to this page for the story below. Above is the link for the detailed immigrant file. https://www.arcinsys.niedersachsen.de/arcinsys/detailAction.action?detailid=b2601

History of creator Emigration or emigration means leaving the home country permanently. The emigrants leave their homeland either voluntarily or forcibly for economic, religious, political or personal reasons. Such migration movements have been repeated over the centuries with varying degrees of intensity. In addition to the neighboring European countries, immigration countries have increasingly become non-European areas (North and South America, Australia) since the end of the 17th and early 18th centuries. The emigration movement reached its first peak in the German-speaking area in the 19th century. Hamburg, Bremen and especially Bremerhaven become central overseas emigration ports. The main reason for mass emigration is the economic development in the German states. After 1880 there was yet another major wave of emigration, primarily to the United States of America, which however no longer reached the strength of the previous emigration movement. In the first half of the 20th century, the motives for leaving the German Reich were the First World War, inflation in the 1920s and the socio-political effects of National Socialism between 1933 and 1945 (especially the persecution of the Jewish population). The German Emigration Center in Bremerhaven, which has been open to anyone interested since August 2005 as a newly established museum on "emigration", vividly devotes itself to this topic in various facets and periods. Custodial history In the run-up to that from June 1, 2000 to October 31, 2000 Under the motto "People, Nature and Technology - A New World is Coming" in the world exhibition EXPO 2000 taking place in Hanover, the idea arose to search for information about emigrants in the archives of the main state archive in Hanover and to use a special inventory to "emigrate" the data obtained to capture. Archive holdings were evaluated in various project phases. The focus of this evaluation was on emigration overseas in the 19th century. 10 positions are evaluated to collect data on emigration (see the following example). The archive holdings of the main state archive in Hanover, which may contain corresponding data about emigrants, include those of the district courts (archive holdings group Hann. 72 and Hann. 172), the offices (archive holdings group Hann. 74), the rural droste (archive holdings group Hann. 80) and the Counties / district offices (archive inventory group Hann. 174). In addition, suitable information was searched for in archive holdings from the Bergarchiv in Clausthal-Zellerfeld. Due to limited financial and human resources, it was not possible to evaluate all the archive holdings in question. Use of the special inventory "Emigrants" For use, please note that only the data on emigration are included in the special inventory "Emigrants". The original title of the file in the associated archive inventory differs from this (see the example below).

Example for the signature Hann. 72 Osterode No. 222

Title in the archive stock "District Court Osterode": Guardianship book for the district of Osterode Contains: Förste, Nienstädt, Eisdorf

Title / dates in the special inventory "Emigrants" Name, first name, origin: Töpperwien, August, Förste Birthday / age: March 5, 1831, died November 26, 1859 Occupation / status: Parents: Töpperwien, Jacob, Ackermann Mitauswanderer: Faith: Destination (country / place): America Date of emigration / registration: before November 26, 1859 Financial situation: Other: Entry in the Easter or guardianship book [main no. 136] reads: "Since the pupil died on November 26, 1859 in America, this No. will be canceled in the future."

Status: 2006Finding aids EDP-Findbuch (2006) Further information (funds)

Archivist in charge Petra Diestelmann (2006) Access The archive material can be viewed in the Lower Saxony State Archives in Hanover, taking into account compliance with protection and blocking periods in accordance with Section 5 of the Lower Saxony Archive Act (NArchG). I CANNOT FIND A WAY TO UPLOAD THE FILE ON HERE.

posted by Michael Schindler
Hi Mike,

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posted by Natalie (Durbin) Trott
Thank you for joining our collaborative tree .

Some more tips here to begin : HOW TO USE WIKITREE or check out the WikiTree video that a member created . Maggie N

posted by Maggie N.

Welcome to WikiTree . If you have questions getting started, someone may be able to point you in the right direction at our G2G forums or you might want to check out the introductory WikiTree video that a member created. If you decide you would like to join , go read the Honor Code, post a comment here on your profile and we would be glad to add you to our wikitree community. Maggie N

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