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Karl Schneider Sr. (abt. 1850 - 1916)

Karl [uncertain] (Carl) [uncertain] Schneider Sr.
Born about in Pomotschno, Polandmap
Ancestors ancestors
Husband of — married 1870 in Polandmap
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 65 in Edmonton, Alberta, Canadamap
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Biography

Karl left Hamburg aboard the Pisa with his wife Julianna and children Karl, Pauline and Elisabeth arriving in Quebec City, Quebec on 27 May 1912. He was planning to join a brother and farm. They were to travel inland on the C.P.R. [1]

Burial is in the Bruderheim Cemetery. Lutheran

Sources

  1. Ancestry, Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935, digital image; citing Library and Archives Canada; Ottawa, Ontario, Canada; Series: RG 76-C; Roll: T-4786

"Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVL6-B2CG : 13 December 2015), Carl Schneider, 1916; Burial, Bruderheim, Lloydminster Census Division, Alberta, Canada, Bethlehem Lutheran Church Cemetery; citing record ID 96427485, Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.


Acknowledgements

  • Schneider-2852 was created by Joan Lappenbush through the import of Joan_Lichtmann's_Family_Tree.ged on Feb 8, 2014.




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Schneider, Gustav 21 May 1871 Gluecksthal Karl Barz, Julianna 1884114/1 518 284

Schneider, Wilhelmine 28 Jan 1873 Gluecksthal Karl Barz, Julianna 1895621/1 309 231 Schneider, Anna 8 Jul 1874 Glucksthal Karl Barz, Julianne 1884065/2 459 367 Schneider, Adolphine 28 Dec 1875 Glucksthal Karl Barz, Julianna 1884069/2 576 450 . Schneider, Hulda 31 Jan 1879 Glucksthal Karl Barz, Julianna 1895627/2 540 466


Immigration Family to Canada on the Pisa May 1912 from Russia to Quebec City, Quebec, Canada

posted 19 Feb 2019 by Sharon Gabert   [thank Sharon]
Schneider Family tree

Carl Schneider was born in Warsaw, Poland, in November, 1851. His parents were Johann Schneider and Catherina Bredal. He married Julianna Bartz in Poland. In 1870, Carl and Julianna moved to Russia to find better land. In Russia, life was hard. There was nothing to buy, only salt. There were no spoons, kerosene, etc., because there was no demand at this time. The Czars owned most of the land: others owned small plots or rented. Pigs were butchered for meat. There were no mills so flour was ground by hand. The Germans greatly improved the country but the Russians claimed the Germans took over their land. Because Carl was well to do, he was able to buy land in Russia. He bought 100 acres for 8,000 rubles and farmed approximately 40 acres (decintines) in the state of Keiv, Town of Radomishel, Which is about half a day’s drive from the farm. All the children were born in Russia. In Russia, everyone between the ages of 21 and 30 had to join the Army. However, if you could hIde for one month, you could stay out of the Army for a year. Carl managed to hide successfully for three years but was caught during the fourth. This meant that he would have to serve for 25 years. At this time the Schneiders had three children – Minna, Gustav and Anna. Carl’s wife and children were taken away while he served in Poland. His Mother stayed with the family during this time. He could be bought out of the Army for Army for 400 rubles so the family sold everything they owed to raise the necessary money. A doctor was given the money to release him and did so by saying he had a bad eye. When Carl was released he had only a few rubles and was a hundreds of miles away from his home in Russia. He brought a ticket on the railroad to go as far as his money would take him. After getting off the train, he began to walk along the tracks. Every mile there was a hut and a watchman. Carl received permission from the head railway man to continue his journey down the tracks. He followed them all day and that night he came to a village. As he walked passed the village, he noticed a shadow following him. The shadow did not scare him so he continued on in the darkness. All the sudden the shadow took hold of his hair and lifted him up. Somewhat shaken, he decide to return to the village to spend the night. He stayed with some old people who fed him. As he was eating, he heard a train passing through but though nothing of it. That morning, Carl continued on his way. Just outside the village he came to a long bridge or train tresale, which was just the width of the track. Then it dawned on him. If the shadow (ghost) (had not forced him to go back, he would have been killed by a train). A ghost had saved is life! today we might call this an angel. On and on Carl walked. By now, he had only three rubles in his pocket. He met an old kind Jew, who bought him a train ticket to get home. When finally reached home he & the family had nothing. He went to work in a lumber camp to earn money. Carl went through High School. He could speak and read Polish, Russian and German. He began to train as a minister of the Lutheran Church but became ill with small pox. His face was scarred so badly he gave up studing for the Ministry. All the children were born in Russia –Minna was born in 1870. She moved to West Germany in 1900 and married a Mein. She was his fifth wife. Later in 1925, she and her family came to Canada will Tillie Krassen. The second was a boy, Gustav, who died of small pox at the age of 1 ½ years. Anna was born next. She stayed on in Russia when the others left. Her son, Ed Dorn and her daughter came here after world war 1. This son married, had three sons and one daughter and live at Entwhistle. Yula was the fourth child. She married in Russia and later died of small pox. The fifth born was Hulda who was born on January 30, 1879. She married a Krassen and is now living here. Aldaphine was the next one born and was the only girl who attended school. She did not marry and also died of small pox. The seventh child Bertha, also died of small pox. Aida the eight child was Munda who also came over with the family. Mathilda, the tenth child, was still living in Russia when then others left. The eleve4nth, twelfth and thirteenth children (Carl, Paulina and Elizabeth) all came over with their parents as well as Aida and Munda and their families. Carl Schneider Junior was born in Keiv on November 3, 1891. Because the Ukrainian calendar is 14 days behind ours, his papers say he was born on Oct 21, 1891. This was changed however when he arrived in Canada. Carl did not have the opportunity to attend school but worked on the farm with his dad. He did, however, have one chance to attend high school. Spivach an old Jew, had lost his only son in an accident while skating with Carl on a creek. He fell through the ice and was going a such a high speed that his head was severed from his body. Being a friend of his, Carl was asked to attend school at the Jew’s expense which, of course, he was unable to do.

In 1896, Carl’ Sr. Brother, Johann wife Justine (Mielke) came to Canada to live. In 1908, (Johann’s) John’s son John Jr. went back to visit family in Russia. He told the family much about Canada in an exaggerated manner & felt bitter about. So on March 20 1912, just before the first World War & the Russia Revolution., Carl, Julianna, Hilda, Aida, Munda, Carl Junior, Paulina and Elizabeth left Russia. They came to Canada with 5 younger chidren and including granddaughter Meta Klukas

Because of Carls Prestige in Russia, he was able to receive a passport to go from Russia to Germany. Most others had to sneak out. The family Stayed in Germany for six weeks waiting for passage and looking at the lad. They sailed on the freighter, Piza, from, Bremm (Hamburg), Germany. It took them 14 days to reach Canada. Orginally the family was to sail on the doomed Titanic but fortunately for them, they were looking for land at the time and missed the boat. It was also stated by Carl that 2 girls had eye infection, so they could not sail until this cleared up. This is mentioned in Aunt Pauline’s letter. On June 8th, They arrived in Quebec City. From here the family travelled to Edmonton arriving at 1030 p.m. and spent the night at Alex’s dad’s brother, John , the one who had visited Russia previously. The following day the journeyed to Bruderheim. Here they bought land (Alex’s quarter) for $4,000.00 with $1,000.00 down. When they arrived, all the homesteads were already taken up. Carl and Julianna did not like it here and did not want to remain. Life was very difficult at first. They had enough money to return to Germany but they both realized there was no future there. Wages were approximately .25 cent a day. In 1912, the Hudson’s Bay Company was selling some of its land so Carl bought the home place for $25.00 an acre. He paid one dollar down on each acre. At this time, nothing was broken, the land was covered with thick bush. Because they had only half a crop from their other quarter, Carl Sr. began to work out to help earn a living. In 1914, Carl Sr. became sick with cancer. Dr Archer in lamont saw the danger and wanted to cut out the Tumor but Carl Sr. Refused. This might have saved him. He then went to Edmonton for six weeks to seek help. None was available. At the end of 1914, He went to St Paul, Minneapolis, for nine months but was not cured. During October,1915, he returned home for a short while. In December, 1915, Carl Sr. travelled to Rochester, N. Y., but there was no hope. He passed away on February 29, 1916 at the age of 65 years. Burial was in the Bruderheim cemetery. The family lived a happy, normal life. Carl Sr. held himself above the others and held to the old way of life in Russia. He ate by himself, seldom with his family.

posted 3 Jun 2018 by Sharon Gabert   [thank Sharon]
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