Marthinus Johannes Schoeman
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Marthinus Johannes Schoeman (1819 - 1880)

Marthinus Johannes Schoeman
Born in Uitengage, Cape Colonymap
Ancestors ancestors
Husband of — married about 1839 (to 9 Nov 1873) [location unknown]
Husband of — married 22 Apr 1874 (to 30 Jun 1880) in Pretoria, Zuid-Afrikaansche Republiekmap
Descendants descendants
Died at age 60 in Vischershoek, Magaliesberg, Pretoria, Zuid-Afrikaansche Republicmap
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Biography

b1c3d1e4 Marthinus Johannes SCHOEMAN * 15.11.1819 = Uitenhage 29.3.1820 † Vissershoek 30.6.1880
x Maria Elizabeth ROBBERTSE * 30.9.1821 = 26.12.1821 † “Krokodildrift”, dist. Rustenburg 9.11.1873 d.v. Lambertus Nicolaas Robbertse en Catariena Helena Venter
xx Susanna Sophia DORFLING * 8.7.1821 = Uitenhage 3.4.1822 † Vissershoek 19.8.1882 d.v. Jacob Bernard Dorfling en Isabella Catarina Maria van Staden
f1 Marthinus Johannes * 31.12.1839 = Pietermaritzburg 5.7.1841 † Pretoria 10.9.1925
x NHK Rustenburg 28.9.1862 Anna Margaretha FOURIE * Natal c. 1845 † “Klipgat”, dist. Pretoria 13.7.1889
xx Pretoria 17.6.1895 Gertruida Jacoba Elizabeth ROBBERTZE * 24.4.1851
f2 Lambertus Nicolaas * 22.5.1842 = Pietermaritzburg 7.8.1842
x NHK Rustenburg 8.1.1864 Susanna Jacoba SNYMAN
f3 Stephanus Johannes * 4.3.1844 = Pietermaritzburg 28.7.1844
f4 Catharina Helena * 15.1.1846 = Smithfield 21.12.1848 † c. 1901
x Rustenburg 24.6.1863 Adriaan Sarel DE BEER * 20.1.1840 s.v. Johannes Frederik de Beer en Maria Elizabeth NN
f5 Elizabeth Maria * 19.9.1848 = Smithfield 21.12.1848
f6 Jan Hendrik SCHOEMAN * Krokodildrift 12.11.1850 = NHK Rustenburg 28.4.1851 † “Klipgat”, dist. Pretoria 9.5.1928
x Pretoria 19.3.1869 Cecilia Jacoba RAS * Rustenburg c. 1855 † Krokodildrift 19.5.1890 d.v. Willem Adriaan Ras en Jennie Christina Herman
xx Pretoria 17.11.1890 Johanna Jacomina LABUSCHAGNE * Rustenburg c. 1870
f7 Pieter Jacobus Stephanus * 5.4.1852 = NHK Rustenburg 14.4.1853
f8 Maria Elizabeth * Rustenburg 6.8.1860 = Pretoria 29.1.1861
x NHK Rustenburg 17.10.1874 Johannes Hendrickus Bakemeyer DE BEER * Lydenburg 14.1.1852 † Rustenburg 3.11.1900 s.v. Johannes Frederik de Beer en Geertruida Jacoba Robbertse
xx Pretoria 7.6.1912 Joseph Frederik FOURIE * Umlaas c. 1840
f9 Geertruida Jacoba Elizabetta * 1.10.1863 = NHK Rustenburg 25.12.1863 † c. 1936
x Pretoria 5.7.1880 Cornelis Johannes ENGELBRECHT * c. 1860 † c. 1936 s.v. Hermanus Nicolaas Engelbrecht en Aletta Gertruida Roos[1]

Geboorte en Doop

Birth • South Africa, Dutch Reformed Church Registers (Cape Town Archives), 1660-1970
Name: Marthinus Johannis Schoeman
Baptism Date: 29 Mar 1820
Baptism Place: South Africa
Birth Date: 15 Nov 1819
Parent Name: Marthinus Johannes Schoeman
Second Parent's Name: Elisabetha Maria Scheepers
Event Type: Baptism:
Bygevoeg deur Carl Schulze Scheepers

Huwelik 2

Name: Marthinus Johannes Schoeman - [Martinus Johe Schoeman] naam afgekort
Event Date: 22 Apr 1874 .
Event Place: Pretoria, Transvaal, South Africa .
Age: 55 .
Birth Year (Estimated): 1819 .
Spouse's Name: Susanna Sophia Dorfling Schoeman - [Sneranna Sophia Dorfling Schoeman] spelling -.
Spouse's Age: 52 .
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1822 . [2]

Sterfkennis

South Africa, Transvaal, Probate Records from the Master of the Supreme Court, 1869-1958:- . Name: Martinus Johannes Schoeman . Event Type: Probate . Event Date: 1880 . Event Place: Transvaal, South Africa . Age: 60 . Relationship to Deceased: Deceased . Birth Year (Estimated): 1820 . Birthplace: Kaap Kolonie . Death Date: 30 Jun 1880 . Death Place: Pretoria . Bygevoeg deur Carl Schulze Scheepers

Name

Name: Marthinus Johannes Schoeman[3]

Birth

Date: 15 Nov 1819[3]
Place: Waveren[4] / Uitenhage, Cape Colony[3]
Father: Marthinus Johannes Schoeman[3][5]
Mother: Elisabetha Maria Scheepers[3][5]

Baptism

Date: 29 Mar 1820[3]
Place: Uitenhage, Cape Colony[3]
[3] Schoeman Marthinus Johannes, geb. 15 Nov 1819; ged: 29 Maart 1820.
ouders Marthinús Johannes Schoeman & Elisabetha Maria Scheepers
Getuij Stephús Johannes Schoeman & Aletta Geertruida Schoeman
Marthinús Johannes Schoeman & Catharina Jacoba Engelbrecht
Henddrik Jansen van Vúúren & Helena Dorothea Jansen van Vúúren
Image:Schoeman-604-2.jpg

Marriage

First Marriage:
Date: ?
Place: ?
Groom: Martinus Johannes Schoeman[5]
Bride: Elisabeth Maria Robbertse [5]
Second Marriage
Date: 22 Apr 1884[6]
Place: Pretoria, Zuid-Afrikaansche Republic[6]
Groom: Martinus Johs Schoeman, 55 jaar, K.Kolonie, Weduwenaar, Landbouer, Distrik Rustenburg [6][5]
Bride: Susanna Sophia Schoeman geb. Dorfling, 52 jaar, K.Kolonie, Weduwe, Distrik Pretoria [6][5]

Death

Date: 30 Jun 1880[5]
Place: Vischershoek, Magaliesberg, Pretoria[5]
  • Fact: Christening (29 March 1820) Uitenhage, Cape Colony, South Africa
  • Fact: Baptism (29 Mar 1820) South Africa
  • Fact: Probate (1880) Pretoria, Transvaal, South Africa
  • Fact: USER_DEFINED (1880) Probate Transvaal, South Africa
  • Fact: Residence South Africa


Sources

  1. "Heese, J.A. & Lombard, R.T.J. “South African Genealogies 1” Human Sciences Research Council, 1992, ISBN 0-620-23962-1 v.11 p. 4". Added on 2 Nov 2019 by Ian McArthur
  2. South Africa, Transvaal, Civil Marriages, 1870-1930. Bygevoeg deur Carl Schulze Scheepers
  3. 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 3.4 3.5 3.6 3.7 Baptism Record: South Africa, Dutch Reformed Church Registers (Cape Town Archives), 1660-1970, database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSV8-7SG8-Y?cc=1478678 : 27 February 2022), > image 1 of 1; State Archives, Cape Province.Added by Catharina Christina Snyman on 16 May 2022.
  4. Added by Callie Scheepers on 6 November 2022.
  5. 5.0 5.1 5.2 5.3 5.4 5.5 5.6 5.7 Death Notice: South Africa, Transvaal, Probate Records from the Master of the Supreme Court, 1869-1958, database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS92-49LP-8?cc=2520237&wc=Q6NX-RBP%3A1590242323 : 14 February 2019), 007805267 > image 365 of 1339; Pietermaritzburg Archives (formerly Natal State Archives), South Africa. Added by Riël Smit on 2023-01-03.
  6. 6.0 6.1 6.2 6.3 2nd Marriage Record: South Africa, Transvaal, Civil Marriages, 1870-1930, database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C91J-1SZW-B?cc=2727134 : 16 December 2022), > image 1 of 1; Citing NARS "Civil registration (marriages - coloureds), Transvaal and Swaziland, 1898-1927." The National Archives and Records Service of South Africa, Pretoria. Added by Riël Smit on 2023-01-03.


Foto: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSV8-7SG8-Y?cc=1478678&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3A6XQT-XGW6

  • Huwelik 2 - "South Africa, Transvaal, Civil Marriages, 1870-1930," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGYV-22FZ : 4 May 2020), Martinus Johe Schreman and Sneranna Sophia Dorfling Schoeman, Pretoria, Thabazimbi, Transvaal, South Africa; citing Marriage, Pretoria, Thabazimbi, Transvaal, South Africa, NARS "Civil registration (marriages - coloureds), Transvaal and Swaziland, 1898-1927." The National Archives and Records Service of South Africa, Pretoria.

FOTO: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C91J-1SZW-B?cc=2727134&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AQGYV-22FZ

  • Sterkennis - "South Africa, Transvaal, Probate Records from the Master of the Supreme Court, 1869-1958," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QRJF-1L3Z : 7 April 2020), Martinus Johannes Schoeman, 1880; citing Probate, Transvaal, South Africa, Pietermaritzburg Archives (formerly Natal State Archives), South Africa; FHL microfilm .

FOTO: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS4F-V9MF-S?cc=2520237&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AQRJF-1L3Z

  • SOUTH AFRICAN GENEALOGIES Pretoria Human Science Research Council 1986 [Reprinted by Genealogical Institute of South Africa Stellenbosch 2007




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I believe the Anna Margritha Fourie that is linked here as the first wife is wrong. In his death notice Elisabeth Maria Robbertse is named as his first wife. In light of that I will be removing Anna as his wife as soon as I can verify the parents of the current children
posted on Schoeman-2172 (merged) by Riël Smit
edited by Riël Smit
I rejected the match with Schoeman-604 as I think you have the incorrect parents connected to Schoeman-2172. And the profile Schoeman-2163 is the matching profile with the correct parents.
posted on Schoeman-2172 (merged) by Mary (Pistorius) Rudd
Schoeman-2172 and Schoeman-604 appear to represent the same person because: Same vital information
Schoeman-2172 and Schoeman-604 do not represent the same person because: Theses are two different people. Schoeman-604 was still married to Maria Elizabeth Robbertze at her death in 1873. He then married Susanna Sophia Dorfling in 1874. Only these two spouse are mentioned on his death notice.
posted by Mary (Pistorius) Rudd
Schoeman-2172 and Schoeman-604 appear to represent the same person because: Obvious duplicates. The merge was previously rejected because Schoeman-2172 had an incorrect 1st wife with her children linked. This has now been corrected.
posted by Riël Smit
[Schoeman-604] is b1c3d1e4.

[Schoeman-313] is b1c12d10 son of:

Marthinus Jacobus » 20.4.1783
x Kaapstad 8.4.1804 Catharina Jacoba ENGELBRECHT = Oudtshoorn 13.10.1790 † Schoemanshoek 2.4.1863
d.v. Willem Engelbrecht en Catharina Coetzee
d10 Marthinus Johannes * Oudtshoorn 25.8.1823 = George 4.10.1823 † Rustenburg 29.11.1904
x NHK Potchefstroom 5.9.1849 Maria Elizabeth JACOBS * KP c. 1831 † “Rooikoppies”, dist. Rustenburg

21.5.1898

d.v. Daniël Rulof Jacobs en Anna Susanna Marais
posted by Ian McArthur
Schoeman-313 and Schoeman-604 are not ready to be merged because: Schoeman-313 has birth date of 1823 and marriage date of 1838. Same spouse as Schoeman-604 at marriage, but which is the correct date for Schoeman-313? If it is the marriage, then a possible match, but if the birth date is correct, then the marriage is incorrect and it is NOT a match.
posted by Mary (Pistorius) Rudd
Schoeman-313 and Schoeman-604 appear to represent the same person because: BIRTH DATE 25/8/1823

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