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Johann Philipp Schott (abt. 1811 - bef. 1850)

Johann Philipp (Philipp) Schott
Born about in Grimm, Saratov, Russiamap
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[spouse(s) unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died before before about age 39 in Grimm, Saratov, Russiamap
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Biography

Volga German
Philipp Schott was a Volga German.
Philipp Schott has German Roots.


Family #50 in the 1834 Grimm census.
Family #52 in the 1857 Grimm census.


1834 Grimm Census [1]

Family # 50
Head of the Household Heinrich Schott, age 49
Wife Katharina Barbara Schott, age 43
Child #1 Heinrich Jakob Schott, age 25
Wife of Child #1 Anna Elisabeth Schott, age 25
Grandchild #1 Johann Konrad Schott, age 2
Child #2 Johann Philipp Schott, age 23
Child #3 Konrad Schott, age 21
Child #4 Katharina Elisabeth Schott, age 19
Child #5 Katharina Barbara Schott, age 17
Child #6 Johann Peter Schott, age 15
Child #7 Heinrich Schott, age 5


Johann Philipp Schott was probably deceased by 1857. Three of his children were living with his brother in family #52. Initially they are listed as children of an "unknown" Schott brother. In comparing the 1834 census to the 1857 census entries for this family, the only brother not listed in the 1857 listed for household #52 is Johann Philipp. His wife is not listed either, but she might have married again and lived in a different household. Clearly the children stayed behind to live with their father's family.


1857 Grimm Census [2]

See Grandchildren 11, 12, and 14 and the comments after this entry.

Family # 52
Head of the Household Katharina Barbara Schott, age 69
Child #1 Heinrich Jakob Schott, age 48
Wife of Child #1 Katharina Schott, age 42, second wife
Grandchild #1 Konrad Schott, age 25
Wife of Grandchild #1 Katharina Elisabeth Schott, age 22
Child #2 Konrad Schott, age 44
Grandchild #2 Heinrich Peter Schott, age 12 in 1850, deceased 1851
Grandchild #3 Anna Katharina Schott, age 15
Grandchild #4 Johann Jakob Schott, age 6 months in 1850, deceased 1851
Grandchild #5 Heinrich Jakob Schott, age 5
Child #3 Johann Peter Schott, age 37
Wife of Child #3 Anna Katharina Schott, age 28
Grandchild #6 Johann Jakob Schott, age 6
Grandchild #7 Heinrich Peter Schott, age 4
Grandchild #8 Elisabeth Margaretha Schott, age 3
Grandchild #9 Jakob Peter Schott, age 2
Child #4 Heinrich Schott, age 28
Wife of Child #4 Maria Barbara Schott, age 31
Grandchild #10 Maria Elisabeth Schott, age 5
Grandchild #10 Heinrich Schott, age 4
Grandchild #10 Johann Jakob Schott, age 2
Grandchild #10 Katharina Elisabeth Schott, age 9 months
Grandchild #11 Johann Jakob Schott, age 14 in 1850, deceased 1852 [probably Johann Philipp Schott, only son not mentioned in this census entry]
Grandchild #12 Heinrich Peter Schott, age 12 in 1850 [age 19 in 1857?], grandson by an unnamed son [probably Johann Philipp Schott, only son not mentioned in this census entry]
Grandchild #13 Johann Friedrich Schott, age 1 in 1850, deceased 1852, stepson of Heinrich Schott, illegitimate son of his wife Maria Barbara Schott, no other surname listed for him
Grandchild #14 Maria Katharina Schott, age 17, niece by an unnamed brother [probably Johann Philipp Schott, only son not mentioned in this census entry]


The above census lists three of the last four entries as children of an unnamed son. When holding the 1857 census listing side-by-side with the 1834 census, only son Johann Philipp Schott is missing from the family. Because his death is not noted, he probably died before 1850, at which time his death was noted in the male-only census that came out that year. Their mother had either remarried and was living with another family, or she was deceased.

The last entry is for Maria Katharina Schott, and instead of describing her as someone's child, she is described as someone's niece. It appears that she is in fact the older sister of Johann Jakob and Heinrich Peter Schott. By describing her as a niece, it points out her relationship to Heinrich Schott, the last child in the census. Yes, she was Heinrich Schott's niece, but that also made her the daughter of unnamed brother of Heinrich, Johann Philipp Schott.

All four of these children were the grandchildren of Johann Heinrich Schott of this profile and his wife Katharina Barbara, who became the head of the household after her husband's death.


Sources

  1. 1834 Census of Grimm in the District of Saratov, Russia, dated 2 February 1835; Translated by Brent Mai, Concordia University, Portland, Oregon; Published by Dynasty Publishing, Beaverton, OR, USA; Published 2011; page 15, family #50, Heinrich Schott family.
  2. 1857 Census of Grimm in the District of Saratov, Russia, dated 5 November 1857; Translated by Brent Mai, Concordia University, Portland, Oregon; Published by Dynasty Publishing, Beaverton, OR, USA; Published 2005; page 20, family #52, Katharina Barbara Schott family.




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