Katherine (Schultheis) Meisner
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Katherine (Schultheis) Meisner (1891 - 1952)

Katherine "Katie" Meisner formerly Schultheis aka Schuldies, Schuldeis
Born in Grimm, Kamyshin, Saratov, Russiamap
Ancestors ancestors
Wife of — married Mar 1912 in Grimm, Saratov, Russiamap
Descendants descendants
Died in Greeley, Weld County, Coloradomap
Profile last modified | Created 7 May 2017
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Biography

Volga German
Katherine (Schultheis) Meisner is a Volga German.
Katherine (Schultheis) Meisner has German Roots.

Katherine Schultheis (Schuldies) was born on 19 Feb 1891 in Grimm, Volga, Russia.[1] She was one of six known children born to her German-Russian parents, Konrad Schultheis and Catharina Barbara Wunder.

Katherine married Fredrick Meisner and they left the Volga village for America. The couple traveled from Grimm to Libau where they purchased their passports and ship tickets. Their passports were issued on 14 Mar 1912 and a stamp reflecting they were going abroad completed 19 Mar 1912.[2] They remained in Libau until the ship S.S. Lituania departed on 1 Apr sailing for 16 days arriving at Ellis Island in New York. They most likely took the train bound for what was then called New Windsor, Colorado, the area where the sugar factory production was welcoming all beet laborers.

They arrived in Colorado in April of 1912 first living in Windsor, where they had their first child Amalia and then son Frederick Jr. Their second son Alexander was born in Eaton in 1915. Their third son Henry was born in Windsor. Daughter, Clara, was born in Gill in December of 1919 and died five months later in 1920. Daughter Emma was born two years later, in Eaton and their last son Herman was born in Ault in 1924.

Clara Meisner Funeral May 1920-Father Frederick second from right and Mother Katherine third from right

The family worked as beet laborers, their family like many in Weld County who impacted the sugar beet industry. The family can be found In 1930 census records in Precinct 39 which was the area east of Evans renting a farm and then in 1940, Fred, Katherine and youngest son Herman are farm tenants in Barnesville (Precinct 19).

Wittman-Meisner Family - Beet Harvest 1917, Severance CO Left to Right: #1 Johann Georg Wittman (brother-in-law to Katherine); #2 Katherina Elisabetha (Schultheis) Wittman (sister to Katherine); #3 Carl Meisner (brother to Fred); #4 Katherine (Schultheis) Meisner; and #5 Frederick Meisner Sr.

In March of 1937 Fred and Katherine Meisner celebrated their Silver Wedding Anniversary of 25 years with a celebration with family and friends.[3]

Fred and Katherine Meisner - Silver Anniversary

In 1946, Fred and Katherine are listed in the directory as retired living at 1625 7th Avenue in Greeley.[4][5] Six years later, Katherine passed away in February of 1952 leaving a grieving husband and five living children and many grandchildren. She was 61 years old and 7 days.

Name

  • Katherine (Schuldies) Meisner
Her siblings have Schuldeis listed as their legal names and Schuldheis is another variation. Grimm Census records reflect the name: Schultheis. The name eventually can be found in German records as Scholtes or Schultheiß.

Name Meaning

Schultheis Name Meaning
German (Schultheiss) and Dutch: status name from Middle High German schultheize ‘village headman’. The term originally denoted a man responsible for collecting dues and paying them to the lord of the manor. See also Schultz 1.[6]
"In medieval Germany, the Schultheiß (German: [ˈʃʊltaɪs]) was the head of a municipality (akin to today's office of mayor), a Vogt or an executive official of the ruler. As official (villicus) it was his duty to order his assigned village or county (villicatio) to pay the taxes and perform the services due to the ruler. The name originates from this function: Schuld ‘debt’ + heißen ‘to order’. Later, the title was also used for the head of a town (Stadtschultheiß) or village (Dorfschultheiß)."[7]

Germanic Origin

  • AHSGR German Origins - SchultheissFN: SchuldeisFN: said by the Kraft FSL to be from UC Holzhausen, Darmstadt. Later spelled Schulteis. SchuldeisFN: said by the Kraft FSL to be from UC Stammheim, Isenburg. SchuldeisFN: also see Schulteis. SchuldenbergerFN: said by the Hildmann [8]
  • Katherine's second great-grandfather Johann Heinrich Schultheis can be tracked to Waldlaubersheim, Kreis Kreuznach, Rheinland, Preußen where he was born. Johann Heinrich then farmed in Darmstadt, Hesse prior to immigrating and then settling in Grimm, Saratov, Russia.

Grimm, Volga Census

  • Katharina, age 5, in 1897 village of Grimm; #9 in Family #285, living with brother as head of household along with widowed mother and siblings[9]

Marriage

  • 15 Mar-Apr 1912 Grimm, Russia to Fredrick Meisner[10]
    • [Note: Their marriage date had to be in February or March 1912 because the couple was in Libau on 14 Mar 1912 and then sailing on the ship from 1-17 Apr 1912. The date of April 15 1912 given by AHSGR Grimm VC shows a marriage record prior to leaving the Volga village. Given the 1937 Silver Anniversary date, the correct date could be a month or two earlier than April 1912.]
  • Katherine 20 years of age and Friedrich 21 at time of marriage[11]

Immigration

  • 1 Apr 1912 - Departing: Libau, Russia via SS Lituania[12]
Departure: Libau 1 Apr 1912-Meisners
  • 16 Apr 1912 - Arrival: Ellis Island, New York, New York, USA[13]
Arrival: Ellis Island, NY 16 Apr 1912-Meisners
  • Ship manifest lists line 10: Friedrich, male, 22, married, farm laborer, Krim (Grimm), wife Anna Meisner, final destination New Windsor, CO, traveling with [ line 11] Katharina Meisner, female, 24, single, domestic, Krim (Grimm) [second page], paid for tickets themselves, $64 (in possession of $50 or more), traveling to brother-in-law in New Windsor (Morris Baumann??), both in good health, Friedrich being 5'4" light complexion, dark hair, brown eyes; and Katharina 4'10" light complexion, dark hair, gray eyes.
  • Ship manifest does have information crossed out as to final destination, so maybe there was some translation confusion. The AHSGR Grimm VCs do show a marriage date, so the writer of the manifest must have made an error in regard to her marital status. The difference of two years in their ages (she being older) is confusing but based upon the physical description of these two heading for America, the passport details, this is only likely ship manifest.
  • It is unclear what the listing "Anna Meisner wife" means on the ship manifest. She could be a possible previous wife who died in Russia.
  • Katherine's great nephew shared that Katherine and Fred were both very short in height and this fits the description from the manifest.
  • Obituaries for both Frederick and Katherine note their immigration date of 1912. Census records also list both he and Katherine coming from Russia in 1912.

Children

U.S. Census

  • 1920 U.S. Census
1930 U.S. Census-Fred Meisner, Sr.
  • 15 Apr 1930 U.S. Census, Katherine Meisner, wife to Fred Miesner [Meisner], age 41, Farming, house rented in Precinct 39 [East of Evans] in Weld, Colorado[14]
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Fred Miesner Head Male 41 Russia
Katherine Miesner Wife Female 40 Russia
Fred Miesner Jr. Son Male 16 Colorado
Alec Miesner Son Male 14 Colorado
Henry Miesner Son Male 13 Colorado
Amy [Emma ] Miesner Daughter Female 7 Colorado
Herman Miesner Son Male 6 Colorado
1940 U.S. Census-Fred Meisner Sr.
  • 1940 U.S. Census, Katie Meisner, wife to Fred Musner [Meisner], age 50, Farm Tenant in Barnesville, Weld, Colorado[15]
Household Members
Fred Musner, age 50, Russia [inaccurately transcribed]
Katie Musner, age 49, Russia
Herman Musner, age 16, Colorado
Lowell Luttrell, age 20, hired man born in Grover, Colorado

Death

  • 26 Feb 1952 in Greeley, Weld, Colorado, USA[16][17]
  • Burial: Linn Grove Cemetery, Greeley, Colorado; Plot: Blk 21, lot 62, spc 1
  • Find A Grave: Memorial #65229078

Obituary

Katherine Schultheis Meisner Obituary

DNA

  • Maternal relationship is confirmed for Katherine Schultheis to her mother Catharina Barbara Wunder. Paternal relationship is confirmed by an AncestryDNA test match between L.W. and her second cousin G.M.. Their most-recent common ancestor is their great grandmother, Catharina Barbara Wunder. Predicted relationship from AncestryDNA: 3rd-4th Cousins, based on sharing 158 cM across 8 segments. Actual: 2C on Wunder line.

Sources

  1. Schmick, Henry. AHSGR Grimm Village Coordinator, 20 Apr 2018, as told to Koreen Goodman via email. Family report in the possession of Koreen Goodman.
  2. Passport Documentation original with family of Frederick Meisner, Jr., Gail Meisner holds original: Page 3, Scan0008; "Presenter of this Russian citizen farmer Friedrich Alexandrovich (the son of Alexander) Meisner 21 years old, with his wife Katharina, 20 years old, goes abroad."Passport issued in the city of Libau, March 14, 1912. stamp about going abroad March 19, 1912; translated by husband, Roman Ilvutikov, of cousin Katerina Ilvutikov of Krasnoyarsk, Russia, family to sister Emilia Meisner of Frederick Meisner, Sr.; copies in possession of Koreen Goodman, great-granddaughter.
  3. Newspapers.com; Greeley Daily Tribune, Greeley, Colorado, USA; 6 Mar 1937, Saturday, Page 7; https://www.newspapers.com/image/24962027/?terms=fred%2Bmeisner&xid=637; accessed by Koreen Goodman on 22 Jan 2019.
  4. U.S. City Directories, 1822-1989; Publication Title Greeley, Colorado, City Directory, 1946; Author: Ancestry.com; Publisher: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Publisher Date: 2011; Publisher Location: Provo, UT, USA
  5. Stencel, John; Personal email to Koreen Goodman from great nephew to Katherine; 24 Jul 2018: Relative who would be great-nephew of Katherine remembers helping his mother deliver eggs, butter, and cream to 1625 7th Avenue residence.
  6. Ancestry.com Name meaning; Source: Dictionary of American Family Names ©2013, Oxford University Press
  7. Wikipedia contributors, "Schultheiß," Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Schulthei%C3%9F&oldid=794162082 (accessed July 26, 2018).
  8. Dona Reeves-Marquardt found the record for the baptism of Herr Schulteiss in the church records in Waldlaubersheim, Kreis Kreuznach, Rheinland. This family first settled in Grimm where they arrived before 1775 Grimm census #73 (but not in time to be included in the FSL) and were included in the 1775 census (household 73) there. For 1798 see Mai1798:86. www.ahsgr.org/?page=GermanOrigins
  9. 1897 Grimm (Lesnoi Karamysh), Russia Census List, Translated by Richard Rye, Compiled and Edited by John Groh, Contributor Henry Schmick; American Historical Society of Germans from Russia, Lincoln, Nebraska, USA; Published 2017. #9. Katharina, sister, 5; No. 285, pages 249 and 250
  10. Schmick, Henry, Grimm village coordinator, American Historical Society of Germans from Russia; marriage date of 15 Apr 1912 Grimm, Russia.
  11. 1930 United States Federal Census - Detail Year: 1930; Census Place: Precinct 39, Weld, Colorado; Roll: 252; Page: 2B; Enumeration District: 0064; Image: 239.0; FHL microfilm: 2339987; www.ancestry.com
  12. "New York Passenger Arrival Lists (Ellis Island), 1892-1924," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9TH-5LPW?cc=1368704&wc=4X1L-Q6C%3A1600502350 : 26 January 2018), Roll 1841, vol 4079-4081, 16 Apr 1912 > image 1201 of 1278; citing NARA microfilm publication T715 and M237 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.).
  13. "New York Passenger Arrival Lists (Ellis Island), 1892-1924," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9TH-5LYQ?cc=1368704&wc=4X1L-Q6C%3A1600502350 : 23 February 2018), Roll 1841, vol 4079-4081, 16 Apr 1912 > image 1202 of 1278; citing NARA microfilm publication T715 and M237 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.).
  14. "United States Census, 1930," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7W8-WMJ : accessed 14 June 2019), Katherine Miesner in household of Fred Miesner, Precinct 39, Weld, Colorado, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) ED 64, sheet 2B, line 55, family 38, NARA microfilm publication T626 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 2002), roll 252; FHL microfilm 2,339,987.
  15. Year: 1940; Census Place: Barnesville, Weld, Colorado; Roll: m-t0627-00481; Page: 2B; Enumeration District: 62-33; Source Information Title: 1940 United States Federal Census; Author: Ancestry.com; Publisher Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Publisher Date: 2012; Publisher Location Provo, UT, USA
  16. Greeley Daily Tribune, 27 Feb 1952, Wednesday, Page 11; "Katherine Meisner Dies Here Tuesday" [Death 26 Feb 1952]; Clipping from Family Scrapbook of Frederick Meisner, Jr.
  17. Greeley Tribune, Page 11, 27 Feb 1952, www.ancestry.com and Newspapers.com; Greeley Daily Tribune, Greeley, Colorado, USA; 27 Feb 1952, Page 11; https://www.newspapers.com/image/27264496/?terms=meisner; accessed by Koreen Goodman 22 Jan 2019.
  • Groh, John, & Schmick, Henry, Village Coordinators for Grimm, Russia; American Historical Society of Germans from Russia (AHSGR)
  • United States, Obituaries, American Historical Society of Germans from Russia, 1899-2012," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVSQ-C7B3 : 31 July 2014), Alec Meisner, 06 Mar 1986; citing Obituary, in "Greeley Tribune"; American Historical Society of Germans from Russia, Lincoln.

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