Jakob Schuppe (1840)

Born 1840 in Grimm, Saratov, Russia

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Died [date unknown] in Grimm, Saratov, Russia

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Biography

Jakob Schuppe was a Volga German.

Jakob Schuppe has German Roots.

Family #88 in the 1857 Grimm census.

Johann Friedrich Schuppe was born 13 September 1863 in Grimm, Russia, to parents Jakob Schuppe and Elisabeth "Betty" Schmidt. ^[1]

1857 Grimm Census ^[2]

Family # 88

Head of the Household Johannes Schope/Schupe, age 55

Wife Elisabeth Schope/Schupe, age 57

Child #1 Georg Heinrich Schope/Schupe, age 30

Wife of Child #1 Katharina Barbara Schope/Schupe, age 24

Grandchild #1 Anna Elisabeth Schope/Schupe, age 2

Grandchild #2 Katharina Margaretha Schope/Schupe, age 6 weeks

Child #2 Johann Friedrich Schope/Schupe, age 23

Child #3 Johann Jakob Schope/Schupe, age 20

Child #4 Georg Jakob Schope/Schupe, age 17

Research Notes

Family records identify his father as Jakob Schuppe. All Schuppes descend from Wilhelm Schuppe, family #69 in the 1798 census. He had a son, Georg Jakob Schuppe, whose two sons represent the split of the family into two branches:

• Heinrich Wilhelm Schuppe

Family #80 in the 1834 census

Family #86 in the 1857 census

• Johannes Schuppe

Family #82 in the 1834 census

Family #88 in the 1857 census

The father of Johann Friedrich Schuppe of this profile is from one of those family lines. One man is his father, and the other is his uncle. His name has a Jakob in it, which narrows down the possibilities. To narrow that down even more, I made this assumption:

• The correct Jakob had to be at least 17 years old to have a child in 1863, giving him a minimum birth year of 1846: 1863-17=1846.

• Then I subtracted 1846 from 1857 to get his age at the time of the 1857 census: 1857=1846=11.

• This means his father had to have been at least 11 years old in the 1857 census.

Here are the men named Jakob Schuppe who were at least 11 years old in the 1857 Grimm census. ^[3]

Family #86

1. Philipp Jakob Schuppe, 42 years old, wife Katharina Elisabeth was 40 years old, so she would have been 46 years old at the time of Johann Friedrich's birth
2. Johann Jakob Schuppe, 11 years 6 months old, he would have been between 17 and 18 at the time of Johann Friedrich's birth
3. Johann Jakob Schuppe, 25 years old, he would have been 30 years old at the time of Johann Friedrich's birth, wife Katharina, age 21, she would have been 26 at the time of Johann Friedrich's birth

Of these three possibilities, number 3 can be eliminated because his wife's name was not Elisabeth.

Family #88

1. Johann Jakob Schuppe, 20 years old, he would have been 25 at the time of Johann Friedrich's birth
2. Georg Jakob Schuppe, 17 years old, he would have been 22 at the time of Johann Friedrich's birth

Sources

1. ↑ Cotton Street Times, 3 Generations in America, The Schuppe Family Album 1912-2016, compiled information by Carol Johnson and Steve Pennings, information is from documents and family papers in the possession of Schuppe descendants and allied family members. Published 2016, copy in the personal files of Julie Mangano, Round Rock, Texas.
2. ↑ 1857 Census of Grimm in the District of Saratov, Russia, dated 5 November 1857; Translated by Brent Mai, Concordia University, Portland, Oregon; Published by Dynasty Publishing, Beaverton, OR, USA; Published 2005; page 35, family #88, Johannes Schope/Schupe, family #88.
3. ↑ 1857 Census of Grimm in the District of Saratov, Russia, dated 5 November 1857; Translated by Brent Mai, Concordia University, Portland, Oregon; Published by Dynasty Publishing, Beaverton, OR, USA; Published 2005; pages 34-35, family #86 and family #88.