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Berthold (Schweinfurt) von Schweinfurt (915 - 980)

Berthold (Berthold I) von Schweinfurt formerly Schweinfurt aka von Babenberg, von Nordgau
Born in Babenberg, Oberfranken, Bavaria, Germanymap
Ancestors ancestors
Son of [uncertain] and [mother unknown]
Husband of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 65 in Schwaben, Kelheim, Bayern, Germanymap
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Biography

Alias

Alias: Berthold von Bavaria

Title

Title: Margrave of Bavaria
Title: Margrave of the Nordgau

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VonBabenberg-2 and Schweinfurt-31 appear to represent the same person because: See https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/VonBabenberg-2#comment_5180963
posted by Traci Thiessen
Luitpolding-5 and VonBabenberg-2 are not ready to be merged because: Like many family groups from this early time period, there are actually no primary sources that confirm that Berthold is the son of Arnulf of the Luitpoldinger dynasty. Historians/Genealogists however do theorise relationships based on naming patterns and/or ruling over the same or adjoining territories and there are various theories that propose that the

Schweinfurt and Babenberg dynasties originate from the Luitpoldinger family. The most common relationship is that Berthold is the son of Arnulf, but he could also be his grandson, or son or grandson of Arnulf's brother also called Berthold, or from an entirely different dynasty. See for instance the English and German versions of Berthold's Wikipedia page, or the Genealogie Mittelalter page http://www.manfred-hiebl.de/genealogie-mittelalter/luitpoldinger/berthold_graf_von_schweinfurt_980/berthold_graf_von_schweinfurt_+_980.html Charles Cawley also points out that there are some chronological difficulties in making Berthold the son of Arnulf https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BAVARIAN%20NOBILITY.htm#Bertholddied980 I would suggest that given there is no definite relationship that before this merge takes place that we use the LNAB Schweinfurt and not Luitpolding for Berthold (which should be changed on one of the profiles before the merge takes place) and that if Arnulf is retained as father, then that relationship is marked as uncertain.

posted on VonBabenberg-2 (merged) by John Atkinson
VonBabenberg-2 and Luitpolding-5 appear to represent the same person because: same father, dob, same childrens names
posted on Luitpolding-5 (merged) by Traci Thiessen
Unfortunately, I don't know you Jacky. Can you tell me why you want to be co-manager and what changes you intend to make?
posted on VonBabenberg-2 (merged) by Scott Wynter
Please add [email address removed] as comanager of this profile. Thank You Jacky
posted on Luitpolding-5 (merged) by Jacqueline Clark
Please add [email address removed] as comanager of this profile. Thank You Jacky
posted on VonBabenberg-2 (merged) by Jacqueline Clark
Von Schweinfurt-18 and Schweinfurt-10 appear to represent the same person because: Clear duplicate, Schweinfurt without the Von, should be the LNAB according to naming guidelines
posted on Luitpolding-5 (merged) by John Atkinson

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