Richard Shelley
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Richard Shelley

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Richard A. Shelley
Born 1990s.
Ancestors ancestors
Son of [private father (1960s - unknown)] DNA confirmed and [private mother (1970s - unknown)] DNA confirmed
Brother of [private brother (1990s - unknown)]
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Contents

Biography

Disclaimers (important to read)

  1. I attempt to be prompt in replying to comments or Private Messages however that being said, I'm dealing with Crohn's Disease and I'm not always in the frame of mind to be doing anything.
  2. I can, and have made mistakes.
  3. I am a person and I do not know all things.

About Me

Just a few notes

  • If you wish to post your connection with me, please leave a comment here
  • Here is the current entirety of my activity here on WikiTree
  • Regarding languages: During what we (here in New Zealand) call intermediate, I learnt basic French and as I was learning Spanish I found I was switching between French, Spanish and Italian. At the same time, at home I was learning the Ancient Greek, Egyptian hieroglyphs, Norse Futhark and the Russian Cyrillic alphabets all because I felt like it. Now? I can read and translate Danish and Romanian if it is typed out, I can also understand elements of Arabic (symbol recognition). I can listen to conversations in Afrikaans, Telugu or Filipino and be able to have a firm understanding of exactly was being said (even though I have no ability in speaking the language). I am not a linguist!

Ethnicity Breakdown Known Ancestry
Richard Shelley is 47.9% English.
Richard Shelley is 20.7% Scandinavian.
Richard Shelley is 16.9% Irish, Scottish & Welsh.
Richard Shelley is 13.7% North and West European.
Richard Shelley is 0.8% Unknown.
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Richard Shelley has English ancestors.
Danish Roots
Richard Shelley has Danish ancestors
Swedish Roots
Richard Shelley has Swedish ancestors
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Richard Shelley has Scottish Ancestors.
Richard Shelley has Irish ancestors.
Richard Shelley is the descendant of a Huguenot emigrant.
Richard Shelley has French origins.
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Richard Shelley has Welsh ancestors.
New Zealand
Richard Shelley lived in Palmerston North, Manawatū-Whanganui, New Zealand.

Note: These classifications came from MyHeritage. A few things to point out:

  1. Scandinavian is a mix of Danish and Swedish.
  2. Irish, Scottish & Welsh: Combination on both sides of the family
  3. North and West European refers to French Huguenot, it is theorized that this includes German (surname entomology is the basis of this hypothesis)
  4. The 0.8% Unknown, according to the test results this is Middle Eastern however no one was ever born or lived there (within the required generation to achieve that percentage). The closest location was India however that is a whole different genetic region.

Known Languages Featurettes
en
This user is a native speaker of English.
fr-2
Cet utilisateur peut contribuer avec un niveau intermédiaire en français.
es-2
Este usuario puede contribuir con un nivel intermedio de español.
it-2
Questo utente può contribuire con un livello intermedio di italiano.
Richard Shelley is a member of the Shelley Name Study Project.
This profile is part of the Shelley Name Study.
Richard was featured in a Meet Our Members Post on the WikiTree Blog!
Richard Shelley is a member of the Lock Name Study Project.
Richard Shelley is a member of the Valpy Name Study Project.
Richard Shelley is a member of the Fabrin Name Study Project.
Connect-a-Thon participation Source-a-Thon participation
Richard Shelley participated with The Kiwi Crew during the 2019 Connect-a-Thon, and added 100 connections.
Richard Shelley participated with The Kiwi Crew during the 2020 Connect-a-Thon, and added 395 connections.
Richard Shelley participated with The Kiwi Crew during the 2017 Source-a-Thon, adding sources to 18 previously unsourced profiles.
Richard Shelley participated with The Kiwi Crew during the 2018 Source-a-Thon, adding sources to 5 previously unsourced profiles.
Richard Shelley participated with The Kiwi Crew during the 2020 Source-a-Thon, adding sources to 2 previously unsourced profiles.

Why am I doing this?

Person/Profile/Surname Comments
John Parker MosleyAs I started out, one of the common things I heard from my grandparents is that I am related to Queen Elizabeth II. [1]As I'm not a royal enthusiast, I didn't believe them... Until I uploaded my GEDCOM. Sometime after tidying up a portion of John's progeny, I felt it was appropriate to join in on the ONS
ShelleyI had been aware of my grandfather's notes on the family for a few years, and had heard whispers of a few 'bad eggs'/skeletons loitering in the background.[2] I also was aware of the existence of the Percy Shelley's (the poets), thanks to the dreaded English subject during High School. After joining Wikitree, imagine the feeling in that there was in fact a third PGM branch... Naturally, this has evolved into an ONS, and this is one of the two hardest that I'm invested in. I've discovered a number of researchers are fabricating a link that joins my Shelley branch with aristocratic Shelley branch
Lock There a few things that I had been told regarding this family, but there was a lot I was unprepared for. At first I was surprised to learn that the family had came from Guernsey. That surprise faded but reemerged when I discovered that that was incorrect as an earlier generation had in fact immigrated to Guernsey from Carolina (at the time of writing this I forget whether it was North or South) and with an unfamiliar surname spelling that is recorded nowhere else. And of course when you find that the family has Huguenot and Scottish ties...
ValpyOne of the easiest families to be a descendant of and to try find information on. Current roots track back to Jersey, with generation spreads out from through to New Zealand, England, Nova Scotia and Salem. You would be surprised to uncover how many 'notables' there are associated with this family
FabrinI knew from an early age that our family got caught up in the Second Schleswig War[3] , what I didn't realize was that a couple of decades earlier, two brothers had fought during the War of the Third Coalition. One of whom was severely wounded and was left in Italy (at 19). His progeny is the other difficulty. Danish researchers have no idea about them, and the Italian descendants can't agree on the correct generations, and to make things worse FamilySearch does not help with tracking down information
Military historyMy interest in military history did not come from the story that my great grandfathers were enlisted during World War II[4]. For a number of years I'd been interesting in Ancient and Medieval military history (the rumours of being a Viking descendant certainly helped), I was playing computer games based on that sort of thing (Total War anyone?), and reading the likes of Bernard Cornwall. So, as I was filing through the information on all the branches and started seeing dates which corresponded a war (not just the Second Boer War, World War I, World War II or Korea), the names were being noted down, a new tab was being opened and combing through the available commentary on the war to determine what happened, why it happened and where it happened. (There have been a few cases where Google Maps needed to be used in tandem to pinpoint point of death (both on land and at sea))

Sources

  1. McBride, B.; Buchanan, N.; McBride, A. : Personal recollection, as told to Richard Shelley in numerous conversations. Notes in the possession of Richard Shelley.
  2. Stephens, A. : Personal recollection, as told to Richard Shelley in conversation. Notes in the possession of Richard Shelley.
  3. Lock, P. : Personal recollection, as told to Richard Shelley in conversation. Notes in the possession of Richard Shelley.
  4. McBride, B.; Shelley, V. : Personal recollection, as told to Richard Shelley in numerous conversations. Notes in the possession of Richard Shelley.
  • First-hand information from myself (obviously)...

DNA Relationships

Description
Paternal relationship is confirmed by a MyHeritageDNA test match between Richard Shelley and his 2nd cousin twice removed Chris Clark. Their most-recent common ancestors are James Shelley and Alice Barratt, the 3rd great grandparents of Richard Shelley and the great grandparents of his cousin. Predicted relationship from MyHeritage: 1st cousin twice removed to 2nd cousin twice removed, based on sharing 130.6 cM across 6 segments.
Paternal relationship is confirmed by a MyHeritageDNA test match between Richard Shelley and his 1st cousin twice removed Maxine Townley. Their most-recent common ancestors are Edward Townley and Mary Blanchard, the 2nd great grandparents of Richard Shelley and the grandparents of his cousin. Predicted relationship from MyHeritage: 3rd cousin to 5th cousin, based on sharing 55.1 cM across 3 segments.
Paternal relationship is confirmed by a MyHeritageDNA test match between Richard Shelley and his 2nd cousin once removed Anne Gordon. Their most-recent common ancestors are Hans Peter Hansen Fabrin and Maren Julie Jørgensen, the 2nd great grandparents of Richard Shelley and the 1st great grandparents of his cousin. Predicted relationship from MyHeritage: 3rd cousin to distant cousin, based on sharing 22.0 cM across 3 segments.

Description
Maternal relationship is confirmed by a MyHeritageDNA test match between Richard Shelley and his 2nd cousin twice removed David Winter. Their most-recent common ancestors are William Henry Valpy and Penelope Caroline Every, the 3rd great grandparents of Richard Shelley and the great grandparents of his cousin. Predicted relationship from MyHeritage: 1st cousin twice removed to 2nd cousin twice removed, based on sharing 112.5 cM across 7 segments.
Maternal relationship is confirmed by a MyHeritageDNA test match between Richard Shelley and his 2nd cousin twice removed Beverley McFetridge. Their most-recent common ancestors are Thomas Jackson and Harriet Judd, the 3rd great grandparents of Richard Shelley and the great grandparents of his cousin. Predicted relationship from MyHeritage: 3rd cousin to 5th cousin, based on sharing 27.5 cM across 1 segments.
Maternal relationship is confirmed by a MyHeritageDNA test match between Richard Shelley and his 2nd cousin twice removed Doreen Howes. Their most-recent common ancestors are Thomas Jackson and Harriet Judd, the 3rd great grandparents of Richard Shelley and the great grandparents of his cousin. Predicted relationship from MyHeritage: 3rd cousin to distant cousin, based on sharing 11.8 cM across 2 segments.
Maternal relationship is confirmed by a MyHeritageDNA test match between Richard Shelley and his 1st cousin twice removed Sherryl Redhead. Their most-recent common ancestors are Andrew Fyfe Buchanan and Lavinia Nielsen, the 2nd great grandparents of Richard Shelley and the grandparents of his cousin. Predicted relationship from MyHeritage: 1st cousin twice removed to 2nd cousin twice removed, based on sharing 34.5 cM across 12 segments.
Maternal relationship is confirmed by a triangulated group on MyHeritageDNA consisting of Allan Reid, Richard Shelley and Tania Rivett who share 7.4cM on chromosome 13. Allan and Richard are 1C2R, Allan and Tania are ?C?R; Richard and Tania are 2C2R. The most-recent common ancestors are Richard Cogar Bryant and Mary Ann Josephine Lyons
Maternal relationship is confirmed by a triangulated group on MyHeritageDNA consisting of Ivan John Roberts, Richard Shelley, and Jennifer McDiarmid, who share a 9.7 cM segment on chromosome 14. Ivan and Richard are 3C2R; Ivan and Jennifer are 3C1R; Jennifer and Richard are 3C2R. The most-recent common ancestors shared by all three are David Benge and Matilda Roberts.
Maternal relationship is confirmed by triangulated group on MyHeritageDNA consisting of Deanna Butler, Richard Shelley and Tania Rivett, who share 7.2cM on chromosome 6. Deanna and Richard are 4C, Deanna and Tania are 3C1R; Richard and Tania are 2C2R. The most-recent common ancestors shared by all three are William Henry Valpy and Penelope Caroline Every
Maternal relationship is confirmed by triangulated group on MyHeritageDNA consisting of John Cottle, Richard Shelley and Jean Tuanui, who share 23.1cM on chromosome 21. John and Richard are 3C2R, John and Jean are 3C1R; Richard and Jean are 4C1R. The most-recent common ancestors shared by all three are David Benge and Matilda Roberts.

Acknowledgements

Name Contribution
Michael Fraser-AllenCollaboration with piecing together the lineage of the Every Baronetage from my 5th GG father.
Campbell BraddockShowing the bones for the usage of tables.
Joan WebsterHer Ancestry.wiki gedcom import helped with the early stages of connecting the family
Burry, RCollaboration with the wider Shelley family.
Sørensen, MCollaboration over the Hansen/Fabrin aspects of my Danish roots.
Atkinson, N.Information for the family of Bruce Thomson
Goodwin, J ANotes on progeny of Ruth Fabrin

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Hi Richard,

Glad to see you back working on the "tree". Let me know if I can help in any way.

Robin

posted by Robin Lee
Hi Richard - can you take a look at those TL requests please? Many thanks, Jo.
posted by Jo Fitz-Henry
Hi Richard - I hope you are well. I have made some TL requests for some living profiles to edit obsolete categories so that these categories can be deleted. Can you take a look at them? Many thanks. Jo (England Project Categories team).
posted by Jo Fitz-Henry
Hi Again Richard--

I sent you a check-in message two weeks ago about the Great War Project July check in (subproject of Military and War Project). The message asked you about your continued involvement, I have not yet heard back from you. Do you still want to be in the Great War project? If I do not hear from you by the same time next week, I will assume that you've moved on to other things. You are most welcome to re-join the project at any time.by answering the g2g posting Here.

Best wishes,

Mary~ Project Coordinator, Military and War Project

posted by Mary Richardson
Richard,

It is time for a July 2022 check in for the Great War Project. I am sending this message on the behalf of the leader of the Military and War Project. Have you been active in the Great War project in the last six months?

Please note that it is a requirement for membership in the Military and War Project that you respond to these check-ins. To make bookkeeping easier, just click Reply to this message on your own page, add your reply, then SAVE or post reply. I look forward to hearing from you..

Thanks,

Mary~ Project Coordinator, Military and War Project

posted by Mary Richardson

Hi Richard,

I would like to invite you to join the KiwiCrew in the upcoming Connect-A-Thon. Participation is easy, simply create new profiles for unconnected people, with luck they will connect with the World Tree.

Simply post an answer on this Post saying "Yes, I'd like to participate with the KiwiCrew"

Add THE_KIWI_CREW to your followed tags. for future updates.

Once registered, you will receive your Connect-a-Thon badge and a special invitation to our Kiwi Crew Discord Server.

For more information, view the KiwiCrew Team page

Happy WikiTreeing, Campbell

posted by Campbell Braddock
Hi Richard,

I've sent you several emails but I have not heard back from you. Can you please reply to my emails or if you didn't get them, can you please check your spam box and/or email me here:

my email

thanks & best regards,

SJ

posted by SJ Baty
Hi,

I sent an email. Can you read it and get back to me?

thanks and best regards,

SJ

posted by SJ Baty
Hi Richard,

The United Kingdom Project has not been active since 2018 and we are now completely closing it down. We are removing all UK project badges. If you still have an interest in the UK and have not already joined another project, then you will need to join the England, Ireland, Scotland or Wales Project by answering one or more of their G2G posts. If your interest is in the British Isles and British Crown Dependencies and Overseas Territories, then please contact me directly.

Regards Joan

As a fellow "disabled" (in my case, from congenital major depression, ) I am writing to agree with the limitations you mention above. I am struggling to reply to emails over a week old. Others see depression as an illness, and sit around waiting for a cure, but mine is in my genes Attempts to cure the symptoms haven't eworked. By treating it as a diability, I have managed to live a fairly normal life. Usually, the first casualty is the person's marriage, but mine survived, although only just. Crohn's disease came up in discussion here a couple of days ago. The only other person with it that I knew well was in Kyabram, years ago.
posted by Doug Laidlaw
Hello

It’s time for a Project check-in!

Scotland Project Leaders check in with you at least once a year to see how you are doing. With the changes happening around the world, we understand that life is hectic right now.

What are you planning to work on for the Scotland Project this year? Are you happy with the team(s) you part of, or would you like to make some changes?

This time round, we’re also looking for feedback on the use of Google Group and Discord. Do you use one or both of these? If you don’t use either of them, what is the best way to ensure you receive Project communications? If you would like to join us on Google Group or Discord, let us know in your response.

posted by Amy (Crawford) Gilpin
Hi Amy

For now, I'd like to leave the project

posted by Richard Shelley
I'm sorry to hear that, Richard. Thank you for all you've done to help with the Project to date. We'd be happy to have you re-join in the future, should you be interested.
posted by Amy (Crawford) Gilpin
Well done on the Diana merge. I presume the Spencer-20398 link must stay technically active, but not 'available' as such, so as to be auto-redirected to Spencer-40.
posted by [Living Swift]
Kia ora Richard, I'm really interested in joining the NZ project. I see that the G2G post says it is temporarily not accepting new members; do you have any news on when it will be accepting new members again?

(Just repeating what I commented on Amy's page)

posted by Caleb (Anderson) Day
Hello, Richard!

Thanks for all the work you accomplished during our Connect-A-Thon 2020. It is amazing how many more profiles were created and added to our Shared Tree. You have every right to be pleased with your efforts!

Kind regards,

Pippin Sheppard ~ WikiTree’s Appreciation Team

posted by Pip Sheppard
Hi Richard, you have proposed a merge between Emily Charlotte Stafford-Jerningham-1 and Jerningham-23 with a comment that the LNAB should be Jerningham, but The Complete Peerage, Vol. 12(1), p. 196 states that the name was officially changed by Royal Licence to Stafford-Jerningham 5 Oct 1826, which was before she was born. Just wondering if you have other information to suggest her name should be Jerningham?
posted by John Atkinson
Hi Richard, My connection to you is via the second marriage of Hans Fabrin to my grt grandmother, Inger Marie Kjestrup (widow of Rasmus Peter Hansen). Regards, Marion J Hansen.
posted by Marion Hansen
Thanks for your continued interest in the US Presidents Project. You will receive additional information on your “duties” in the coming weeks. In the meantime, if you would like to add this template to your profile. It creates the connection to a specific President. https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Template:US_President_Relative A list of the Presidents can be found at https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Presidential_Project_Page
posted by Robin Lee
Hi Richard!

In July 2019, you made 1000+ (actually, over 2500!) contributions to our Shared Tree! I commend for your time and effort. Keep up the great work!

Pip Sheppard

WikiTree Appreciation Team

posted by Pip Sheppard
As part of a re-vitalization of the WikiTree US Presidents Project we are asking members if they are planning to continue their contributions to the project. We are establishing a page where everyone can identify the President or Vice President that they wish to manage. Just respond to this message to let me know 1) Are you planning to continue with the Project and 2) do you have a specific President or Vice President that you are interested in.
posted by Robin Lee
Hi Richard,

I just wanted to say HELLO to a new found cousin. According to WikiTree relationship finder, we are Richard and Randy are 19th cousins Richard Shelley and Randy Willis are both descendants of Robert Goushill. It just amazes me to find relatives all over the world.

posted by Randy Willis