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Raymond Guy Short (1900 - 1973)

Raymond Guy Short
Born in Chetopa Township, Wilson, Kansas, United Statesmap
Ancestors ancestors
Husband of — married 6 Jul 1960 in Pratt, Pratt, Kansas, USAmap
[children unknown]
Died at age 73 in Chanute, Neosho, Kansas, United Statesmap
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Contents

Biography

This biography was auto-generated by a GEDCOM import.[1] It's a rough draft and needs to be edited.

Name

Name: Raymond Guy /Short/[2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10][11][12][13][14][15][16][17][18][19]
Name: Guy /Short/[20]
Name: Raymond /Short/[21]

Found multiple versions of NAME. Using Raymond Guy /Short/.

Birth

Birth:
Date: 24 APR 1900
Place: Chetopa, Wilson, Kansas, USA[22][23][24][25][26][27][28][29][30][31][32][33][34][35][36][37]
Birth:
Date: ABT 1901
Place: Kansas, USA[38]
Birth:
Date: 29 APR 1900[39]

Found multiple copies of BIRT DATE. Using 24 APR 1900

Death

Death:
Date: JUN 1973
Place: Buried at Harrison Chapel Cemetery near Altoona, Wilson, Kansas on noth side with Iron gate./Chanute, Neosho, Kansas, USA[40][41][42]
Death:
Date: JUN 1973
Place: Chanute, Neosho, Kansas, United States of America[43]

Found multiple copies of DEAT DATE. Using JUN 1973Array

Residence

Residence:
Date: 1910
Place: Cedar, Wilson, Kansas, USA[44]
Residence:
Date: 1915
Place: Chanute, Neosho, Kansas[45]
Residence:
Date: 01 MAR 1905
Place: Chetopa, Wilson, Kansas[46]
Residence:
Date: 1930
Place: Tiger, Creek, Oklahoma[47]
Residence:
Date: 1920
Place: Chanute Ward 3, Neosho, Kansas[48]
Residence:
Date: 1900
Place: Chctopa, Wilson, Kansas[49]
Residence:
Date: 01 MAR 1905
Place: Chetopa, Neosho, Kansas, USA[50][51]
Residence:
Date: 1920
Place: Neosho, Kansas, USA[52]
Residence:
Date: 1930
Place: Tiger, Creek, Oklahoma, USA[53]
Residence:
Date: 1900
Place: Wilson, Kansas, USA[54]
Residence:
Date: 1900
Place: Wilson, Kansas, USA[55]
Residence:
Date: 1930
Place: Tiger, Creek, Oklahoma[56]
Residence:
Date: 01 APR 1940
Place: Erie, Neosho, Kansas, United States[57]

Event

Event:
Type: SSN issued
Place: Illinois, USA[58]

Note

Note: #N30

Sources

  1. Short-2444 was created by Shawn Short through the import of ShawnshortAncestors1_2013-12-27.ged on Feb 19, 2015. This comment and citation can be deleted after the biography has been edited and primary sources are included.
  2. Source: #S303 Page: Database online. Tiger, Creek, Oklahoma, ED 56, roll 1901, page , image 225.0. Data: Text: Record for Guy Short
  3. Source: #S197 Data: Text: Birth date: abt 1901 CONT Birth place: Kansas CONT Residence date: 1915 CONT Residence place: Chanute, Neosho, Kansas
  4. Source: #S203 Page: Ancestry Family Trees
  5. Source: #S358 Data: Text: Name: R Guy Short Birth: abt 1901 in Kansas Death:
  6. Source: #S357 Page: Year: 1900; Census Place: Chctopa, Wilson, Kansas; Roll: T623 503; Page: 1A; Enumeration District: 163. Data: Text: Name: Guy Short Birth Date: abt 1900 Birth Place: Kansas Residence Date: 1900 Residence Place: Chctopa, Wilson, Kansas
  7. Source: #S355 Page: Year: 1920; Census Place: Chanute Ward 3, Neosho, Kansas; Roll: T625_542; Page: 11B; Enumeration District: 209; Image: 683. Data: Text: Name: Guy Short Birth Date: abt 1901 Birth Place: Kansas Residence Date: 1920 Residence Place: Chanute Ward 3, Neosho, Kansas
  8. Source: #S202 Page: Year: 1900; Census Place: Chctopa, Wilson, Kansas; Roll: T623 503; Page: 1A; Enumeration District: 163. Data: Text: Birth date: abt 1900 CONT Birth place: Kansas CONT Residence date: 1900 CONT Residence place: Chctopa, Wilson, Kansas
  9. Source: #S201 Page: Year: 1910; Census Place: Cedar, Wilson, Kansas; Roll: T624_459; Page: 4A; Enumeration District: 209; Image: 1025. Data: Text: Birth date: abt 1900 CONT Birth place: Kansas CONT Residence date: 1910 CONT Residence place: Cedar, Wilson, Kansas
  10. Source: #S197 Data: Text: Birth date: abt 1900 CONT Birth place: Kansas CONT Residence date: 1 Mar 1905 CONT Residence place: Chetopa, Wilson, Kansas
  11. Source: #S350 Page: Number: 323-09-5630; Issue State: Illinois; Issue Date: Before 1951. Data: Text: Name: Raymond Short Birth Date: 29 Apr 1900 Birth Place: Death Date: Jun 1973 Death Place: Chanute, Neosho, Kansas, United States of America
  12. Source: #S358 Data: Text: Name: Guy Short Birth Date: abt 1900 Birth Place: Kansas Residence Date: 1 Mar 1905 Residence Place: Chetopa, Wilson, Kansas
  13. Source: #S195 Page: Year: 1930; Census Place: Tiger, Creek, Oklahoma; Roll: 1901; Page: 5B; Enumeration District: 56; Image: 225.0. Data: Text: Birth date: abt 1901 CONT Birth place: Kansas CONT Residence date: 1930 CONT Residence place: Tiger, Creek, Oklahoma
  14. Source: #S357 Page: Year: 1900; Census Place: Chctopa, Wilson, Kansas; Roll: T623 503; Page: 1A; Enumeration District: 163. Data: Text: Name: Tomas Short Birth Date: abt 1871 Birth Place: Kansas Residence Date: 1900 Residence Place: Chctopa, Wilson, Kansas
  15. Source: #S344 Page: Year: 1930; Census Place: Tiger, Creek, Oklahoma; Roll: 1901; Page: 5B; Enumeration District: 56; Image: 225.0. Data: Text: Name: Guy Short Birth Date: abt 1901 Birth Place: Kansas Residence Date: 1930 Residence Place: Tiger, Creek, Oklahoma
  16. Source: #S200 Page: Number: 323-09-5630; Issue State: Illinois; Issue Date: Before 1951. Data: Text: Birth date: 29 Apr 1900 CONT Birth place: CONT Death date: Jun 1973 CONT Death place: Chanute, Neosho, Kansas, United States of America
  17. Source: #S199 Page: Year: 1920; Census Place: Chanute Ward 3, Neosho, Kansas; Roll: T625_542; Page: 11B; Enumeration District: 209; Image: 683. Data: Text: Birth date: abt 1901 CONT Birth place: Kansas CONT Residence date: 1920 CONT Residence place: Chanute Ward 3, Neosho, Kansas
  18. Source: #S587 Data: Text: Birth date: 24 Apr 1900 CONT Birth place: CONT Death date: Jun 1973 CONT Death place:
  19. Source: #S575 Page: Year: 1940; Census Place: Erie, Neosho, Kansas; Roll: T627_1249; Page: 8B; Enumeration District: 67-15. Data: Text: Birth date: abt 1901 CONT Birth place: Kansas CONT Residence date: 1 Apr 1940 CONT Residence place: Erie, Neosho, Kansas, United States
  20. Source: #S309 Page: Database online. Chanute Ward 3, Neosho, Kansas, ED , roll , page , image 683. Data: Text: Record for Guy Short
  21. Source: #S306 Page: Database online. Data: Text: Record for Raymond Short
  22. Source: #S197 Data: Text: Birth date: abt 1901 CONT Birth place: Kansas CONT Residence date: 1915 CONT Residence place: Chanute, Neosho, Kansas
  23. Source: #S357 Page: Year: 1900; Census Place: Chctopa, Wilson, Kansas; Roll: T623 503; Page: 1A; Enumeration District: 163. Data: Text: Name: Guy Short Birth Date: abt 1900 Birth Place: Kansas Residence Date: 1900 Residence Place: Chctopa, Wilson, Kansas
  24. Source: #S355 Page: Year: 1920; Census Place: Chanute Ward 3, Neosho, Kansas; Roll: T625_542; Page: 11B; Enumeration District: 209; Image: 683. Data: Text: Name: Guy Short Birth Date: abt 1901 Birth Place: Kansas Residence Date: 1920 Residence Place: Chanute Ward 3, Neosho, Kansas
  25. Source: #S202 Page: Year: 1900; Census Place: Chctopa, Wilson, Kansas; Roll: T623 503; Page: 1A; Enumeration District: 163. Data: Text: Birth date: abt 1900 CONT Birth place: Kansas CONT Residence date: 1900 CONT Residence place: Chctopa, Wilson, Kansas
  26. Source: #S201 Page: Year: 1910; Census Place: Cedar, Wilson, Kansas; Roll: T624_459; Page: 4A; Enumeration District: 209; Image: 1025. Data: Text: Birth date: abt 1900 CONT Birth place: Kansas CONT Residence date: 1910 CONT Residence place: Cedar, Wilson, Kansas
  27. Source: #S197 Data: Text: Birth date: abt 1900 CONT Birth place: Kansas CONT Residence date: 1 Mar 1905 CONT Residence place: Chetopa, Wilson, Kansas
  28. Source: #S350 Page: Number: 323-09-5630; Issue State: Illinois; Issue Date: Before 1951. Data: Text: Name: Raymond Short Birth Date: 29 Apr 1900 Birth Place: Death Date: Jun 1973 Death Place: Chanute, Neosho, Kansas, United States of America
  29. Source: #S358 Data: Text: Name: Guy Short Birth Date: abt 1900 Birth Place: Kansas Residence Date: 1 Mar 1905 Residence Place: Chetopa, Wilson, Kansas
  30. Source: #S195 Page: Year: 1930; Census Place: Tiger, Creek, Oklahoma; Roll: 1901; Page: 5B; Enumeration District: 56; Image: 225.0. Data: Text: Birth date: abt 1901 CONT Birth place: Kansas CONT Residence date: 1930 CONT Residence place: Tiger, Creek, Oklahoma
  31. Source: #S357 Page: Year: 1900; Census Place: Chctopa, Wilson, Kansas; Roll: T623 503; Page: 1A; Enumeration District: 163. Data: Text: Name: Tomas Short Birth Date: abt 1871 Birth Place: Kansas Residence Date: 1900 Residence Place: Chctopa, Wilson, Kansas
  32. Source: #S344 Page: Year: 1930; Census Place: Tiger, Creek, Oklahoma; Roll: 1901; Page: 5B; Enumeration District: 56; Image: 225.0. Data: Text: Name: Guy Short Birth Date: abt 1901 Birth Place: Kansas Residence Date: 1930 Residence Place: Tiger, Creek, Oklahoma
  33. Source: #S200 Page: Number: 323-09-5630; Issue State: Illinois; Issue Date: Before 1951. Data: Text: Birth date: 29 Apr 1900 CONT Birth place: CONT Death date: Jun 1973 CONT Death place: Chanute, Neosho, Kansas, United States of America
  34. Source: #S309 Page: Database online. Chanute Ward 3, Neosho, Kansas, ED , roll , page , image 683. Data: Text: Record for Guy Short
  35. Source: #S199 Page: Year: 1920; Census Place: Chanute Ward 3, Neosho, Kansas; Roll: T625_542; Page: 11B; Enumeration District: 209; Image: 683. Data: Text: Birth date: abt 1901 CONT Birth place: Kansas CONT Residence date: 1920 CONT Residence place: Chanute Ward 3, Neosho, Kansas
  36. Source: #S587 Data: Text: Birth date: 24 Apr 1900 CONT Birth place: CONT Death date: Jun 1973 CONT Death place:
  37. Source: #S575 Page: Year: 1940; Census Place: Erie, Neosho, Kansas; Roll: T627_1249; Page: 8B; Enumeration District: 67-15. Data: Text: Birth date: abt 1901 CONT Birth place: Kansas CONT Residence date: 1 Apr 1940 CONT Residence place: Erie, Neosho, Kansas, United States
  38. Source: #S303 Page: Database online. Tiger, Creek, Oklahoma, ED 56, roll 1901, page , image 225.0. Data: Text: Record for Guy Short
  39. Source: #S306 Page: Database online. Data: Text: Record for Raymond Short
  40. Source: #S350 Page: Number: 323-09-5630; Issue State: Illinois; Issue Date: Before 1951. Data: Text: Name: Raymond Short Birth Date: 29 Apr 1900 Birth Place: Death Date: Jun 1973 Death Place: Chanute, Neosho, Kansas, United States of America
  41. Source: #S200 Page: Number: 323-09-5630; Issue State: Illinois; Issue Date: Before 1951. Data: Text: Birth date: 29 Apr 1900 CONT Birth place: CONT Death date: Jun 1973 CONT Death place: Chanute, Neosho, Kansas, United States of America
  42. Source: #S587 Data: Text: Birth date: 24 Apr 1900 CONT Birth place: CONT Death date: Jun 1973 CONT Death place:
  43. Source: #S306 Page: Database online. Data: Text: Record for Raymond Short
  44. Source: #S201 Page: Year: 1910; Census Place: Cedar, Wilson, Kansas; Roll: T624_459; Page: 4A; Enumeration District: 209; Image: 1025. Data: Text: Birth date: abt 1900 CONT Birth place: Kansas CONT Residence date: 1910 CONT Residence place: Cedar, Wilson, Kansas
  45. Source: #S197 Data: Text: Birth date: abt 1901 CONT Birth place: Kansas CONT Residence date: 1915 CONT Residence place: Chanute, Neosho, Kansas
  46. Source: #S197 Data: Text: Birth date: abt 1900 CONT Birth place: Kansas CONT Residence date: 1 Mar 1905 CONT Residence place: Chetopa, Wilson, Kansas
  47. Source: #S195 Page: Year: 1930; Census Place: Tiger, Creek, Oklahoma; Roll: 1901; Page: 5B; Enumeration District: 56; Image: 225.0. Data: Text: Birth date: abt 1901 CONT Birth place: Kansas CONT Residence date: 1930 CONT Residence place: Tiger, Creek, Oklahoma
  48. Source: #S199 Page: Year: 1920; Census Place: Chanute Ward 3, Neosho, Kansas; Roll: T625_542; Page: 11B; Enumeration District: 209; Image: 683. Data: Text: Birth date: abt 1901 CONT Birth place: Kansas CONT Residence date: 1920 CONT Residence place: Chanute Ward 3, Neosho, Kansas
  49. Source: #S202 Page: Year: 1900; Census Place: Chctopa, Wilson, Kansas; Roll: T623 503; Page: 1A; Enumeration District: 163. Data: Text: Birth date: abt 1900 CONT Birth place: Kansas CONT Residence date: 1900 CONT Residence place: Chctopa, Wilson, Kansas
  50. Source: #S358 Data: Text: Name: Guy Short Birth Date: abt 1900 Birth Place: Kansas Residence Date: 1 Mar 1905 Residence Place: Chetopa, Wilson, Kansas
  51. Source: #S309 Page: Database online. Chanute Ward 3, Neosho, Kansas, ED , roll , page , image 683. Data: Text: Record for Guy Short
  52. Source: #S355 Page: Year: 1920; Census Place: Chanute Ward 3, Neosho, Kansas; Roll: T625_542; Page: 11B; Enumeration District: 209; Image: 683. Data: Text: Name: Guy Short Birth Date: abt 1901 Birth Place: Kansas Residence Date: 1920 Residence Place: Chanute Ward 3, Neosho, Kansas
  53. Source: #S344 Page: Year: 1930; Census Place: Tiger, Creek, Oklahoma; Roll: 1901; Page: 5B; Enumeration District: 56; Image: 225.0. Data: Text: Name: Guy Short Birth Date: abt 1901 Birth Place: Kansas Residence Date: 1930 Residence Place: Tiger, Creek, Oklahoma
  54. Source: #S357 Page: Year: 1900; Census Place: Chctopa, Wilson, Kansas; Roll: T623 503; Page: 1A; Enumeration District: 163. Data: Text: Name: Guy Short Birth Date: abt 1900 Birth Place: Kansas Residence Date: 1900 Residence Place: Chctopa, Wilson, Kansas
  55. Source: #S357 Page: Year: 1900; Census Place: Chctopa, Wilson, Kansas; Roll: T623 503; Page: 1A; Enumeration District: 163. Data: Text: Name: Tomas Short Birth Date: abt 1871 Birth Place: Kansas Residence Date: 1900 Residence Place: Chctopa, Wilson, Kansas
  56. Source: #S303 Page: Database online. Tiger, Creek, Oklahoma, ED 56, roll 1901, page , image 225.0. Data: Text: Record for Guy Short
  57. Source: #S575 Page: Year: 1940; Census Place: Erie, Neosho, Kansas; Roll: T627_1249; Page: 8B; Enumeration District: 67-15. Data: Text: Birth date: abt 1901 CONT Birth place: Kansas CONT Residence date: 1 Apr 1940 CONT Residence place: Erie, Neosho, Kansas, United States
  58. Source: #S306 Page: Database online. Data: Text: Record for Raymond Short
  • Source: S195 Author: Ancestry.com Title: 1930 United States Federal Census Publication: Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2002.Original data - United States of America, Bureau of the Census. Fifteenth Census of the United States, 1930. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1930. T626; Repository: #R1
  • Repository: R1 Name: Ancestry.com Address: http://www.Ancestry.com E-Mail Address: Phone Number:
  • Source: S197 Author: Ancestry.com. Title: Kansas State Census Collection, 1855-1915 Publication: Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2007.Original data - 1855 Kansas Territory Census. Microfilm reel K-1. Kansas State Historical Society.1856, 1857, and 1858 Kansas Territory Censuses. Microfilm reel K-1. Kansas State Hist; Repository: #R1
  • Source: S199 Author: Ancestry.com Title: 1920 United States Federal Census Publication: Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2005. For details on the contents of the film numbers, visit the following NARA web page: NARA. Note: Enumeration Districts 819-839 on roll 323 (Chicago City.Original data - United States; Repository: #R1
  • Source: S200 Author: Ancestry.com Title: Social Security Death Index Publication: Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2007.Original data - Social Security Administration. Social Security Death Index, Master File. Social Security Administration.Original data: Social Security Administration. Social Security; Repository: #R1
  • Source: S201 Author: Ancestry.com Title: 1910 United States Federal Census Publication: Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2006. For details on the contents of the film numbers, visit the following NARA web page: NARA.Original data - United States of America, Bureau of the Census. Thirteenth Census of the Unit; Repository: #R1
  • Source: S202 Author: Ancestry.com Title: 1900 United States Federal Census Publication: Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2004.Original data - United States of America, Bureau of the Census. Twelfth Census of the United States, 1900. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1900. T623,; Repository: #R1
  • Source: S203 Title: Ancestry Family Trees Publication: Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network. Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members.; Repository: #R1 NOTEThis information comes from 1 or more individual Ancestry Family Tree files. This source citation points you to a current version of those files. Note: The owners of these tree files may have removed or changed information since this source citation was created.
  • Source: S303 Author: Ancestry.com Title: 1930 United States Federal Census Publication: Name: Name: The Generations Network, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2002;; Repository: #R4 NOTEUnited States of America, Bureau of the Census, Fifteenth Census of the United States, 1930, Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1930
  • Repository: R4 Name: www.ancestry.com Address: E-Mail Address: Phone Number:
  • Source: S306 Author: Ancestry.com Title: Social Security Death Index Publication: Name: Name: The Generations Network, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2007;; Repository: #R4 NOTESocial Security Administration, Social Security Death Index, Master File, : Social Security Administration
  • Source: S309 Author: Ancestry.com Title: 1920 United States Federal Census Publication: Name: Name: The Generations Network, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2005;; Repository: #R4 NOTEUnited States of America, Bureau of the Census, Fourteenth Census of the United States, 1920, Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1920
  • Source: S344 Author: Ancestry.com Title: 1930 United States Federal Census Publication: Name: Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2002.Original data - United States of America, Bureau of the Census. Fifteenth Census of the United States, 1930. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1930;
  • Source: S350 Author: Ancestry.com Title: Social Security Death Index Publication: Name: Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2007.Original data - Social Security Administration. Social Security Death Index, Master File. Social Security Administration.Original data: Social Security Administration. Social Se;
  • Source: S355 Author: Ancestry.com Title: 1920 United States Federal Census Publication: Name: Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2005. For details on the contents of the film numbers, visit the following NARA web page: NARA. Note: Enumeration Districts 819-839 on roll 323 (Chicago City.Original data - United;
  • Source: S357 Author: Ancestry.com Title: 1900 United States Federal Census Publication: Name: Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2004.Original data - United States of America, Bureau of the Census. Twelfth Census of the United States, 1900. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1900.;
  • Source: S358 Author: Ancestry.com. Title: Kansas State Census Collection, 1855-1915 Publication: Name: Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2006.Original data - 1855 Kansas Territory Census. Microfilm reel K-1. Kansas State Historical Society.1856, 1857, and 1858 Kansas Territory Censuses. Microfilm reel K-1. Kansas Stat;
  • Source: S575 Author: Ancestry.com Title: 1940 United States Federal Census Publication: Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2012.Original data - United States of America, Bureau of the Census. Sixteenth Census of the United States, 1940. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1940. T627; Repository: #R1
  • Source: S587 Author: Ancestry.com Title: Web: Kansas, Find A Grave Index, 1854-2011 Publication: Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2012.Original data - Find A Grave. Find A Grave. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi: accessed 23 February 2012.Original data: Find A Grave. Find A Grave. http://www.findagrave.com/cg; https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/30894324 Repository: #R1

Notes

Note N30HenryShort1 http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=image&guid=bfa314f6-f5e3-4d9e-b6ce-13a8a295f77d&tid=920826&pid=-1642626636 CoraShort1 http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=image&guid=2f95193b-c04d-45ed-8bac-6ecbaf618c78&tid=920826&pid=-1642626636 GuyShort2 http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=image&guid=98aa9e51-9417-4447-9a49-12637a2e10ab&tid=920826&pid=-1642626636 GuyShort1 http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=image&guid=bf0d410d-c736-4ff3-a94c-f9da797bb14e&tid=920826&pid=-1642626636




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