Betty (Skelton) Norman
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Betty (Skelton) Norman

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I'm still learning WikiTree and how to be a better genealogist. When I look at my own family tree, I can see that I've grown, and need to do updates to what I've already accomplished. And I expect that to keep happening.... learning new and different things, and discovery of what I never knew before... that's what it's all about!
Betty Norman formerly Skelton aka McGougan
Born 1930s.
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Mother of [private son (1950s - unknown)] and [private son (1960s - unknown)]
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Betty (Skelton) Norman is a member of the US Southern Colonies Project.
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Betty (Skelton) Norman is a Project Member of the Southern Pioneers Project.
Betty was featured in a Meet Our Members Post on the G2G Forum!
Betty (Skelton) Norman is a Project Member of the Military and War subproject 1776

Betty was born in 1939 in Anderson, South Carolina. She was the first child of Harold Skelton and Reed Banister. In 1957, she graduated from Hanna High School and married John McGougan. They had two sons: Marshall and Joe.

While the boys were still babies, Betty found a job. Relocations and other events caused the jobs to change, and Betty found herself working as a bank teller, a bookkeeper for a cotton merchant, manager of a cotton warehouse (10 buildings), assistant to a marketing manager, and finally... a computer programmer. The first computer she programmed was an IBM 1130, until recently housed in a museum and touted as IBM's first mini-computer. The computer business was her niche! She learned and grew with the times, went back to school to earn a B.S. in Mathematics and Business, and eventually ended up at Digital Equipment Corporation, working as a second level (district) manager.

Before DEC went out of business, Betty found herself in Dallas, Texas, married to her second husband, Jay Norman. The two of them pooled their resources and started a small business. It grew and became successful and they eventually sold the business. Now they are active retirees, and enjoying life.

Besides genealogy, Betty spends her days hawk- and eagle-watching. She is a raptor enthusiast, and has participated as a moderator for several Bald Eagle, Red-tailed Hawk, and Cooper's Hawk nest cams.

Between the two of them, Betty and Jay have an extended family of two sons, three daughters, and nine grandchildren. Betty now has the distinction of being the oldest living member of both the paternal and the maternal sides of her family. It's high time someone put together her family history for the generations to come! And that's her story!


Little Betty moved with her family from Anderson to Greenville to Gaffney back to Greenville and back to Anderson, as her father met the changing needs of his job and helped to mobilize the home front in the face of World War II. Betty sat on her father's shoulders and watched as Franklin Delano Roosevelt's casket, displayed in an open rail car, rolled slowly by. Then, when the war was over, she was part of the celebration, screaming and throwing confetti and hanging out the car window. She knew that now Mother can bake pies again, but Uncle Ray won't be coming home.

Betty grew up in the Happy Days. She rode a bicycle everywhere, walked on homemade stilts for hours, roller-skated on the streets and sidewalks, and developed callouses on her hands from climbing the big rope swing in the back yard. A coca cola cost a dime, and a box of jello 5 cents and it lasted all day. There was no charge to swim in the recreation center pool, and that's where she spent many of her days. "Betty, be home in time for supper!" "Yes, Mother!" Happy Days.


  • First-hand information. Entered by Betty Skelton on 01 Jan 2020.


* Paternal relationship is confirmed by an AncestryDNA test match between Betty Skelton and her second cousin J.S. Their most-recent common ancestors are their (respective) great grandparents and great-great grandparents, Samuel Augustus Skelton and Susannah Elizabeth Roof. Predicted relationship from AncestryDNA: 2nd Cousins 1x removed, based on sharing 147 cM across 7 segments; Confidence: Extremely High.

* Maternal relationship is confirmed by an AncestryDNA test match between Betty Skelton and her first cousin, Judith Mancini. Their most-recent common ancestors are their grandparents, Ira Reed Banister and Ella Monteria Todd. Predicted relationship from AncestryDNA: 1st cousins, based on sharing 1,044 cM across 41 segments; Confidence: Extremely High.

Personal ethnicity per DNA test: 53% - England & Northwestern Europe 37% - Scotland 8% - Wales 1% - European Jewish 1% - Native (Indigenous) North American

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Hi Betty, I found a Revolution soldier you might want to take a look at. I'm not sure if I did the stickers right or how they're supposed to look, so I'll leave them to you and your project team.
posted by Jennifer Fulk
jennifer, first I added a source for the service description. (One of the good things about Familysearch is the good sources found there; I added a citation that goes direct to the source.) For the stickers, nowadays we're only allowing one 1776 sticker on a profile, which in this case is all that's needed. All of his military service was performed in the Berkshire County Militia, so the sticker would look like { {1776 Sticker | rank= Private | unit= Berkshire County Militia, Massachusetts Militia, American Revolution} }. In the biography itself, you would want to tell about the companies he served in and their officers. (Remove the spaces between the { and }, of course.)
posted by Betty (Skelton) Norman
edited by Betty (Skelton) Norman
Betty, Thank you for helping me nearly every day since April 13, on everything from writing my family member's biographies to understanding "in-line code sources". You have been very patient and extremely kind and sooo helpful (considering you have had to explain the same thing 2 and 3 times.) I really am sorry that I'm not very technological. It hasn't seemed to bother you one bit. You just keep on helping me and I am so very THANKFUL.

Katherine Snyder Randall

Katie, you are so very welcome! You don't give yourself enough credit; you are a patient and appreciative student. I have had fun working together with you to make improvements to your ancestor's profile, and I look forward to seeing what you do next. Call on me anytime you need help or want a second opinion.

Your buddy, Betty

posted by Betty (Skelton) Norman
Greetings from the 1776 Project . . .

We're doing our semi-annual check-in to ask whether you have made contributions to the project in the last six months? Please note that it is a requirement for membership in the 1776 Project that you respond to this check-in. Please post your response as a reply to this message on your page, for convenience of record keeping. We look forward to hearing from you. Betty -- 1776 Project Leader

--Yes, Betty, I am still active in the project. Responding here as I don't leave check-in messages on my profile page due to the increased clutter. Thanks.

posted by T Stanton
Morning, Betty,

Will you add Military and War badge to this person. Thanks heaps..

and this man wants Military and War as well as the 1776 badge you posted?

thanks for helping me..

posted by Mary Richardson
edited by Mary Richardson
Happy to do so, Mary. Hello from the UK. We're still in London. Back soon.
posted by Betty (Skelton) Norman
Betty, is this the latest way the category / 1776 stickers are supposed to be? Are you re-doing every patriot?

posted by Beryl Meehan
No change was made except to include a category, showing his service in the 17th Regiment, Connecticut Militia. Maybe I don't understand your question. Please send me a private message if you'd like to discuss.
posted by Betty (Skelton) Norman
What do you do with this profile needing 1776 updating ...

posted by Beryl Meehan
Beryl, I think we should make it clear this man was a Loyalist. I would give him this 1776 sticker: { {1776 Sticker|image=Flags-3.jpg |unit=Loyalists, American Revolution}}

The sources support that he was a British soldier, a grenadier. One source even says that he took his family to Nova Scotia after the war, but eventually settled in Canada.

posted by Betty (Skelton) Norman
edited by Betty (Skelton) Norman
Betty, would the same Loyalist sticker apply to John Jennings as he owned and sold land in South Carolina, but is listed as an officer in his Majesty's service in records in Bermuda where this John Jennings was living in 1780. see his profile for listing of his various military offices.
posted by Carol Wilder
I believe the Loyalist sticker would apply to John Jennings. Since he had dealings in both Bermuda and South Carolina during the time period of the Revolution, we should make it clear (and he probably would have wanted it clear) that he was a Loyalist during this time. Another nice profile, by the way!
posted by Betty (Skelton) Norman
Betty, I've submitted a request to the Category Project to have the 7th Massachusetts added to the list of Regiments who fought at Bunker Hill. I have added the 7th to the category, corrected from the 9th as notes and source state he was the 7th.

See the 7th is missing from

William Prescott was coded as in the 9th but now that is corrected he now longer shows in the Bunker Hill participants.

posted by Beryl Meehan
Hi Betty I see that you updated the 1776 sticker for John Buckalew (abt.1760-aft.1834) to the third regiment South Carolina. It was previously Mecklenburg, North Carolina. He stated in his pension application "I was living when I first volunteered in Edgefield District South Carolina. I became a Soldier the last time in Mecklenburg County North Carolina. So he did serve in both.
posted by Eileen Bradley
edited by Eileen Bradley
Eileen, it's a matter of preference. The 1776 sticker format only allows one service description; others go into Categories, which is where I placed the North Carolina service. I chose the South Carolina service primarily because it was in the continental army at the same rank, but it could just as easily go the other way. Change it if you prefer; my thought was to state the service that gives the most honor to the patriot.
posted by Betty (Skelton) Norman
Adopt him if you'd like to. Rumor has it that brig gens were a dime a dozen during the Revolution. Ranked slightly above colonels. See
posted by Betty (Skelton) Norman
Betty, is there any point to having some patriots coded as "New Jersey Line." Can we re-code them (25 of them today) into New Jersey, and their county served?

posted by Beryl Meehan
Coding "New Jersey Line, American Revolution" is helpful, as it distinguishes from "New Jersey Militia, American Revolution" ; in my opinion, we should only use "New Jersey, American Revolution" if there is not enough information to show line or militia.

If this does not answer your question, please send me a pm, so we can discuss it further.

posted by Betty (Skelton) Norman
After doing "just a little" research I have made a big change to

I have left a message for the PMs. I have updated the correct patriot with the data -

In doing this clean-up I also got to update Col Ashley as he is the commanding officer mentioned in the service source for the correct Francis Hale.

- changes on xxx profile

posted by Beryl Meehan
Excellent work, Beryl! My own notes on the profile comment "A source is needed for the military service."
posted by Betty (Skelton) Norman
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posted by Beryl Meehan
deleted by Beryl Meehan
Unless evidence of his participation in the Revolution is found, I believe the profile is fine as you have edited it.
posted by Betty (Skelton) Norman
Hi Betty,

I know the answer to this. But sending you the msg anyhow. ALSO congratulations on your making Leader.. Mary ......

This is the semi-annual polling for the US Southern Colonies Project check-in with members to see if you have been active in the last six months in this project?

Please note that it is a requirement for membership in the US Southern Colonies Project that you respond to these check-ins. Types of activity vary, as I mentioned in the June check-in.

I look forward to hearing from you.. Many thanks,

Mary, Membership Coordinator, US Southern Colonies Project

posted by Mary Richardson
Thank you for your help on the Hampton family line of Alfred Smith 203576. Hampton was my grandmothers. . Maiden name her father was William H Hampton 1843—1896. I do not how to apply the stickers, thanks.
posted by Alfred Smith
edited by Alfred Smith
Congratulations on that new blue badge Betty! We're glad to have you!
posted by SJ Baty
Thanks for getting the Peter Wells stickers sorted out. Give me another five years and maybe I will get it right on the first try! Peter Wells is my 4th Great-grandfather.
posted by David Finster
edited by David Finster
David, you're not the only one who finds stickers tricky! And especially now, because the rules changed for 1776 stickers! Congrats to you for finding the patriots in your family tree and developing profiles to give them recognition!
posted by Betty (Skelton) Norman
Thanks for putting the DAR Patriot badge on Johann Frederick Oyer's profile! My 5th Great-grandmother Elisabeth Mader married him, and he took in her son, John B. Finster (there is no evidence that she and Finster's father were ever married, and that's all of the story I have been able to find), and was like a father to him. In fact, the story is that Johann Oyer died in Peter's arms after being wounded at the Battle of Oriskany in 1777. I appreciate any recognition this good man can get. And stickers are still a bit tricky for me...
posted by David Finster
edited by David Finster
Hello Betty!

Congratulations on your Pre-1500 badge! Please consider joining our Medieval Project and make sure to add pre-1500 as one of your followed tags!

posted by Robin Lee
Hi! The sandbox sticker is broken because the id= & name= parameters are required... try Queen Elizabeth II

- coding:

{{Sandbox Liz5|id=Windsor-1|name=Queen Elizabeth II} and add second } at end

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
edited by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Hello again Betty! Welcome to the Project.

best regards,

SJ - 1776 Project Leader

posted by SJ Baty
I did not know this! ----> SJ -1776 Project Leader

But SO glad to find out!

posted by Betty (Skelton) Norman
Hello and welcome to the American Revolutionary War (1776) Project.  At the project home page you can find useful information about the project:

Revolutionary War (1776) Project

We use Google Groups for Project communication: or

Please let us know if you have any questions! 

Mary - 1776 Project Coordinator

posted by Mary Richardson
Hi Mary,

"Revolutionary War (1776) Project" link doesn't work. Says the page does not exist.

and communication link says I don't have permission, so I clicked the "Join" button. Is that what should happen?

Thanks! b

posted by Betty (Skelton) Norman
Hi Betty! I was working on the profiles for Abraham Piersey's family & wanted to let you know that I edited the ship's category for his daughter Elizabeth and why. You'd added the category for a specific voyage of the Southampton, but the passenger list on the broader category had both her and her sister, and her sister was categorized to it. So I changed her to be in Category: Southampton, sailed 1622-1624 also.

Thanks again for all the wonderful QA work you are doing with the Jamestown folks!

Cheers, Liz

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Thanks, Liz! All improvements are appreciated!
posted by Betty (Skelton) Norman

Wishing you a successful procedure. I fear I am late to write this. You can read it after the procedure. This fellow, is interesting. I gather you searched the 1623 and 1624 musters.

Best Wishes,


posted by Mary Richardson
Hello Betty. Congratulations on your accomplishments on Wiki Tree. I see that we are connected via my father's line,, the Floyds. I have traced my father's line to the late 1700's and come up with a total blank after that. Just curious if you followed that line at all. Priscilla Floyd
posted by Priscilla Floyd
Hi Betty,

I am Linda York Janesko and am new to WikiTree! I read your profile as Person of the week and wanted to offer my congratulations1 I checked the connection box just out of curiosity and to my shock we are connected! You have several "YORKS" at the end of our connection. I'm thrilled! Linda

posted by Linda (York) Janesko
Hi Betty!

Congratulations on being the person of the week!

We are:

Betty and Marsha are 9th cousins once removed Betty (Skelton) Norman and Marsha (Cramer) Baker are both descendants of Peter Presley.

Have a great weekend!

Marsha Baker😊

posted by Marsha (Cramer) Baker
Hi Betty Norman: Hi to you. We are 19 cousin once removed, You the 19th great grand-daughter of Hugh Venables, born 1330, in Kinderton, Cum Hulme, Northwich, co. Ches-shire, England, United Kingdom. I am the 18th great grandson of Hugh Venables.

Kenneth Moore

posted by Kenneth Moore
From your friends at the Appreciation Team:

Congrats on the Super Star Badge!

posted by SJ Baty
Hi Betty! Nice work on Jones-37299. I was changing the Virginia Colony category & noticed the disabled link. The WayBack Machine of had captured it, so I updated the footnote.

I haven't had much luck with Rootsweb pages since Ancestry took it over, but it's worth checking anyway: (and copy in the URL for the dead link in the "WayBack Machine" box).

Cheers, Liz

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Hi Betty,

We have a large membership for Province of Carolina Team. As previously discussed in the leadership Team, I have split the Province of Carolina Team into the following :


Please reply to me with your answer of which team you want to work on (this may be multiples)

A) All three teams

B) This Province of Carolina Team

C) this Province of North Carolina Team

D) this Province of South Carolina Team

Of note there is A Quality Assurance subteam listed on the Province of Carolina Team page which you already know about.... (MR)

Be sure you fill in your strong points and interests next to your name on the Carolina team page I know these (MR)

(I will continue as Team Leader of all three)

Mary ~ Team Leader

posted by Mary Richardson
edited by Mary Richardson

My name is Sarah and I’m the new Project Leader for The Native Americans Project. This is your project check-in letter. I would love to hear back from you about your current Native American research interests and project related activity.

Thank you,

Sarah Mason, NA Project Leader

posted by Sarah Mason
For assistance with the Wooten Harris profile, you deserve a Generous Genealogist Badge! I really appreciate your help!
posted by Paula J
Hi Betty,

Thanks so much for the message about the bad links on Wooten Harris’ profile. I will fix that immediately! I really appreciate you letting me know.

By the way, I was born and raised in Spartanburg, SC. I am Savannah, GA now but we probably spent a lot of time in the same places! I love that area.


posted by Paula J
Profile Stickers can be placed on any profile on which they are appropriate by any contributor to the profile. In this context, "contributor" means anyone who is on the Trusted List and has been following changes or anyone who has been contributing to the profile.

They should not be placed by someone who does not actively follow the profile and who has not otherwise contributed to it, unless they communicate with the Profile Manager before or when the Sticker is placed.

Stickers can be removed by any contributor to the profile. They should not be added back without communicating with this contributor.

Stickers should not be included if any contributor does not want them there.

posted by Jean (Tennant) Skar
As a "Tree Hugger", I want to congratulate you on your Generous Genealogist award issued on July 12, 2020.

John Williams


Wikitree Appreciation Team

posted by [Living Williams]

As a member of the Scotland Project, we'd love to have you join the Twisted Thistles in the upcoming Connect-a-thon the weekend of July 17 - July 20. If you'd like to join us and help to develop our ever-expanding Scottish tree, please register on the G2G post here and be sure to mention you'd like to be on the Twisted Thistles team for Scotland.

We also have our team Chat page posted here.

Hope to see you there!
Bobbie & Sarah
Twisted Thistles Co-captains
posted by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
Hi Betty,

Welcome to the US Southern Colonies Province of Carolina Team. I am excited to have you join this team. Here is the page where I jotted down goals and tasks if you will check them out. These will change as the project advances. As we add space pages for Resources for Province of Carolina, we will attach them to this Team page for navigation.

After checking it over, and looking for what interests you most, just message me and I will be checking on you.

Please add a bit about your ancestors beside your name or your self.

Again thanks for joining us for this project and this team.If you have questions, just ask!! I will contact you by private email, trgarding what to do..

Mary Richardson, U.S. Southern Colonies Province of Carolinas Team Leader

posted by Mary Richardson
Welcome to the Southern Pioneers Project!
posted by Paula J
Hi, Betty,

Thanks for taking the Pre-1700 Quiz!

Have questions? Ask in the comments section of my profile.

Deb ~ Pre-1700 Greeter

posted by Deb (Lewis) Durham
Hello Betty!

You've been a member for a few weeks so I thought I would check in to see how it's going. Have the How-Tos been helpful or left you with questions? Most of us have questions after all that information!

I want to help! Click my name, send me a private message or ask in the comment section of my page. Sometimes links don't work in emails. If that's happened to you, check the public comments on your profile. The links will work from there.

Cindy ~ WikiTree Messenger

PS To find reliable sources for your profiles, go to the Family Tree & Tools tab; select Genealogy Research and scroll down near the bottom of that list and select Research with RootsSearch. There are over 20 websites to access from there.

Betty, Thank you for volunteering. You are now a full member of the WikiTree family and can add your family to the big tree where many people collaborate.

Click here to start with our New Member How-To Pages. They will save you time, energy and frustration as you add your family profiles.

Please let me know if you have any questions. I'm always happy to help!

Mary ~ WikiTree Greeter

P.S. If links do not work in an email from WikiTree, try them from the comment section on your profile page.

posted by Mary Richardson

This is just a note to say hi and to let you know that I'm available to answer questions about joining WikiTree. To contact me, click the link to my name, then send a private message or post a comment on my profile page.

Mary ~ WikiTree Greeter

P.S. If links do not work in an email from WikiTree, try them from the comment section of your profile page.

posted by Mary Richardson