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John Smith (1824 - 1906)

John Smith
Born in Woodnesborough, Kent, Englandmap [uncertain]
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Son of and
Brother of , , , [half], [half] and [half]
Husband of — married 8 May 1848 in Staple, Kent, Englandmap
Husband of — married 12 Oct 1891 in Gillingham, Kent, Englandmap
Father of , , , , , and
Died at about age 82 in Barming Heath, Kent, Englandmap
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Biography

Genealogically Defined

John was born in 1824 at Woodnesborough or Ash next Sandwich, Kent, England and baptised on the 21st November 1824 at St. Nicholas, Ash next Sandwich, Kent, England, the son of Thomas Smith and Mary Smith of Ash[1].

It is likely that John joined the Royal Marines at Chatham, Kent in 1846[2]

On the 8th May 1848, John married Ellen Winget at St. James, Staple, Kent, England. John Smith, bachelor, Marine? of Chatham, son of Thomas Smith (labourer) and Ellen Winget, spinster of Staple, daughter of William Winget (labourer). Witnessed by George Smith and Sarah Ann Smith[3][4].

John was a corporal in the Royal Marines in 1851[5] and 1853[6].

John was discharged from the Royal Marines about 1853.

In 1853 John he was occupied as a blacksmith.

By 1855, John & Ellen had become Methodists, and John was occupied as a labourer[7].

In 1856 John & Ellen were living at Luton, Kent, England[8].

From 1857-1861, John was occupied as a blacksmith.

In 1862, John was occupied as a hammerman[9].

John's wife Ellen died aged 66 years in 1891and was buried on the 25th February 1891 at All Saints, Luton, Kent[10]

On the 12th October 1891, John married widowed Ann Doble at St. Mary Magdalene, Gillingham, Kent, England. John Smith, 67, widower, pensioner of Middle Street, Coye or Cage Lane, Gillingham, son of Thomas Smith (labourer, deceased) and Ann Doble, widow, 69, of Coye or Cage Lane daughter of Luke Brown [sic] (labourer, deceased). Witnessed by William Rose & Mary Elizabeth Rose[11][12]N.B. Luke Brown was her step-father.

On the 13th March 1905, John was admitted to Barming Heath Asylum, Barming Heath, Kent, England[13].

He passed away aged 81-82 years on the 12th May 1906[13][14] at Barming Heath Asylum, Barming Heath, Kent, England and was buried on the 17th May 1906 at Maidstone Road & Palmerston Road Cemetery, Chatham, Kent, England. Plot Section UU Grave No. 267 (U)[15]

Children

  1. George Smith b. 1851[16] at Chatham, Kent, England and bapt. 15th June 1851 at Chatham, Kent, England[5] d. 1865 at Luton, Kent, England
  2. Mary Ann Smith b. abt. 1853[17] at Chatham, Kent, England bapt. 6th February 1853 at Chatham, Kent, England[6]
  3. John Smith b. 1855[18]at Chatham, Kent, England bapt. 10th June 1855 at Union Street Methodist Chapel, Chatham, Kent, England[7] d. 1856 at Luton, Kent, England[8]
  4. Eleanor Smith b. 1857[19] at Chatham, Kent, England[20][21]
  5. Sarah Jane Smith b. 1860[22]at Chatham, Kent, England[20][21] bapt. 14th October 1860 at Union Street Methodist Chapel, Chatham, Kent, England[23]
  6. Esther Smith b. 1862[24] at Chatham, Kent, England bapt. 11th June 1862 at Union Street Methodist Chapel, Chatham, Kent, England[9]
  7. George Smith b. abt. 1866[25] at Chatham, Kent, England[21]

Census

1841 Census of England & Wales: 6th June 1841
Shatterling, Staple next Wingham, Kent, England

First NameLast NameGenderAgeOccupationBirth Place
CharlesHopkinsMale36 LabourerKent
Mary AnnHopkinsFemale46 -Kent
GeorgeHopkins [sic]Male22 -Kent
JohnHopkins [sic]Male18 -Kent
FrancesHopkinsFemale12-Kent
CharlesHopkinsMale6-Kent
Mary AnnHopkinsFemale3 -Kent
[26]

1851 Census of England & Wales: 30th March 1851
Royal Marines Barracks, Chatham, Kent, England

First NameLast NameRelationshipMarital StatusGenderAgeOccupationBirth Place
JohnSmithHeadMar(ried)Male26Corporal MarinesWoodnesborough [sic], Kent
EllenSmithHeadMar(ried)Female26Corporal Marines WifeChatham, Kent
[27]

1861 Census of England & Wales: 7th April 1861
Middle Street, Gillingham, Kent, England

First NameLast NameRelationshipMarital StatusGenderAgeOccupationBirth Place
JohnSmithHeadMar(rie)dMale36BlacksmithWoodnesbrow [sic], Kent
E(llen)S(mith)HeadMar(rie)dFemale36-Chatham, Kent
G(eorge)S(mith)SonU(n)m(arried)Male9ScholarChatham, Kent
E(leanor)S(mith)DaughterU(n)m(arried)Female3ScholarChatham, Kent
S(arah) J(ane)S(mith)DaughterU(n)m(arried)Female6 months-Chatham, Kent
[20]

1871 Census of England & Wales: 2nd April 1871
Constitution Hill, Chatham, Kent, England

First NameLast NameRelationshipMarital StatusGenderAgeOccupationBirth Place
JohnSmithHeadMar(ried)Male46BlacksmithWindsborough [sic], Kent
EllenSmithHeadMar(ried)Female46-Chatham, Kent
EllenSmithDau(ghte)r-Female13ScholarChatham, Kent
Sarah J(ane)SmithDau(ghte)r-Female10ScholarChatham, Kent
EstherSmithDau(ghte)r-Female7ScholarChatham, Kent
GeorgeSmithSon-Male5ScholarChatham, Kent
[21]

1881 Census of England & Wales: 3rd April 1881
2 Sturla Road, Chatham, Kent, England

First NameLast NameRelationshipMarital StatusGenderAgeOccupationBirth Place
JohnSmithHeadMar(ried)Male57Corp(ora)l R(oyal) M(arines) Greenwich PensionerWoodnesborough [sic], Kent
EllenSmithHeadMar(ried)Female57-Chatham, Kent
[28]

1891 Census of England & Wales: 5th April 1891
53 Jubilee Cottage, Upper Luton Road, Chatham, Kent, England

First NameLast NameRelationshipMarital StatusGenderAgeOccupationBirth Place
JohnSmithHeadWidowerMale66PensionerWoodnesbrow [sic], Kent
MarthaDobleServantWid(ow)Female72Housekeeper Dom(estic)Quarden [sic], Lincolnshire
[29]

1901 Census of England & Wales: 31st March 1901
7 Luton Street, Chatham, Kent, England

First NameLast NameRelationshipMarital StatusGenderAgeOccupationBirth Place
JohnSmithHeadM(arried)Male76Army PensionerAsh, Kent
AnnSmithWifeM(arried)Female77-Spalding [sic], Lincoln(shire)
[30]

Research Notes

John consistently stated that he was born at Woodnesborough in all census until 1901, when he stated he was born at Ash. It is likely he was born at Ash but moved to Woodnesborough as a baby, soon after his father died.

There was no baptism of a John Smith (son of Thomas Smith) at Woodnesborough, and the baptism of John Smith at Ash, showed that his parents were resident at Ash at the time of his baptism (his father Thomas was also resident at Ash when he died in 1825).

Both Fold3 and FindMyPast searched for Royal Marines attestation, discharge and pension documents, but not found.

At The National Archives, there is another John Smith b. Kent circa 1824 who joined the Royal Marines in 1844, however he was discharged in 1853 at an invalid[31], so it seems unlikely it was John Smith bapt. 1824 at Ash, as he was occupied as a blacksmith from 1853-1857. Both sets of attestation documents would need to be obtained to see if they have any additional information.

Sources

  1. ↑ "Baptism of John SMITH" St. Nicholas, Ash, Kent, England Baptism Register1822-1844 1824 Pg. 93 Entry No. 744 Canterbury Cathedral Archives images available on FindMyPast (£) Accessed 7th January 2021
  2. ↑ Attestation papers to serve in the Royal Marines at Chatham 1846 (when aged 21). John Smith, born Kent. Ref: ADM 157/43/93. Folios 93-94. Available from The National Archives Accessed 20th October 2022
  3. ↑ "Marriage Index of John SMITH & Ellen WINGET" General Register Office marriage Index 1848 June quarter, Eastry Registration District Volume 5 Page 205
  4. ↑ "Marriage of John SMITH & Ellen WINGET" St. James, Staple, Kent, England Marriage Register 1836-1928 U3/183/1/8 Pg. 18 Entry No. 35 Image available at FindMyPast (£) Accessed 8th January 2021
  5. ↑ 5.0 5.1 "Baptism of George SMITH 1851" St. Mary the Virgin, Chatham, Kent, England Baptism Register 1849-1852 P85/1/33 1851 Pg. 113 Entry No. 899. 58/102 available at Medway Archives Online Accessed 7th January 2021
  6. ↑ 6.0 6.1 "Baptism of Mary Ann SMITH" St. Mary the Virgin, Chatham, Kent, England Baptism Register P85/1/34 Pg. 17 Entry No. 133 Image 10/102 available at Medway Archives Online Accessed 7th January 2021
  7. ↑ 7.0 7.1 "Baptism of John SMITH 1855" Union Street Methodist Chapel, Chatham, Kent, England Baptism register 1855 Entry No. 410. Medway Archive and Local Studies Centre; Chatham, Kent, England; Reference Number: M5/1/C/5/1. Image available at Ancestry.co.uk (£) Accessed 20th October 2022
  8. ↑ 8.0 8.1 "Burial of John SMITH 1856" Christ Church, Luton, Kent, England Burial register 1852-1872 P85D/1/8 1856 Pg. 13 Entry No. 104 8/52 Image available at Medway Archives Online Accessed 20th October 2022
  9. ↑ 9.0 9.1 "Baptism of Ester SMITH" Union Street Methodist Chapel, Chatham, Kent, England baptism Register 1862 Reference Number: M5/1/C/5/1. Original data: Medway Methodist Registers, Medway Archives and Local Studies Centre, Chatham, Kent, England. Image available at Ancestry.co.uk (£) Accessed 7th January 2021
  10. ↑ "Burial of Ellen SMITH" All Saints, Luton, Kent Burial Register P85D/1/9 Pg. 52 Entry No. 413 28/41 Image available at Medway Archives Online Accessed 8th January 2021
  11. ↑ "Copy Marriage of John SMITH & Ann DOBLE" General Register Office Copy Marriage certificate The Parish Church of Gillingham, Kent 1891 Entry No. 263
  12. ↑ "Marriage of John SMITH & Ann DOBLE" St. Mary Magdalene, Gillingham, Kent, England Marriage register 1891-1894 P153/1/36 1891 Pg. 132 Entry No. 263 5/64 Image available at Medway Archives Online Accessed 17th October 2022
  13. ↑ 13.0 13.1 "Asylum Admission Register" UK, Lunacy Patients Admission Registers, 1846-1921; 1906; The National Archives of the Uk; Kew, Surrey, England; Commissioners in Lunacy, 1845–1913. Lunacy Patients Admission Registers, Series MH 94; Piece: 40 Image available at Ancestry.co.uk (£) Accessed 20th October 2022
  14. ↑ "Death Index of John SMITH" General Register Office Death Index 1906 June quarter, Maidstone Registration District Volume 2a Page 473. Aged 81 years GRO Online Death Indexes
  15. ↑ "Transcript of burial of John SMITH" Transcript of Maidstone Road & Palmerston Road Cemetery, Chatham, Kent, England burial register 1906 Entry No. 18947. 10' available at FindMyPast (£) Accessed 20th April 2022
  16. ↑ "Birth Index of George SMITH 1851" General Register Office Birth Index 1851 June quarter, Medway Registration District Volume 5 Page 391 Mother’s Maiden Name: WINGATE GRO Online Birth Indexes
  17. ↑ "Birth Index of Mary Ann SMITH" General Register Office Birth Index 1853 March quarter, Medway Registration District Volume 2a Page 295 Mother’s Maiden Name: WINGATE GRO Online Birth Indexes
  18. ↑ "Birth Index of John SMITH" General Register Office Birth Index 1855 June quarter, Medway Registration District Volume 2a Page 303 Mother’s Maiden Name: WINGATE GRO Online Birth Indexes
  19. ↑ "Birth Index of Eleanor SMITH" General Register Office Birth Index 1857 December quarter, Medway Registration District Volume 2a Page 318 Mother’s Maiden Name: WINGATE GRO Online Birth Indexes
  20. ↑ 20.0 20.1 20.2 "1861 England and Wales Census" Class: RG 9; Piece: 479; Folio: 122; Page: 29. Original data: Census Returns of England and Wales, 1861. Kew, Surrey, England: The National Archives of the UK (TNA): Public Record Office (PRO), 1861. Image available at Ancestry.co.uk and FindMyPast (£) Accessed 8th January 2021
  21. ↑ 21.0 21.1 21.2 21.3 "1871 England and Wales Census" Class: RG10; Piece: 911; Folio: 80; Page: 7. Original data: Census Returns of England and Wales, 1871. Kew, Surrey, England: The National Archives of the UK (TNA): Public Record Office (PRO), 1871. Image available at Ancestry.co.uk and FindMyPast (£) Accessed 8th January 2021
  22. ↑ "Birth Index of Sarah Jane SMITH" General Register Office Birth Index 1860 December quarter, Medway Registration District Volume 2a Page 322 Mother’s Maiden Name: WINGATE GRO Online Birth Indexes
  23. ↑ "Baptism of Sarah Jane SMITH" Union Street Methodist Chapel, Chatham, Kent, England Baptism register 1860 Entry No. 674. Medway Archive and Local Studies Centre; Chatham, Kent, England; Reference Number: M5/1/C/5/1. Image available at Ancestry.co.uk (£) Accessed 20th October 2022
  24. ↑ "Birth Index of Esther SMITH" General Register Office Birth Index 1862 June quarter, Medway Registration District Volume 2a Page 368 Mother’s Maiden Name: WINGATE GRO Online Birth Indexes
  25. ↑ "Birth Index of George SMITH 1866" General Register Office Birth Index 1866 March quarter, Medway Registration District Volume 2a Page 439 Mother’s Maiden Name: WINGATE GRO Online Birth Indexes
  26. ↑ "1841 England and Wales Census" Class: HO107; Piece: 470; Book: 6; Civil Parish: Staple Next Wingham; County: Kent; Enumeration District: 3; Folio: 12; Page: 19. Original data: Census Returns of England and Wales, 1841. Kew, Surrey, England: The National Archives of the UK (TNA): Public Record Office (PRO), 1841. Image available at Ancestry.co.uk Ancestry.co.uk and FindMyPast (£) Accessed 8th January 2021
  27. ↑ "1851 England and Wales Census" Class: HO107; Piece: 1611; Folio: 487; Page: 19. Original data: Census Returns of England and Wales, 1851. Kew, Surrey, England: The National Archives of the UK (TNA): Public Record Office (PRO), 1851. Image available at Ancestry.co.uk Ancestry.co.uk and FindMyPast (£) Accessed 8th January 2021
  28. ↑ "1881 England and Wales Census" Class: RG11; Piece: 895; Folio: 9; Page: 11. Original data: Census Returns of England and Wales, 1881. Kew, Surrey, England: The National Archives of the UK (TNA): Public Record Office (PRO), 1881. Image available at Ancestry.co.uk and FindMyPast (£) Accessed 8th January 2021
  29. ↑ "1891 England and Wales Census" Class: RG12; Piece: 665; Folio: 11; Page: 15. Original data: Census Returns of England and Wales, 1891. Kew, Surrey, England: The National Archives of the UK (TNA): Public Record Office (PRO), 1891. Image available at Ancestry.co.uk and FindMyPast (£) Accessed 8th January 2021
  30. ↑ "1901 England and Wales Census" Class: RG13; Piece: 731; Folio: 15; Page: 22. Original data: Census Returns of England and Wales, 1901. Kew, Surrey, England: The National Archives, 1901. Image available at Ancestry.co.uk and FindMyPast (£) Accessed 8th January 2021
  31. ↑ John Smith, born Kent. Attestation papers to serve in the Royal Marines at Chatham 1844 (when aged 20). Discharged 1853 as an Invalid. Ref: ADM 157/40/598. Folios 598-600. Available from The National Archives Accessed 20th October 2022




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