John Smith Jr.
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John Smith Jr. (bef. 1794 - 1852)

John Smith Jr.
Born before in Gloucester, Essex, Massachusetts, United Statesmap [uncertain]
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Husband of — married 15 Aug 1821 in Northport, Hancock, Maine, United Statesmap
Descendants descendants
Died after age 58 in Rockland, Knox, Maine, United Statesmap
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Biography

Militia Canteen.
Private John Smith Jr. served in the Maine Militia in the War of 1812
Service started: Sept. 2 1814
Unit(s): Capt. J. Frye's Company, Lieut. Col. J. Ulmer's Regiment.
Service ended: Sept. 21, 1814
John Smith Jr..

Noted: Maine Militia, War of 1812: Lieut. Col. Jacob Ulmer's Regiment _ From Sept. 2 to Sept. 21, 1814. On the morning of September 2 General Gosselin, under cover of the British fleet at anchor in the bay, landed with 600 troops and took possession of Belfast. [JACOB ULMER, Lieut. Col. Com'dg 2d Reg. 1st. Brig. 10th Div. Mass. Militia] Cautionary Note: Date of Birth _ I have used a 1794 baptismal record from Gloucester, that I believe to be correct. John Smith's age given in the 1850 census is 50. I find that date questionable because John Smith Jr. served in the [Northport, ME] militia "from Sept. 2 to Sept. 21, 1814. Raised at Northport. Service at Belfast". To serve in the militia, on those dates, he would be at least 18 years of age, so he was born well before 1800. [ All [MA] men between 18 and 45 were required to serve in the militia.]

1814 Star Spangled Banner

August 15th [1821] Mr. John Smith [John Smith Jr. b. 1794] with Miss Elizabeth Rolinson both of Northport. page 74 Vital records of Northport, Waldo County, Maine, prior to 1892 by Mosher, Elizabeth M Publication date 1995

John Smith Jr. and wife, Elizabeth Rolerson removed from Northport to Laisdell's Island shortly after their marriage. John Smith Jr.'s father, John Smith 3rd of Northport [b. 1752] died 11 May 1824 at about age 72 at Laisdell's Island, Islesboro, Hancock, Maine, United States. So the Smith's were already residents on the island before that date of 11May 1824.

"On the evening of January 3, 1853, two young men, gunning on Jameson's Point, discovered the dead bodies of a man and woman, their broken boat and its contents, in the surf on and near the shore. They proved to be those of John Smith and his wife, long the only occupants of Laisdell's Island, who had visited Camden for a few New Year purchases, on the 31st, starting for home and their lonely children [possibly 4 or 5 children, ages 15 down to 7, the youngest possibly died young/even before the accident] just before dark; had met a head wind and some sea, and, running for Rockland harbor, had kept in too near the Point, struck a rock, and bewildered by the darkness and chilled by the cold failed to reach the shore."

History of Thomaston, Rockland and South Thomaston, Maine by Cyris Eaton 1865 - Volume II page 20

Friday Morning, January 7, 1853_Melancholy Occurrence " ... ,it was ascertained that the bodies were those of John Smith and his wife, each of them about fifty years of age, ... "... This Island, containing about two hundred acres, they had occupied alone. holding it by possession, supporting themselves by fishing, & c., ..." Rockland Gazette _Volume 7 Number 51 [?] Rockland, Maine

Heirs of John Smith Knox Lands Volume 56 Folio 509
SMITH"S ISLAND/LASELL ISLAND - KNOX COUNTY " This island has also been called both Smith's and Maker's Island. "John Smith and family, ... [see Knox Lands 56/508, 509, 510] referenced is Page 193 - The Islesboro Group - Volume I - Islands of the Mid-Maine Coast_Penobscot Bay , by Charles B. & Carol Evarts McLane Revised Edition, May, 1997

1832 " ... 4. Lassell's Island [now a part of Islesboro], which four are inhabited some of them are well cultivated and make good farms. They all lie near the western shore of Long Island [now Islesboro], ... " pages 71 & 72; The Waters and Coast; Volume 1; The history of the state of Maine : from its first discovery, A.D. 1602, to the separation, A.D. 1820, inclusive by Williamson, William D

Research Notes

Gloucester Births: John, s. John, jr., bp. Dec. 7, 1794. CR1 [CR1is First Parish Church] page 660 https://archive.org/details/vitalrecordsglo00socigoog/page/660/mode/1up

Church records, 1703-1803, First Church of Gloucester, Mass. John, s. John, jr., bp. Dec. 7, 1794 Image 187 of 235 https://congregationallibrary.quartexcollections.com/Documents/Detail/church-records-1703-1803-first-church-of-gloucester-mass./128048

The place of birth of John Smith, of this profile, is uncertain, but at the time of his marriage he is of Northport, Maine [Northport Vital Records]. John Smith's birth at Gloucester, as given in his son's record of a death [see William P Smith], is likely. https://archive.org/details/vitalrecordsofno00mosh/page/74/mode/2up?q=Rolinson&view=theater

The family of John Smith of this profile appears to originated at Cape Ann, Gloucester, MA. In the 1800 census of Northport, ME, [his father] John Smith age 26-45, head of household, two males under age 10, one female age 16 to 26, one female age 26-45, formerly of Cape Ann.

The 1810 census of Northport, has John Smith, the head of household, age 26-45. with one male child age 10-16 [John Smith bp. 1794], one female under age 10 [Esther (Smith), born 1806], one female age 26-45 [Lydia Brown]. ... born about 1764, Lydia Brown, later m and was Lydia Murch/Mrs. Zebulon Murch, m 1826 Zebulon Murch, who died 19 Aug 1832. After Mr. Murch died she m Judah Caval on 20 Oct 1833. Belfast, Maine.

SMITH, John, MA, r Gloucester, Ma b. 1752 Captain [Moses] Greenleaf's Co r Northport 1818, d Islesboro 1824, m Lydia r Belfast, 1(W23915); 3S, 4S page 723 Soldiers Sailors and Patriots of the Revolutionary War Maine by Carlton & Sue Fisher [reference: John Smith the 3rd, pension No. 13517]

"Town Record of Gloucester" " Mr. John Smith Jr. and Miss Lydia Brown of Gloucester were married ... December sixth one thousand seven hundred & nighty one." Pension Record page 7 https://www.fold3.com/image/14683017

Vital Record: John Smith m Lydia Brown https://ma-vitalrecords.org/MA/Essex/Gloucester/Images/Gloucester_M106.shtml

1. one child's death record , Wm. P Smith, says father born Gloucester [MA] I have used Gloucester because this record has the correct place of birth, Northport, Maine, for his wife, Elizabeth Rolison.

2. another child's death record, Margaret A Smith, says both parents born Smith's Island [This is in error, but links the parents to Smith's Island, Islesboro, ME]

3. the 1850 Maine Census reflects both parents of the children were born Maine?

Also found in the 1850 Census were other children that I had no information about when posting this profile. With the exception of Nancy this is still true.

Almrdia, age 5; [b. 1845 died young? no other record found]

Nancy, age 7; [b. 1643], married Joseph Rolerson When John Smith's estate is probated [docket 1521], none of these other children are listed in the settlement, except Nancy W. Smith.

James, age 9; [b, 1841 died young?]

Julia T.; age 11 [b. 1839 died young?]

John was born in 1800. John Smith ... He passed away in 1852. [1]

This profile is a collaborative work-in-progress. Can you contribute information or sources?

Sources

  1. History of Thomaston, Rockland and South Thomaston, Maine
  • War of 1812 John Smith Jr, Northport Militia Lieut. Col. Jacob Ulmer's Regt.

https://archives.mainegenealogy.net/2009/11/maine-militia-war-of-1812-lieut-col_20.html

  • History of Thomaston, Rockland and South Thomaston, Maine by Cyris Eaton 1865 - Volume II page 20

https://archive.org/stream/historythomasto01eatogoog#page/n28/mode/1up/search/Smith

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