Ellen Smith

Ellen Smith

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Ellen Smith
Born 1950s.
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Profile last modified | Created 27 Apr 2014 | Last significant change: 22 Oct 2018
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Status of Ancestry Information

The table (table format at Space:Table of Known Ancestors) below summarizes the extent of the information on my ancestry that is included in Wikitree. For the ten generations previous to mine, it shows the number of possible ancestors, the number of these ancestors who are currently identified/documented included in WikiTree, and the percentage of the possible ancestors who are identified here. Cumulative (overall) totals are also provided. Generations 9 and 10 are not up to date.

"Identified" ancestors include some with unknown last names at birth. It also includes some questionable identifications and people that I have not researched.

Gen. # Direct Relation to Self Dates of Birth Matches # # Identified in WikiTree % Identified in WikiTree Total # Total # Identified Total % Identified
2grandparent1890s1st Cousins44100.0%66100.0%
3great grandparent1850s to 1870s2nd Cousins88100.0%1414100.0%
42nd great grandparent1810s to 1850s3rd Cousins1616100.0%3030100.0%
53rd great grandparent1770s to 1820s4th Cousins3232100.0%6262100.0%
64th great grandparent1740s to 1790s5th Cousins645281.2%12611490.5%
75th great grandparent1700s to 1760s6th Cousins1288969.5%25420379.9%
86th great grandparent1670s to 1740s7th Cousins256141*55.1%51034467.5%
97th great grandparent1650s to 1700s8th Cousins512250*48.8%102259458.1%
108th great grandparent1590s to 1670s9th Cousins1024401*39.2%204698147.9%

*There are several duplicates (people who appear on multiple branches of the tree) in these generations (see "Endogamy" section below for a list). These people are counted more than once in the numbers for both possible ancestors and identified ancestors. Cumulative numbers of distinct individuals in my WikiTree-documented ancestry are: 340 at generation 8, 560 at generation 9, and 914 at generation 10.

Presidential Relatives

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Autosomal DNA matching with me may be complicated by the number of ancestors who are represented in my lineage more than once. These distant ancestors' DNA may be somewhat amplified in my DNA. Also, if the same ancestor appears on different branches of my family tree, that may reduce the chance of triangulating a particular DNA segment to a particular common ancestor.

Identified ancestors appearing in multiple lines of my ancestry include (this list is not yet complete):

Generation 8


Generation 9


Generation 10



  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 Occurs once in Generation 8 and once in Generation 9
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 2.5 2.6 2.7 Occurs once in Generation 9 and once in Generation 10

Notes on DNA Matches

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Followed Tags
Ellen is a Wiki Genealogy Volunteer following these tags:
Refers to the American Revolution and related topics. There's lots of discussion and interest about "1776."
I want to help get this new project off the ground.
So I won't miss G2G announcements of new features or changes in policy.
Categorization of profiles is an important topic.
I find myself searching G2G for this tag sometimes, so I'd better follow it.
Following activity on robot-detected data issues.
A 23andMe DNA test got me hooked into tracking more ancestors than I ever thought I'd care to know about.
I've enjoyed discovering the Netherlands roots of some of my New Netherland ancestors
As a G2G moderator, I need to follow the tag.
I want to ensure that GEDCOMpare 2.0 is as good as it can possibly be.
I have German roots (Palatine immigrants) and I read German.
Who doesn't like to see improvements?
Need to be aware of posts tagged for Leaders.
Merging of duplicate profiles -- and protecting profiles that look alike but aren't duplicates -- is an important topic for discussion in G2G.
Nearly 1/4 of my ancestry derives from New Netherland. I've learned a lot from other Wikitreers about the history & genealogy of this unique place and time. I'm serving as Project Leader..
I have Palatine immigrant ancestors in New York and Pennsylvania, and I'm currently a Project Leader for the Palatine Migration Project.
A wee bit more than half of my ancestral lines trace through colonial New England, and many of the "immigrant ancestors" arrived in the Puritan Great Migration from 1621 to 1640. I'm an NEHGS member and I've enjoyed researching this population.
I can help fix errors or resolve other problems with early profiles.
Research on early ancestors can be both richly rewarding and severely challenging.
Almost everything I do here is in the scope of the US History project, and I'm currently Project Leader.

DNA Tested
Ellen Smith's DNA has been tested for genealogical purposes. It may be possible to confirm family relationships by comparing test results with Ellen or other carriers of her ancestors' mitochondrial DNA. Mitochondrial DNA test-takers in the direct maternal line:
  • Ellen Smith: Mitochondrial DNA Test Other, haplogroup H1e
It is likely that these autosomal DNA test-takers will share DNA with Ellen:
  • Ellen Smith: 23andMe, GEDmatch M162952 + Autosomal DNA Test, GEDmatch EP9026105

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On 17 Oct 2018 at 20:20 GMT Liz (Noland) Shifflett wrote:

Thanks for the detailed reply. I've left the category off of Watkins-311, having removed the citation you referred to (it was a research note about a possible distant relative/immigrant Watkins) but I left the Research Note about the fraud and also added the category/research notes to several Watkins profiles that the excerpt was referring to (and to the profile for the wife/mother of two of them).

Thanks again!

On 17 Oct 2018 at 16:22 GMT Liz (Noland) Shifflett wrote:

Ellen - I just removed a fraud category for a profile (Watkins-311) & added information about it in the Research Notes section of the profile instead. Then I saw your April 2018 comment about adding the category with the note to not remove it.

Is that still the current thinking about fraud categories? I seem to recall a proposal to only have the category on the fraudulent profiles & a research note in profiles that weren't (and of course I can't find that now).

Anyway, Watkins-311 is sourced. It's a real person in a real family. If the intent is to alert people that the family name might be tainted by the fraud, doesn't having the info in the Research Notes section do that?

Thanks, Liz

On 11 Oct 2018 at 05:06 GMT Jeff Clark wrote:

Hi, thanks for the reminder on the abbreviations. Too much time spent in industries where TLA's are standard fare!

My Clarks came to Bangor, maine by way of the St. John Valley. Rebels in Nova Scotia that ducked the authoraties rather than report to them, the records are scarce.

Looks like Elias and Moses Clark of Cornwallis are 'warm leads', but they are not descendents of Asa --> Daniel Clark, so they arrived in Cornwallis independent. Other Clarks went straight to Maugerville as did some related Bubiers... It's a ball of yarn with a lot of knots!

On 11 Oct 2018 at 03:05 GMT Virginia (Butter) Fields wrote:

Hi Ellen,

Earlier this evening you asked if Johannes Thoma was part of the Germanna Colony. Yes, he arrived with the 2nd group in 1717.

On 8 Oct 2018 at 02:51 GMT Erika Fels wrote:

I have reason to believe that my ancestors who left Posen, Prussia for Australia in the 12 months before August 1863 had ancestors who were Palatines who may have lived in England, ( as refugees). I am aware that ethnic Germans were leaving England to emigrate to Posen, Prussia. I am trying to find some historical fact to back this up. Can someone help me please?

On 7 Oct 2018 at 19:45 GMT Lyssa Jada-Marie Hawgood wrote:

Hi Ellen,

The ancestry profile is all I have. I copy everything from that page and put it in the notes. So, I'm unsure what to do. I was told by to add all I could from that page so i dont know what else to do. Im kinda new to this. Sorry.

On 6 Oct 2018 at 14:06 GMT jo Steamasar wrote:

Hi Ellen,

To answer your question; The reason I have not joined as a volunteer is because I am afraid I will make mistakes and mess something up. So I just use guest mode and research my family ancestry. Jo

On 3 Oct 2018 at 10:04 GMT Tanya Lowry wrote:

Hi Ellen....as to your "theory" about sold fraudulant genealogy...lol. That fraudster sure got around! He convinced that whole line...even before computers! I am sure that was one rich or diabolical man and some really silly/simple country folk. Because this fraudulant lineage convinced a lot of people they didnt know who their family members were...

Never mind Letters...bibles...documents... those too...all forged. Curiouser and Alice in Wonderlandish. I will let my Grandmother's family know right away to burn it all. Then...I am going go buy new relatives because these ones were very gullible. Lol T.

On 2 Oct 2018 at 15:48 GMT Mary Richardson wrote:

Ellen, (the broad Categories) Thanks for bringing Adams Co. Colorado to my attention. I finished that page, after a lady left WikiTree.

I think I had a brain freeze when adding Fremont County , thus removed..

2015 I think, (long long ago) we did US Southern Colonies Project, Subproject Nueva Espana which had a map that connected the Southern Colonies on the Eastern Coast to Nueva Espana, Mexico and Texas Colony, then Republic of Texas, and later territories of New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, Utah, and Colorado. which began as colonies, then Territories, until States.. (cut off dates for that project..

However that category appeared incorrect. Hope Adams is better now..

Mary ~~

On 28 Sep 2018 at 01:12 GMT Tanya Lowry wrote:

my name...isn't Tamara...LOL

anyway...I put that there for Connie, to look at as I don't like stepping on toes or trees. In my opinion its her baby, not mine as it was there before i came on this site. I just thought I'd share. If someone wishes to use it, great! I have enough to do with navigating this site and learning to do this sourcing thing. Note: I don't need your assistance...I have a mentor already and they explain things well and they seem to understand my learning style. Oh by the way...thanks for taking care of the project New_Netherland I trust that garden (tree) is absolutely fabulous. Unfortunately, I will never add another thing to it because my family tree is considered a myth these days and that leads me to believe a DeGraff was a pathological liar...oh well! :-)

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