Ellen Smith

Ellen Smith

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Ellen Smith
Born 1950s.
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Profile last modified | Created 27 Apr 2014 | Last significant change: 16 Dec 2018
05:31: Gaynelle (Craig) Stephens edited a message from Gaynelle (Craig) Stephens on the page for Ellen Smith. [Thank Gaynelle for this]
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Wiki Genealogist November 2018 Club 1,000 WikiTree Leader New Netherland Project Member US History Project Member Puritan Great Migration Project Member Mentor G2G Moderator German Roots Project Member Pre-1500 Super Star Generous Genealogist -  Green Star Generous Genealogist - Blue Star Community Star Family Star Generous Genealogist - Red Star Project Coordinator October 2018 Club 1,000 September 2018 Club 1,000 August 2018 Club 1,000
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Categories: Smith-62120 | New Netherland Settlers Project | Puritan Great Migration Project | WikiTree Leaders.



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Status of Ancestry Information

The table (table format at Space:Table of Known Ancestors) below summarizes the extent of the information on my ancestry that is included in Wikitree. For the ten generations previous to mine, it shows the number of possible ancestors, the number of these ancestors who are currently identified/documented included in WikiTree, and the percentage of the possible ancestors who are identified here. Cumulative (overall) totals are also provided. Generations 9 and 10 are not up to date.

"Identified" ancestors include some with unknown last names at birth. It also includes some questionable identifications and people that I have not researched.

Gen. # Direct Relation to Self Dates of Birth Matches # # Identified in WikiTree % Identified in WikiTree Total # Total # Identified Total % Identified
2grandparent1890s1st Cousins44100.0%66100.0%
3great grandparent1850s to 1870s2nd Cousins88100.0%1414100.0%
42nd great grandparent1810s to 1850s3rd Cousins1616100.0%3030100.0%
53rd great grandparent1770s to 1820s4th Cousins3232100.0%6262100.0%
64th great grandparent1740s to 1790s5th Cousins645281.2%12611490.5%
75th great grandparent1700s to 1760s6th Cousins1288969.5%25420379.9%
86th great grandparent1670s to 1740s7th Cousins256141*55.1%51034467.5%
97th great grandparent1650s to 1700s8th Cousins512250*48.8%102259458.1%
108th great grandparent1590s to 1670s9th Cousins1024401*39.2%204698147.9%

*There are several duplicates (people who appear on multiple branches of the tree) in these generations (see "Endogamy" section below for a list). These people are counted more than once in the numbers for both possible ancestors and identified ancestors. Cumulative numbers of distinct individuals in my WikiTree-documented ancestry are: 343 at generation 8, 570 at generation 9, and 934 at generation 10.

Presidential Relatives

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Autosomal DNA matching with me may be complicated by the number of ancestors who are represented in my lineage more than once. These distant ancestors' DNA may be somewhat amplified in my DNA. Also, if the same ancestor appears on different branches of my family tree, that may reduce the chance of triangulating a particular DNA segment to a particular common ancestor.

Identified ancestors appearing in multiple lines of my ancestry include (this list is not yet complete):

Generation 8


Generation 9


Generation 10



  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 Occurs once in Generation 8 and once in Generation 9
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 2.5 2.6 2.7 Occurs once in Generation 9 and once in Generation 10

Notes on DNA Matches

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Followed Tags
Ellen is a Wiki Genealogy Volunteer following these tags:
Refers to the American Revolution and related topics. There's lots of discussion and interest about "1776."
I want to help advance this project.
So I won't miss G2G announcements of new features or changes in policy.
Categorization of profiles is an important topic.
I find myself searching G2G for this tag sometimes, so I'd better follow it.
Following activity on robot-detected data issues.
A 23andMe DNA test got me hooked into tracking more ancestors than I ever thought I'd care to know about.
I've enjoyed discovering the Netherlands roots of some of my New Netherland ancestors
As a G2G moderator, I need to follow the tag.
I want to ensure that GEDCOMpare 2.0 is as good as it can possibly be.
I have German roots (Palatine immigrants) and I read German.
Who doesn't like to see improvements?
Need to be aware of posts tagged for Leaders.
Merging of duplicate profiles -- and protecting profiles that look alike but aren't duplicates -- is an important topic for discussion in G2G.
Nearly 1/4 of my ancestry derives from New Netherland. I've learned a lot from other Wikitreers about the history & genealogy of this unique place and time. I'm serving as Project Leader..
I have Palatine immigrant ancestors in New York and Pennsylvania, and I'm currently a Project Leader for the Palatine Migration Project.
A wee bit more than half of my ancestral lines trace through colonial New England, and many of the "immigrant ancestors" arrived in the Puritan Great Migration from 1621 to 1640. I'm an NEHGS member and I've enjoyed researching this population.
I can help fix errors or resolve other problems with early profiles.
Research on early ancestors can be both richly rewarding and severely challenging.
Almost everything I do here is in the scope of the US History project, and I'm currently Project Leader.

DNA Tested
Ellen Smith's DNA has been tested for genealogical purposes. It may be possible to confirm family relationships by comparing test results with Ellen or other carriers of her ancestors' mitochondrial DNA. Mitochondrial DNA test-takers in the direct maternal line:
  • Ellen Smith: Mitochondrial DNA Test Other, haplogroup H1e
It is likely that these autosomal DNA test-takers will share DNA with Ellen:

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On 16 Dec 2018 at 05:29 GMT Gaynelle (Craig) Stephens wrote:

Hi Ellen -Wiki tree - Rivoire-3 D'Revoir 1 Dutch RootsProject De Rivier-1 Revoire-1 Revere-1 American Revolution Project wiki tree

Apollos Paul Rivoire father of Paul Revere had a brother Abraham Rivoire who was named after his father who was Abraham Isaac Rivoire ... my 7th ggrandfather ...because of the many spellings there is much confusion ...we have a handed down story that Paul Revere was a 1st cousin to my 6th ggrandmother. Also they all attended the Sleepy Hollow Church(baptismal records) and lived in Westchester county. Help me to sort this out please.

On 9 Dec 2018 at 06:36 GMT Anonymous (Holland) Carroll wrote:

Hi Ellen

Thank you for the interest and sources on the Holland line. I did a little checking on my Holland line that I have on Ancestry and have added a source for Nathaniel Holland Jr. (Holland-727) and Mary White-21951 to images on their profile pages. Hopes this will help you in your research.

Source: U.S., New England Marriages Prior to 1700 for Nathaniel Holland.

Thank you! Holland-3338

On 7 Dec 2018 at 18:57 GMT Terry Welshans wrote:

Re: Bates-1769. I have removed Alice as his wife per your research. Thanks, Ellen.

On 28 Nov 2018 at 04:01 GMT Tanya Lowry wrote:

I just put the pdf up so it won't disappear. I am not sure how to do all that fun stuff with sourcing. I just find things and add as untouchable sources as I can. In this case, I put it in as an image. Once I am more confident with getting those things look right i will. Don't do it for me...I will play around and see if I can change it when i add her children in. "Practical learner" here!  :-)

On 27 Nov 2018 at 23:43 GMT Tanya Lowry wrote:

Hi Ellen,

Have you seen this? Wondering what you make of it if you have not. http://revwarny.com/lighthallwilliam.pdf Tanya

On 26 Nov 2018 at 00:43 GMT Bea (Timmerman) Wijma wrote:

Hi Ellen,

Removed the category from Provoost-2, it's from the time when they all still had a lot of duplicates and we were trying to sort them all out and indeed no longer needed  ;)

Greets and have a wonderful day,


ps: feel free to remove the category from profiles where it's no longer relevant or needed no need to ask girl

On 25 Nov 2018 at 04:58 GMT Ray Jones wrote:

Thanks Ellen! I appreciate your response. I will keep making these edits.

On 25 Nov 2018 at 03:01 GMT Miranda (Hollenbeck) Cartier wrote:

Thanks Ellen

On 17 Oct 2018 at 20:20 GMT Liz (Noland) Shifflett wrote:

Thanks for the detailed reply. I've left the category off of Watkins-311, having removed the citation you referred to (it was a research note about a possible distant relative/immigrant Watkins) but I left the Research Note about the fraud and also added the category/research notes to several Watkins profiles that the excerpt was referring to (and to the profile for the wife/mother of two of them).

Thanks again!

On 17 Oct 2018 at 16:22 GMT Liz (Noland) Shifflett wrote:

Ellen - I just removed a fraud category for a profile (Watkins-311) & added information about it in the Research Notes section of the profile instead. Then I saw your April 2018 comment about adding the category with the note to not remove it.

Is that still the current thinking about fraud categories? I seem to recall a proposal to only have the category on the fraudulent profiles & a research note in profiles that weren't (and of course I can't find that now).

Anyway, Watkins-311 is sourced. It's a real person in a real family. If the intent is to alert people that the family name might be tainted by the fraud, doesn't having the info in the Research Notes section do that?

Thanks, Liz

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