Ellen  Smith

Ellen Smith

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Ellen Smith
Born 1950s.
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Smith-62120 created 27 Apr 2014 | Last modified | Last edit: 19 Oct 2017
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Categories: Smith-62120 | New Netherland Settlers Project | Puritan Great Migration Project.



Status of Ancestry Information

The table below summarizes the extent of the information on my ancestry that is included in Wikitree. For the ten generations previous to mine, it shows the number of possible ancestors, the number of these ancestors who are currently identified/documented included in WikiTree, and the percentage of the possible ancestors who are identified here. Cumulative (overall) totals are also provided. Generations 8, 9, and 10 are not up to date.

"Identified" ancestors include some with unknown last names at birth. It also includes some questionable identifications and people that I have not researched.

Gen. # Direct Relation to Self Dates of Birth Matches # # Identified in WikiTree % Identified in WikiTree Total # Total # Identified Total % Identified
2grandparent1890s1st Cousins44100.0%66100.0%
3great grandparent1850s to 1870s2nd Cousins88100.0%1414100.0%
42nd great grandparent1810s to 1850s3rd Cousins1616100.0%3030100.0%
53rd great grandparent1770s to 1820s4th Cousins3232100.0%6262100.0%
64th great grandparent1740s to 1790s5th Cousins645281.2%12611490.5%
75th great grandparent1700s to 1760s6th Cousins1288868.8%25420279,5%
86th great grandparent1670s to 1740s7th Cousins256135*52.7%51033665.9%
97th great grandparent1650s to 1700s8th Cousins512236*46.1%102257256.0%
108th great grandparent1590s to 1670s9th Cousins1024401*39.2%204697347.6%

*There are several duplicates (people who appear on multiple branches of the tree) in these generations (see "Endogamy" section below for a list). These people are counted more than once in the numbers for both possible ancestors and identified ancestors. Cumulative numbers of distinct individuals in my WikiTree-documented ancestry are: 332 at generation 8, 543 at generation 9, and 882 at generation 10.

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Autosomal DNA matching with me may be complicated by the number of ancestors who are represented in my lineage more than once. These distant ancestors' DNA may be somewhat amplified in my DNA. Also, if the same ancestor appears on different branches of my family tree, that may reduce the chance of triangulating a particular DNA segment to a particular common ancestor.

Identified ancestors appearing in multiple lines of my ancestry include (this list is not yet complete):

Generation 8


Generation 9


Generation 10



  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 Occurs once in Generation 8 and once in Generation 9
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 2.5 2.6 2.7 Occurs once in Generation 9 and once in Generation 10

Notes on DNA Matches

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Followed Tags
Ellen is a Wiki Genealogy Volunteer following these tags:
There's been lots of discussion and interest in "1776."
I want to help get this new project off the ground.
So I won't miss G2G announcements of new features or changes in policy.
Categorization of profiles is an important topic.
I find myself searching G2G for this tag sometimes, so I'd better follow it.
Following activity on robot-detected data issues.
A 23andMe DNA test got me hooked into tracking more ancestors than I ever thought I'd care to know about.
I've enjoyed discovering the Netherlands roots of some of my New Netherland ancestors
As a G2G moderator, I need to follow the tag.
I'm interesting in ensuring that GEDCOMpare 2.0 is as good as it can possibly be.
I have German roots (Palatine immigrants) and I read German.
Who doesn't like to see improvements?
Merging of duplicate profiles -- and protecting profiles that look alike but aren't duplicates -- is an important topic for discussion in G2G.
Nearly 1/4 of my ancestry derives from New Netherland. I've learned a lot from other Wikitreers about the history & genealogy of this unique place and time. I'm serving as a Project Coordinator.
I have Palatine immigrant ancestors in New York and Pennsylvania.
A wee bit more than half of my ancestral lines trace through colonial New England, and many of the "immigrant ancestors" arrived in the Puritan Great Migration from 1621 to 1640. I'm an NEHGS member and I've enjoyed researching this population.
I can help fix errors or resolve other problems with early profiles.
Research on early ancestors can be both richly rewarding and severely challenging.
Almost everything I do here is in the scope of the US History project.

DNA Tested
Ellen Smith's DNA has been tested for genealogical purposes. It may be possible to confirm family relationships by comparing test results with Ellen or other carriers of her ancestors' mitochondrial DNA. Mitochondrial DNA test-takers in the direct maternal line:
  • Ellen Smith: Mitochondrial DNA Test Other, haplogroup H1e
It is likely that these autosomal DNA test-takers will share DNA with Ellen:
  • Ellen Smith: 23andMe, GEDmatch M162952

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On 19 Oct 2017 at 20:13 GMT Dorothy Barry wrote:

Hi Ellen, could you assist with this please.....


Thanks Dorothy B.

On 18 Oct 2017 at 21:26 GMT C Ryder wrote:

Hello again Ellen, in reply to your recent question about my gedmatch cousins. I'm *getting close* to finding relatives on my dad's side. Ran out of time, will pick up the threads shortly. But do need more instruction on DNA.

On my mom's side there are some "uncertain" relationships, which research cannot confirm or infirm. I wonder how DNA analysis could help with that. I have a wikitreer cousin who shares these "uncertain" ancestors with me. I wonder how to come up with conclusions.

On 14 Oct 2017 at 20:31 GMT Sarah Krans wrote:

Thank you for he potential information on Benjamin Davenport (Daveport-2353). I have not found much about where he is from, other than Census records having him born in either NY or NJ, serving at Sackett’s Harbor during the War of 1812, and that he was the first Dutch Reformed Minister in Washington Co, WI. I will definitely take a look at the Dutches County Davenports.

On 13 Oct 2017 at 22:33 GMT L Sauls wrote:

Hi Ellen,

Thank you for your help with the work on Mary (Unknown) Brewster Partridge, formerly Mary Cullis. I think I have got it mostly straightened out... The new wife & mother in the family is Unknown-390677.

On 12 Oct 2017 at 05:17 GMT C Ryder wrote:

Ellen, if our DNA confirms we're cousins, that would also confirm "uncertain" parental relationships in my tree.

On 8 Oct 2017 at 15:59 GMT C Ryder wrote:

Thank you Ellen for recategorizing my question on G2G. Did you see we might be cousins?

On 6 Oct 2017 at 02:30 GMT Paul Horvat wrote:

I wanted to add that I administered a Van Allen DNA project long ago on the Van Allen family. My uncle, Larry Van Allen, was an identical match to a descendant of Jacob Van Allen, Sr., U.E.L., so I KNOW they are related. Likewise, there was another individual that had the same ancestry as the famous physicist, James Alfred Van Allen. He also was an identical match to my uncle, which was exciting. I will be going to Salt Lake City in a few weeks, so will take some time when there to try to find more information on Jacob Van Allen, Sr., UEL.

On 6 Oct 2017 at 02:21 GMT Paul Horvat wrote:

Ellen, I did look at the listed sources used to substantiate information regarding Jacob Van Allen, Sr., UEL, b. 1754. I DO have a copy of the Descendants of Jacob Van Allen, U.E.L., that I bought back in 1991. Jacob's parents are not mentioned in that source. You may/may not know that the IGI was absorbed into the online database at www.familysearch.org, and I did not find a citation for Jacob's birth/baptism. A copy of the bible record was not submitted either, so I don't know if his parents are mentioned in the bible record. The information that I received from Gail Spanier long ago conflicts with the parental information that had been submitted in the Bower genealogy. Without seeing anything that I know to be concrete, I hesitate to make the parental connection that was formerly made.

On 3 Oct 2017 at 20:07 GMT Paul Horvat wrote:

Thanks, Ellen. I did have the death date wrong in my message, which I've corrected below. If Jacob Van Allen and Rachel Quackenbush had any other children, I have never seen it cited anywhere, i.e. not in the Van Alen/Van Allen genealogy, compiled by the Rev. Harry John Van Allen/Innes Getty, nor in Pearson's early families of Schenectady or Albany. I am curious as to who he is, because he is said to be of the Mohawk River valley, and is of an age that he could be a child of Jacob Van Allen/Rachel Quackenbush. Jacob's son, Peter, and his sister, Sarah, were baptized at Fort Hunter, NY. Do you happen to have a copy of the bible record for Jacob Van Allen, UEL?

On 3 Oct 2017 at 14:43 GMT Paul Horvat wrote:

Jacob Van Allen, UEL, was born about 1754, and d. about Oct. 3, 1836, the date of the registration of his last will and testament, all this according to Descendants of Jacob Van Allen, UEL by Lynne Cook and K. VanderBaaren. According to the Compendium of Early Mohawk Valley Families by Maryly Penrose, Jacob Van Allen, who married Rachel Quackenbush, had two children at Ft. Hunter, NY, i.e. Peter, and Sarah. This Jacobus, who, md. Rachel Quackenbush, was born about 1713, and Stephanus, who md. Maria Cornelisse Mulder, was b. 1680. It is obvious that the Jacob Van Allen UEL, b. 1754 is way too old to be a son of Stephanus. Jacob Van Allen, UEL, could have been a contemporary of my 5th great grandfather, Peter Van Allen, who md. Maria Ellwood, but was born too late to be a son of Stephanus

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