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Thomas Ballard Smith (1720 - 1797)

Capt Thomas Ballard Smith
Born in Middlesex, Virginiamap
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Died at age 76 in Rockingham County, North Carolina, United Statesmap
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Biography

Daughters of the American Revolution
Thomas Smith is a DAR Patriot Ancestor, A208772.

Thomas was born about 1720. He passed away about 1797.

Bio by Find A Grave Thomas Smith II was the son of Thomas Smith I and Unknown. Thomas Smith I was born in England. Thomas Smith, of England, came to America and settled in Virginia.

Thomas II married and Miss Unknown Davis. They had 4 children that I know of: Charles, Thomas III, John Sr. and Moses Smith.

Thomas's sons, Moses and Thomas III, along with an Ezekiale Smith, John Hibbard, Isaac Jones and William Jones, are said to be "The First Families of Goose Creek." When these Smith-Hibbard-Jones settlers purchased their lands there (in the late-1700's), Goose Creek was a part of Knox County, KY, but in 1807, that section became a part of Clay County, KY.

Sources

  • John Witt, III
  • Smith Ancestry
  • Thomas Smith in the North Carolina, Marriage Index, 1741-2004; Ancestry.com. North Carolina, Marriage Index, 1741-2004 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2007.
  • U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 marriage to Elizabeth Witt in North Carolina
  • "The Smith Family of Rockingham, North Carolina, Volume I ; Drury Smith of Paw Paw Creek; A Compilation of Descendants by Elvin E. Perkins, Jr."
  • "Descendants of Thomas Smith (ca) 1720 -1989" Compiled by Hazel W. Smith, 1989"
  • A History of the Pioneer Families of Missouri by Wm. S. Bryan and Robert Rose 1876 (Section) Calloway Families N-S
  • Find A Grave: Memorial #200624686
  • DAR Patriot Ancestor #A208772

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Noland-165 Liz (Noland) Shifflett
I've set the match with Thomas Ballard Smith (Smith-12059) as rejected. That Thomas left a will proved in Louisa County, Virginia in 1778, naming his children (who are different than those attached to this profile).

I intend to remove "Ballard" as middle name. Neither his DAR record nor his FindAGrave memorial (two of the sources cited that I could access) gives him a middle name. Both also have his death well after 1778, in North Carolina (DAR says post 1797 & FindAGrave says 1800). Robert Baird's cited page about John Witt refers to just "Thomas Smith" (no Ballard or II) and says that he "left a will in Rockingham County, North Carolina in 1797".

Considering the sources (aside from Geni, which seemed to have a lot of conflicting information) do not support that he is "Thomas Ballard Smith II",* I think that the parents - John Smith & his wife Elizabeth Whitfield - should be re-attached. If no objection, I'll see if I can track them down & reattach them.

Cheers, Liz

* The text of this profile, apparently citing FindAGrave,** refers to him as Thomas Smith II, son of Thomas Smith I (no "Ballard"), but his FindAGrave memorial says that he is believed to be son of John Smith - no mention of a Thomas Smith I of England.

** "Bio by Find A Grave Thomas Smith II was the son of Thomas Smith I and Unknown. Thomas Smith I was born in England. Thomas Smith, of England, came to America and settled in Virginia...." This statement about Thomas Smith II/Thomas Smith I is from the Geni entry, which does not appear to be reliable.

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Phelps-3330 Lisa (Phelps) Linn M.S.Ed.
I removed the parents, John Smith, and Elizabeth Whitfield as it clearly states that he is the son of Thomas Ballard Smith I.
posted by Lisa (Phelps) Linn M.S.Ed.
Granstrom-5 Erik Granstrom
Smith-12059 and Smith-8676 appear to represent the same person because: They look like two profiles that each have information for the first and second marriages of Thomas Ballard Smith.

"Thomas Ballard Smith." Geni. Accessed Oct. 10th, 2020. https://www.geni.com/people/Capt-Thomas-Smith/6000000000201978561.

posted by Erik Granstrom
Leger-741 Loretta (Leger) Corbin
A birth date (Smith-8676 born 30 Oct 1720) is more than 40 years before or after a sibling's birth date (Smith-20836 born 1765) .
posted by Loretta (Leger) Corbin
Greta Moody
Smith-8676 and Smith-149023 appear to represent the same person because: Same exact birth and death dates. Same spouse.
posted by Greta Moody
Nic (Odom) Baker
I guess I'm not seeing how Thomas II is the son of John. Thomas is not in John's will and it stands to reason that Thomas II would be the son of Thomas I. How have we established this connection?
posted by Nic (Odom) Baker
Noland-165 Liz (Noland) Shifflett
ah! Thanks for the note about John's will not naming a son Thomas. I had just posted a comment proposing, in part, that the profile for John Smith be reattached as his father.

As for I/II, I don't find any contemporary sources that label him "II". And even so, colonial Virginia records would often assign Jr/Sr simply to distinguish to adults with the same name in the same area, regardless of their relationship (and perhaps I/II, but I haven't seen such use in the records; usually if three people with the same name needed to be distinguished, the oldest would be Sr, the next Jr, & the youngest III). Aside from "son xx Jr" named in a will, I generally ignore Jr/Sr in the records - which also tends to be fluid, with Jrs becoming Srs as the previous Senior dies and a younger person of the name reaches adulthood.

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Leger-741 Loretta (Leger) Corbin
FAG 58170032 Thomas Smith II was the son of Thomas Smith I and Unknown. Thomas Smith I was born in England. Thomas Smith, of England, came to America and settled in VA.

Thomas II married and Miss Davis Unknown. They had 4 children that I know of: Charles, Thomas III, John Sr. and Moses Smith.

John was married first to REBECCA JEFFERS. He was married the 2nd time to SARAH MOSELEY.

Thomas's sons, Moses and Thomas-III, along with an Ezekiale Smith, John Hibbard, Isaac Jones and William Jones, are said to be "The First Families of Goose Creek." When these Smith-Hibbard-Jones settlers purchased their lands there (in the late-1700's), Goose Creek was a part of Knox County, KY, but in 1807, that section became a part of Clay County, KY.

posted by Loretta (Leger) Corbin
Noland-165 Liz (Noland) Shifflett
FindAGrave Memorial #58170032 has been merged into https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/200624686/thomas-smith (which does not Thomas Smith I or call him Thomas Smith II; it does state that his father is believed to be John Smith).
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Leger-741 Loretta (Leger) Corbin
According to the FAG listed Rebecca Jeffers married John Smith and not Thomas.
posted by Loretta (Leger) Corbin
Leger-741 Loretta (Leger) Corbin
Smith-8676 and Smith-123403 appear to represent the same person because: Please explain why this is not a match. Just rejecting it is not good enough.
posted by Loretta (Leger) Corbin
Leger-741 Loretta (Leger) Corbin
Smith-8676 and Smith-123403 appear to represent the same person because: The following Mergers need to take place in this order: Smith-150597 into Smith-8676, THEN MERGE Unknown-409929 into Smith-182 (Change LNAB for Unknown-409929 to Smith), THEN MERGE Mayes-886 into Mayes-591, THEN MERGE Smith-150601 into Smith-105671, THEN MERGE Smith-150594 into Smith-105672, THEN MERGE Smith-150606 into Smith-105674, THEN MERGE Mayes-1081 into Mayes-885, THEN MERGE Smith-150605 into Smith-53074.
posted by Loretta (Leger) Corbin
Leger-741 Loretta (Leger) Corbin
The following Mergers need to take place in this order: Smith-150597 into Smith-8676, THEN MERGE Unknown-409929 into Witt-182 (Change LNAB for Unknown-409929 to Witt), THEN MERGE Mayes-886 into Mayes-591, THEN MERGE Smith-150601 into Smith-105671, THEN MERGE Smith-150594 into Smith-105672, THEN MERGE Smith-150606 into Smith-105674, THEN MERGE Mayes-1081 into Mayes-885, THEN MERGE Smith-150605 into Smith-53074.
posted by Loretta (Leger) Corbin
Ramsey-1224 Cindy (Ramsey) Barnett
Smith-150597 and Smith-8676 appear to represent the same person because: Clear duplicate
posted by Cindy (Ramsey) Barnett
Ebert-456 Cari (Ebert) Starosta
Smith-53073 and Smith-8676 appear to represent the same person because: Same birth, death, parents, spouse
posted by Cari (Ebert) Starosta

Rejected matches › Thomas Smith (-1795) › Thomas Joseph Smith Sr. (abt.1718-aft.1793) › Thomas Stokes Smith (1719-1786) › Thomas Smith (1720-1797) › Thomas Smith (abt.1846-bef.1879) › Thomas Smith (1712-1790) › Thomas Ballard Smith (abt.1705-1777)

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