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Sonicooie (Cherokee) Cordery (1764 - 1835)

Sonicooie (Susannah) "Soniovie" Cordery formerly Cherokee
Born in Cherokee Nation (East)map
Daughter of [uncertain] and [uncertain]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Wife of — married about 1785 in Cherokee Nation (East)map
Descendants descendants
Mother of , , , , , , , and
Died at about age 71 in Suwanee, Gwinnett, Georgia, United Statesmap
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While various unsourced trees have tried to assign parents to Susannah, no documentation has been presented to support any claims as to who her parents may be.

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Biography

Susannah was Cherokee.
Susannah (Cherokee) Cordery was a member of the Cherokee Wild Potato Clan.

Susannah Sonicooie was born about 1768 in the Cherokee Nation. Her parents names are unknown but she was a full-blood Cherokee, a member of the Blind Savannah Clan. [1]

She married a white man named Thomas Cordery about 1785. They were the parents of eight children: Sarah Cordery, Lucy Cordery, Nancy Ann Cordery, Charlotte Cordery, David Cordery, Hettie Cordery, Early Cordery, and Susan Cordery. [2] They are the great, Great Grandparents of Will Rogers on his father's side through Lucy Cordery Rogers. Thomas Cordery took a reservation of land "in right of his wife" under the treaty of 1817. [3]

Susannah died in 1841 at Cumming, Georgia. [4]

Notes

The name Sonicooie, or the alternate spelling of Soniovie, was her given name. It is not a surname. The Cherokee language has no 'v' sound. The 'v' is used phonetically to represent a nasalized 'u' or 'oo' that the English language does not have. Susannah was a name that was used for her after she began living amongst Europeans. In the rules of Wikitree, for Native Americans with no LNAB, we use the name of the tribe in that spot.

Her name has also been recorded by family as Rosanna Blue as was reported in Benedict's biography on John Rogers. [5]It seems likely that the Sonicooie/So-ni-gu-i/Soniovie/Saunooke would all be acceptable phonetic spellings for a word that probably originally meant blue or a particular type of blue. The Cherokee word for blue is spelled sa-go-ni-ge on the lexicon on the [Cherokee website]. It appears to have originally been a popular given name amongst the Cherokee and not a surname as they have come to be used since colonization though it is now sometimes used as such.

Sources

  1. ↑ Shadburn, Don. Unhallowed Intrusion. privately published, Cuming , GA, 1993. p. 88
  2. ↑ Hampton, David K., Cherokee Mixed-Bloods. Arc Press of Cane Hill, Lincoln, Arkansas. 2005. p. 17
  3. ↑ Hampton, David K. , compiler, Cherokee Reservees. Baker Publishing Co., Oklahoma City, OK. 1979, p. 1
  4. ↑ Shadburn, p. 98
  5. ↑ [John Rogers Biography by Benedict.]
  • Starr, Emmet, History of the Cherokee Indians and Their Legends and Folklore, reprint by Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., originally published 1921.
  • Benedict, John Downing. Muskogee and Northeastern Oklahoma: including the counties of Muskogee, McIntosh, Wagoner, Cherokee, Sequoyah, Adair, Delaware, Mayes, Rogers, Washington, Nowata, Craig, and Ottawa. Chicago: S.J. Clarke Pub. Co., 1922.

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  • This person was created on 18 March 2011 through the import of knox17032011.ged.




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Daniel Baird
James Hicks states in his book “Cherokee Lineages“ that Thomas Cordery married Susannah So Ni Gu I, in 1785, daughter of So Ni Gu I, born 1764.
posted by Daniel Baird
Parks-2399 Kathie (Parks) Forbes
Susannah's parents are unknown except for the clan of her mother, but since they keep getting re-created I suggest that we leave them as placeholders.
posted by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
edited by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
Kim Dobbins
That sounds fine. I apologize for any confusion I may have caused. Susannah is part of my family line through the cordreys (potentially). And I am trying to learn more about my family tree. :)
posted by Kim Dobbins
Huffman-3868 Mitch Huffman
Sonicooie-10 and Cherokee-112 appear to represent the same person because: New to the site, and was adding people in my Cherokee ancestry and added Susannah Sonicooie, I didn't see any close matches listed. I then went onto the web to look up Will Rogers family tree to remind myself where his connection to Susannah was. That led me back to WikiTree, and realized that Cherokee-112 is the same person that I created Sonicooie-10 for, and would like to defer my record for Cherokee-112. I don't want to modify Cherokee-112 in any way, just want to connect my tree with it.
posted by Mitch Huffman
Morton-7125 LaMyra Morton
I first started learning about my Cherokee ancestors back in the 1970's. One of mother's cousins, Nancy Rogers was doing research and consulted with Reba Collins, curator of the Will Rogers Museum in Claremore at the time. What we were taught was that her name was Sonicooie. Period. That is all. Susannah was an add-on that came later for the convenience of English speakers.

I had never heard of Blue Sonicooie or Kathleen Pomeroy before coming on Wikitree. I have not located any primary or even secondary source to support them as parents of the wife of Thomas Cordery. Unless someone can provide a genuine source besides another bogus tree, I don't believe they belong here.

posted by LaMyra Morton
Hayes-3650 Mike Hayes
documentation funny considering i'm only the 5th person in my family to have a birth certificate my father was first, the only link is the "old settler cherokee rolls" that my grandfathers, grandmother is on and received payments for after winning lawsuit

Lucy Elizabeth (Cordery) Rogers mother of Nancy Rogers (Anderson) mother of

  • Sarah Ann Anderson (Hayes) mother of
  • Edward O'hal Hayes father of
  • Mike F.C. Hayes father of
  • Edward L. Hayes father of
  • Mike Hayes (me)
posted by Mike Hayes
Parks-2399 Kathie (Parks) Forbes
Where is the documentation for these parents?
posted by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
Parks-2399 Kathie (Parks) Forbes
David Hampton, Emmet Starr, and Don Shadburn all state that Sonicooie was used as a surname by Susannah, whose Cherokee given name was “Soniovie.” Susannah had a daughter named Peggy Sonicooie before her marriage to Thomas Cordery. There was also a woman named Nannie Sinicooie who married into the Sanders family. While a surname would certainly be unusual at this time, clearly Susannah used this name in addition to her given name.
posted by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
Parks-2399 Kathie (Parks) Forbes
Susannah was a full-blood Cherokee. SHe did not have a white mother.
posted by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
Parks-2399 Kathie (Parks) Forbes
Susannah had eight children: Sarah, Lucy, Nancy, Charlotte, David, Hettie, Early, and Susan. Peggy, Deanna, and Shadrach do not belong to this family.
posted by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
Stewart-6071 Doug Stewart
Could previous merges of Sinicooie-8 & 7 be the reason for 17 children several with no vital info., That is not the only concern Sonicooie-1 born about 1764-1785.would be 21 years, Possible duplicate children Cordery-9 and Cordery-21 B.Y. 1786 youngest Child Cordery-35 B.Y. 1820 there are other possible duplicate children. some with no B.Y. another thought did Thomas Cordery have another relationship from 1785 to after 1820.
posted by Doug Stewart
Lee-5956 Robin Lee
Removed all the children that were born before she was of child bearing age.
posted by Robin Lee

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