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Thomas Southard (abt. 1615 - 1684)

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Thomas Southard
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Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married in Hempstead, Long Island, New Yorkmap
Descendants descendants
Died in Hempstead, Nassau County, Long Island, New Yorkmap
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Biography

in 1650 Thomas bought a farm from Thomas Applegate in Gravesend, Brooklyn, Kings, western Long Island. He thus became an early English settler under Dutch rule in Gravesend, now a neighborhood in south-central Brooklyn, along the shore of Gravesend Bay and Coney Island. In 1609 Henry Hudson landed his ship the Half Moon there at the island known by the natives as Narrioch (Coney Island). In 1643 Gravesend then became one of the original towns founded in the Dutch colony of New Netherland when Governor Willem Kieft granted a land patent to the Anabaptist Lady Deborah Moody, as a site where that English sect could settle free from religious persecution. Clashes with the natives delayed the town for two more years, until December 19, 1645.

"Southard or Southart, Thomas, of Gd [Gravesend], (sup.) English, m. Annica da. of Anthony Jansen from Salee. Bought Dec. 20, 1650, of Thomas Applegate the one half of the lot Applegate bought of Randell Hunt, as per Gd. rec. Owned plantation-lot No. 11 in Gd in 1653. He quarrelled with his father-in-law Anthony Jansen about the ownership of cattle, on which Anthony was imprisoned by the local court of Gd, but released by the higher one of the colony, as per p. 136 of Calendar of Dutch Man. He appears to have removed to Hempstead, where he resided in 1670, having sons Thomas Junr and John, whose descendants reside in that locality. He was also probably the ancestor of the Southards of N.J.... " See Samuel, son of Thomas, Jr. for more info.

From a Family Group Sheet in LDS online site:

"It was fortunate for me that Jane and Jim were still in New Jersey when I found I had yet another family of that state to be researched. Jacob Falkenburg, grandson of the first Henry Jacob Falkenburg, married a Phoebe Southard. Jane and Jim found this researched by Ralph Potter at the New Jersey Historical Society in Newark. The first American Southards were not of which we can be proud. Let us hope that their unlovable characteristics were diluted through the years by other more gentle traits given to us by other ancestors.
"Thomas Southard was the first of this family in America. He was probably of a family of English dissenters who went first to Holland -- as he was born there about 1615, possibly in Leyden. He settled at Gravesend, Long Island and went to work for a farmer named Anthony Jansen. Anthony was of a somewhat higher station in life and a man of property on Long Island. His father was Jan Jansen Van Haarlem. As you know, Haarlem is a city in Holland and no doubt that district in New York got its name from that Dutch city.
"Anthony and Grietje Reyniers were married on board the ship that brought them to America ca 1631. Annica, the first of their four daughters, was born around 1632 in what is now lower Manhattan in New York City. In a mutually agreeable arrangement Thomas Southard and Annica Jansen were married. Thomas was probably looking to a dower, and Anthony no doubt happy to have one of his daughters off his hands. Thomas bought land of Anthony whereby making them neighbors. Court records show Anthony to be mean and quarrelsome, and at odds with the law, with the church pastor and his wife, and finally with Thomas who was no less contentious. When it became apparent that things would be no better between the families, Thomas and Annica moved to Hempstead, Long Island. There they raised their family of 9 children. They died there, he in 1688. Annica was still living in 1698. Their second son, John, was our ancestor.
"As the sons grew to manhood they found it more difficult to live in Hempstead as they felt more Dutch than English.
"In the years before the Revolution, feelings ran high between the American rebels and those loyal to the crown. Their English neighbors insisted they take sides. To escape this, many Southards decided to leave Hempstead, some going up the Hudson River and others going to Connecticut. Our John had married Grace Carman who lived on a neighboring farm. I believe she was the daughter of either Joseph or Caleb Carman. Thus the name ...."[1]

The "Register in Alphabetical Order, of the Early Settlers of Kings County, Long Island, N.Y., from its First Settlement by Europeans to 1700" by Teunis G. Bergen records the following: "Southard or Southhart, Thomas, of Gravesend, (sup) English, m. Annica da. of Anthony Jansen from Salee. Bought Dec. 20, 1650, of Thomas Applegate the one half of the lot Applegate bought of Randell Hunt, as per Gravesend rec. Owned plantation-lot No. 11 in Gd in 1653. He quarrelled with his father-in-law Anthony Jansen about the owership of cattle, on which Anthony was imprisined by the local court of Gravesend, but released by the higher one of the colony, as per p. 136 of the Calendar of Dutch Man. He appears to have removed to Hempstead, where he resided in 1670, having sons Thomas Jun and John, whose descendants reside in that locality. He was also probably the ancestor of the Southards of N.J. Abraham, son of Thomas Jun, settled in Bernardstown,N.J. whose grandson, the Hon. Samuel L. Southard, represented N.J. as Senator in the Congress of 1821, in 1823, was Secretary of the Navy, in 1841, chosen president of the Senate and on the death of Harrison, in April of that year, acting Vice President, as per p. 47 of Vol 2 of Thompson's L.I. Made his mark to to documents."

Southard[2]

It was fortunate for me that Jane and Jim were still in New Jersey when I found I had yet another family of that state to be researched. Jacob Falkenburg, grandson of the first Henry Jacob Falkenburg, married a Phoebe Southard. Jane and Jim found this researched by Ralph Potter at the New Jersey Historical Society in Newark. The first American Southards were not of which we can be proud. Let us hope that their unloveable characteristics were diluted through the years by other more gentle traits given to us by other ancestors. Thomas Southard was the first of this family in America. He was probably of a family of English dissenters who went first to Holland--as he was born there about 1615, possibly in Leyden. He settled at Gravesend, Long Island and went to work for a farmer named Anthony Jansen. Anthony was of a somewhat higher station in life and a man of property on Long Island.

His father was Jan Jansen Van Haarlem. As you know, Haarlem is a city in Holland and no doubt that district in New York get it's name from that Dutch city. Anthony and Grietje Reyniers were married on board the ship that brought them to America ca 1631. Annica, the first of their four daughters, was born around 1632 in what is now lower Manhattan in New York City. In a mutually agreeable arrangement Thomas Southard and Annica Jansen were married. Thomas was probably looking to a dower, and Anthony no doubt happy to have one of his daughters off hia hands. Thomas bought land of Anthony whereby making them neighbors. Court records show Anthony to be mean and quarrelsome, and at odds with the law, with the church pastor and his wife, and finally with Thomas who was no less contentious. When it became apparent that things would be no better between the families,

Thomas and Annica moved to Hempstead, Long Island. There they raised their family family of 9 children. They died there , he in 1688 . Annica was still living in 1698. Their second son John was our ancestor. As the sons grew to manhood they found it more difficult to live in Hempstead as they felt more Dutch than English. In the years before the Revolution feelings ran high between the American rebels and those loyal to the crown. Their English neighbors insisted they take sides. To escape this many Southards decided to leave Hempstead , some going up the Hudson River and others going to Connecticut. Our John had married Grace Carman who lived on a neighboring farm. I believe she was the daughter of either Joseph or Caleb Carman. Thus the name Caleb was introduced into the family. Caleb was the third son of Grace and John , born about 1700. He is our ancestor. On July 31, 1732 he was married to Charity Beat in St. George's Episcopal Church in Nassua, Long Island---the same church in which his parents John and Grace were married. In later research I found that Beat was also spelled Beatje.

This tells us that Charity was Dutch--at least on her father's side. Caleb and Charity chose to leave Hempstead, going to Connecticut. They lived there for only a short while before going down the coast to southern New Jersey. In Monmouth Co tjeir eldest daughter Phoebe was married to Jacob Falkenburg. Their son Caleb was the grandfather of our Mary Falkenburg Torrie. Caleb was the name given to Mary's brother, making him our great uncle. I find it exciting that that name was in our family into the twentieth century.[3]

Birth

Abt 1615 Leyden Holland[4]

Immigration

ABT 1640 on a ship named the Falcon, according to tradition

Marriage

Wife: Annica Jansen 29 DEC 1650 Place: New Amsterdam, NY[5]

Children

  1. Isaac Southard
  2. Abraham Southard
  3. Thomas Southard
  4. John Southard
  5. Sarah Southard
  6. Margaret Southard
  7. Abigail Southard
  8. Mary Southard
  9. Unice Southard

Land

29 Dec 1650 Place: Gravesend, , New York a farm that he bought from Thomas Applegate - He sold half of his farm, in Gravesend, to Thomas Southard, who had married Anna, daughter of Anthony Jansen Van Salee.[6]

Death

1688 Hempstead, Long Island, NY
FindaGrave entry states death 1684, burial place unknown [7]

Sources

  1. Source: #S320: Page: Vol. 15 No. 2, Apr 2001
  2. Source: #NI329: WFT #4021
  3. [frsout2.FTW]: [1853352.ged]: [martha davis.FTW]: [Brøderbund WFT Vol. 1, Ed. 1, Tree #4021, Date of Import: Sep 26, 2001]
  4. Source: #S203: Text: Date of Import: May 8, 2001
  5. Source: #S320: Page: Vol. 15, Nos. 1 and 2
  6. Source: #S379: Page: p. 16.: Quality or Certainty of Data: 3
  7. Find-A-Grave: Memorial #167600470
  • Source S191: Abbreviation: Betsey Howe: Title: Betsey Howe
  • Source S203 : Abbreviation: heath-master.R GED.GED: Title: heath-master.R GED.GED: Repository: #R15: Repository R15
  • Source S379 : Abbreviation: Historical and Genealogical Miscellany, Volume 3: Title: Historical and Genealogical Miscellany: Data Relating to the Settlement and Settlers of New York and New Jersey (Volumes I and II) and Historical and Genealogical Miscellany: Early Settlers of New Jersey and their Descendants (Volumes III, IV and V), 6 vols. (New York, 1903 - 1932).: Author: John E. Stillwell, M.D: Publication: Archive CD Books USA.
  • Source S320: Title: The Official Southard Gazette & Record, Address: 125 Williams-White: Abbreviation: Southard Gazette: Southard family: Author: Carl & Anita Southard: Publication: Zebulon, NC 27597, ongoing
  • Source S424: Title: Web page: Abbreviation: Web page: Publication: various
  • Source S474: Title: Cornell University Making of America, Record Type: Book images, Subject: History, Url: http://cdl.library.cornell.edu: Abbreviation: Making of America
  • Source S521: Title: www.ftdna.com/: Abbreviation: Family Tree DNA Project
  • Source: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, Ancestral File Ancestral File Number: XL2T-BK
  • Source: S134 Abbreviation: martha davis.FTW Title: martha davis.FTW Repository: #R2 Paranthetical: Y Repository: R2 Name: Not Given Address: Not Given Name: Not Given
  • Source: S137 Abbreviation: 1853352.ged Title: 1853352.ged Repository: #R2 Paranthetical: Y
  • Source: S228 Abbreviation: frsout2.FTW Title: frsout2.FTW Repository: #R2 Paranthetical: Y Data: Text: Date of Import: May 11, 2003
  • Source: S26 Abbreviation: frsout2.GED Title: frsout2.GED Repository: #R2 Paranthetical: Y Data: Text: Date of Import: May 11, 2003
  • Source: S346 Abbreviation: bstout2.FTW Title: bstout2.FTW Repository: #R2 Paranthetical: Y Data: Text: Date of Import: Jul 8, 2002
  • Source: S441Abbreviation: wpg1.FTW Title: wpg1.FTW Repository: #R2 Paranthetical: Y Data: Text: Date of Import: May 12, 2003
  • Source: S470Abbreviation: pstout1.FTW Title: pstout1.FTW Repository: #R2 Paranthetical: Y Data: Text: Date of Import: May 15, 2002
  • Source: S71Abbreviation: World Family Tree Vol. 1, Ed. 1 Title: World Family Tree Vol. 1, Ed. 1 Author: Brøderbund Software, Inc. Publication: Release date: November 29, 1995 Note: Customer pedigree. Repository: #R2 Paranthetical: Y
  • Source: Note NI329 [wpg1.FTW]: [frsout2.GED]: [1853352.ged: [martha davis.FTW]: [Brøderbund WFT Vol. 1, Ed. 1, Tree #4021, Date of Import: Sep 26, 2001]

Acknowledgments

  • This person was created through the import of Wilson.ged on 14 September 2010.
  • This person was created through the import of MASTER2011WIKITREE.GED on 27 January 2011.

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  • Southard-446 was created by Tom Greene through the import of tgreeneftdna1.ged on Jun 29, 2014.

Research notes

Parents

DNA evidence shows that the Southards were not related to the Southwards. Thomas Southward and Nancy Totten were not his parents.

DNA information

Event: Type: DNA test Note: Several lines have been proven through the use of DNA testing
Note: DNA testing is being used to test the theory that Thomas Southard was related to Edward Southworth, father of Constant and Thomas who emigrated to America in 1627. We urgently need at least two men with proven paper trails from Constant Southworth to have DNA testing with Family Tree DNA to prove or disprove this relationship. See https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/southworth-southard/about/background
Update We can certainly conclude, on the basis of DNA testing, that Thomas Southard was not related to Constant and Thomas Southworth at least in the last thousand years. We do not yet have proof that this American Southworth line descends from the Samlesbury line that includes Gilbert, son of Hugh de Croft. See https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/southworth-southard/about/background


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    On 30 Jun 2017 at 12:15 GMT Bea (Timmerman) Wijma wrote:

    Thank you Doris for the help, so to make sure I understand it correct, what you say is this Thomas did not have a brother William ?

    On 29 Jun 2017 at 22:53 GMT Bea (Timmerman) Wijma wrote:

    Hi and thanks for checking Carrie,

    Yes that Thomas was the son of Edward Southworth and Alice Carpenter, this Thomas was always said ..or assumed..to be the son of Edwards brother Thomas and his wife, the previous parents of this Thomas. The parents of that Thomas and Edward also are removed now (a bit a similar thing/situation as the false Royal connection and tangled up lineages we were working on with Anneke Jans and the webbers and the whole lot ;) ..wishful parents perhaps)

    I have added a note he was removed as son to the parents also, so I think it's fine ..

    Greets,

    Bea

    On 29 Jun 2017 at 22:46 GMT Doris (Muller) Wheeler wrote:

    The early references to a brother apply to Edward Southworth and his brother. They are not, as previously thought, related to Thomas Southard.

    On 28 Jun 2017 at 19:20 GMT Carrie Quackenbush wrote:

    I don't see any evidence of him having a brother in New Netherland sources.

    In the DNA listing the Virginians were the Southwards. Southworths?

    It looks like there was a PGM Thomas Southworth from Leiden https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Southworth-112

    On 28 Jun 2017 at 19:09 GMT Bea (Timmerman) Wijma wrote:

    Hi,

    Was wondering if there's info about his (previous) supposed brother William ? Because of the removal of the parents, now the connection between the two supposed brothers also is gone. So I don't know, is there some evidence they were brothers  ? If so perhaps we need to think of a way to fix the connection between them again ? Asking because we were looking for sources for them in the Dutch archives, because it was assumed Thomas and his supposed brother William were born in Leiden ?

    Greets, Bea

    On 28 Jun 2017 at 13:05 GMT Carrie Quackenbush wrote:

    FTDNA page is down at the moment but the parents have been removed and notes added to the research notes section. Thanks Doris.

    On 28 Jun 2017 at 12:14 GMT Doris (Muller) Wheeler wrote:

    The DNA evidence cited here represents the Southard line but not Southworth. These parents are wrong. See https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Southworth-Southard?iframe=ycolorized.

    On 21 Jun 2017 at 11:29 GMT Doris (Muller) Wheeler wrote:

    This bio contains several errors. As a descendant of Thomas Southard and a long-time genealogist, I have found no solid evidence of Thomas's birth. In fact, it has long been disputed in much of the literature. We know absolutely that he was not related to the Southworths of Samlesbury because of Y-DNA proof. Where is the proof for his parents and half-brother?

    On 20 Feb 2016 at 15:37 GMT Michelle (Gerard) Hartley wrote:

    Doris, are you saying that the attached father who is from Samlesbury is not the father?

    On 20 Feb 2016 at 15:36 GMT Michelle (Gerard) Hartley wrote:

    Where is that information located on that page?

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