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1613 Will of Francis Saunder

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The following information is from the transcription of his will printed in Virginia Gleanings in England: Abstracts of 17th and 18th-century English Wills and Administrations Relating to Virginia and Virginians : a Consolidation of Articles from The Virginia Magazine of History and Biography, Lothrop Withington (Genealogical Publishing Com, 1980), pages 211-213 (Google Books : accessed 29 September 2019).
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Francis Saunder, Ewell, Surrey, Gent. Will 17 August 1613; proved 25 August 1613

St Andrew's church, Congham, Norfolk mentioned, Edward Munford parson.

Sisters: Mary Lusher, Frances Spellman, Elizabeth Garnishe[1] - 1 angel each[2]

Neeces: Dame Jone Clyfford,[3] Dame Elizabeth Sanders and Dame Elynor Spellman[4] - ditto

Neeces: Jane Mynne,[5] Anne Whitney,[6] and Elizabeth Bayspoole - ditto

Nephew: Sir Nicholas Sander - £10 and forgive debts

Nephew: Henry Sander, Senior - £5, ditto brother of Sir Nicholas

Nephew: Henry Sander, son of Sir Nicholas Sander - my stone bowe - doesn't appear to have a profile[7]

Neece: Mary Beavill - £5 sister of Sir Nicholas

Neece: Fraunces Saunder - 20s daughter of Sir Nicholas[7]

Neece: Elizabeth Sander - 20s daughter of Sir Nicholas Sander[7]

Neece: Isabell Sander - £3 to buy Jewelles[7]

Nephew: Nicholas Sander - one Double Ryall son of Erasmus Saunders

Nephew: Phillipp Sander - ditto son of Erasmus Saunders

Nephew: Henry Sander, son of Mr. Erasmus Sander - £3 yearly for life out of lands in Clyff, Kent.

Neece: Jane Foulefford - £3 no likely profile found, 29 Sep. 2019 - daughter of Erasmus Saunders

Neece: Anne Sander - £20 yf unmarried and if married but 20s no likely profile found, 1 Oct. 2019 - daughter of Erasmus Saunders, she died November or December 1613

Nephew: John Spellman - my crosse bowe inlayde the stocke with mother of perle son of Sir Henry Spelman[8]

Nephew: Henry Spellman - £3 ... this is the Henry with the baptism record, son of Sir Henry & Elinor, 17 July 1595[8]

Nephew: Clement Spellman - £3 son of Sir Henry Spelman[8]

Nephewe Francis Spellman, sonne of Nephew Sir Henry Spellman,[8] Knight - £3

Neece Dorathy Spellman, daughter of ditto [Sir Henry Spellman,[8] Knight] - one Tablett of gould with a morion's face therein and a pendant knott of perles with the Spellman Armes in the same.

Neece Katheryne Spellman - £3 daughter of Sir Henry Spelman[8]

Neece Alce Spellman - £3 daughter of Sir Henry Spelman[8]

"Item, I geve and bequeath to the seaven Yongest Children of my Nephewe Erasmus Spellman Three Pounds a peece, my said Nephewe Sir Henrye Spellman shall receive it for their good and not their Mother, whe'rof Henry Spellman in Virginia to be exemted."

To Mr. Richard Saunderson and his wife - £4

Forgive Sister Marye Lusher debts and arrearages of £5 rent due since the death of our good Father William Saunder, Esquior,[9] out of my lands in Surrey, and acquitting all questions between us and my brother Erasmus Sander, deceased, and hir.

To servant Davye Ketchmay yf in service 40s. and hosen and doublett so he direct scattered things of myne in his custodie at Congham, Norfolk, London, Ewell, Clyffe, Kent, Surrey, etc.

To Nephewe Richard Sander, son of brother Erasmus Sander aforesaid, Coppyehould in Congham, Norfolk, houlden of Mr. Edward Yelverton, etc. and ditto held of Sir Henrye Spellman, Knight, also rectory of All Saints in Congham, etc., etc., alsoe landes in Clyffe, Kent, and Ewell,Surrey, and all other goodes, etc., etc.

Executor said Nephewe Richard Sander son of Erasmus Saunders
Overseers: nephewes Sir Henrye Spellman and Sir William Mynne, Knightes, and to said Sir William 2 spurr royals and to Sir Henry Spellman best gelding and saddle etc.

from transcription: "Mem. Whereas have by grant of my sister Elizabeth Garnyshe hir kindness Annuitie of £10 out of her manor of Hornyngetofte, Norfolk, which shee gave me when she was sole the wydowe of William Forde, Esquior, deceased, which deed is in custodye of Gregorye Pagrave, countie Norfolk, gent., the same to be equally divided amongst sons and daughters of brother Erasmus Sander, deceased, his son and heir Executor. Witnesses: Richard Bendysh, Eward Moundeford, James Munsers, scr., Symone Sillett of Congham, gent.

[Sentence (108 Capell) confirming will of Francis Saunder, of Congham, Norfolk, gentleman, in case between Richard Saunder, executor, on one part, and next in kin, Sir Nicholas Saunder, knight, Henry Saunder and Nicholas Saunder, Esquires, and Philip Saunder and William Saunder, gentlemen, read the 2d of the Feast of St. Edmund the King, viz., 23 November 1613.]

Note - Richard, the executor, is eldest son of Francis's brother Erasmus. Sanders' Sanders Family notes that Phillip, son of Erasmus, "and his brothers and cousins sued Richard Saunders, their elder stepbrother and Francis's executor."[10] Sir Nicholas is son of Francis's brother Nicholas (died 1587). Both Nicholas's son Henry (Senior, in the will; brother of Sir Nicholas) and Sir Nicholas's son Henry were living in 1613, and so was Henry, son of Francis's brother Erasmus, as were Erasmus's sons Nicholas and William. Since Sanders says "brothers and cousins" [emphasis added], perhaps Henry is Phillip's cousin, not his brother. It could be also that Phillip's brother Henry was not yet of age (which would also explain the additional bequest to him).

Capell, 76.

[Brown, Arber and other writers state that Henry Spellman, well known in the early history of Virginia, was third son of Sir Henry Spelman, the antiquary. Their authority is not known. This will, however, shows that he was a son of Erasmus Spelman, and nephew of Sir Henry.]

1570 Will of William Saunders

William Saunders' children from his will, dated 2 October 1570:[11] Nicholas, Francis, Erasmus, Mary Lusher, Frances Spelman, Elizabeth Castell, Urith Palgrave, and Katherine Carvell. (I don't think I missed anyone.)[12]

He (William) also mentions an Oliver Gittons (son of his wife Joan by Thomas Gittins). William calls his father Harry Saunders and his grandson Nicholas Lusher "godson" (described elsewhere in will as son of "daughter Lusher").

  1. From her father's profile (no inline source citation or links to existing profiles, as of 30 September 2019):
    • Elizabeth Saunders, who married first Roger Castell (died 1581), of Raveningham in Norfolk, secondly William Ford, of Hadleigh in Suffolk, and thirdly Thomas Garnish, of Horningtoft.
  2. His sister Katherine died in 1609. She had a daughter named Anne by her first husband Edmund Kervill. She married (2) John Spilman and had John (d 1573), Francis and Robert (twins; Robert died 1585), and Bridget (married Anthony Drury). She married (3) Miles Corbett (in 1582; he died in 1607). Sources: Katherine's profile and Visitation of Norfolk, Spelman, page 254 (271 of 506), accessed 29 September 2019. It does not appear that any of her children are mentioned in the will; the Visitation does not show any grandchildren from her surviving Spilman children and does not mention children by her other marriages.
  3. Jane, daughter of Nicholas and Isabel (Carew) Saunders, married (2) Sir Alexander Clifford. See her father's profile for details.
  4. Fairly sure of Dame Sanders & Dame Spellman being the wives of Sir Nicholas Saunders & Sir Henry Spelman.
  5. There's a profile for a Jane Mynne: Mynne-4, daughter of Nicholas Mynne, married Thomas Southworth (c1565-1625). Given Thomas's dates, Francis's niece Jane Mynne is probably not the Jane m Southworth. However, there is a Nicholas Mynne listed as a son of Nicholas Mynne and Joan Marston (m 2nd William Saunders) on Nicholas's profile (Mynne-14, accessed 30 September 2019). His profile includes an abstract of his will, which includes mention of a sister named Alice (Mynne-17). On the profile page for Francis Saunder's half-brother John Mynne, it says that "his wardship and subsequent marriage rights were acquired by William Saunders of Ewell, John’s new stepfather." Perhaps Jane Mynne was his daughter. See this pdf for information about Jane/Joan Marston's will (Modern spelling transcript copyright ©2008 Nina Green, accessed 30 September 2019).
    • Found a Jane Mynne - not sure of her relationship to Francis's half-brother John, but it was on a source listed on John's profile, Horton Manor (accessed 30 September 2019): 'Although William Mynne inherited the Horton estate he was described when knighted in the Royal Garden at Whitehall, on 23 July 1603, as "of Rutlandshire". The Visitation of Rutland 1618/1619 is found to mention John Mynne "of Woodcote" and two of his sons, apparently the brothers of Sir William, John [junior], also "of Woodcoate", and Nicholas Mynne "of Walsingham, Norfolk". [The latter had married Elizabeth, nee Drury, child bride and widow of Thomas de Grey of Merton, Norfolk on 28 March 1567.] An explanation for the absence of Sir William Mynne's name is that he had died in 1618, survived by nine children (John, born circa 1598, William the elder, Thomas, Nicholas, William the younger, Elizabeth, Frances, Dorothy and Jane). His will provided for the eldest son, John, to inherit his manors, tenements, hereditaments and lands but the estate was charged with various annuities for the younger children and substantial amounts to be paid as dowries when the daughters married.'
  6. Nicholas and Isabel (Carew) Saunders had a daughter Anne who married Henry Whitney, Jr., gentleman. See her father's profile for details.
  7. 7.0 7.1 7.2 7.3 The introduction to the diary of Isabell, Sir Nicholas's daughter, says that she is the youngest of three daughters and that her brother (named Henry in the diary) died unmarried. A footnote in the diary says her eldest sister Frances married Edward Warham and "the second sister, Elizabeth, married into the Dorsetshire family of Napier or Napper". See page 7 of 25 (image says page 118) of this pdf of her diary (accessed 2 October 2019).
  8. 8.0 8.1 8.2 8.3 8.4 8.5 8.6 Spelman-75 is Sir Henry Spelman (1563/4-1641), antiquary, son of Henry Spilman-336 and his second wife Frances Saunders, sister of Francis with the 1613 will.
  9. William Saunder's will (dated 2 October 1570) mentions Mary's husband as "late"; her son Nicholas Lusher; and her unmarried daughters Jane, Elizabeth, Mary, and Margaret. Source: Probate records - "Modern spelling transcript copyright ©2008 Nina Green" - pdf, pages 9-11 of 14 (accessed 30 September 2019).
  10. Ralph Sanders, PhD. Sanders Family: a Thousand-Year History: A Revised and Expanded Edition of Generations: a Thousand-Year Family History (Xlibris Corporation, 2017). Google Books (accessed 2 October 2019).
  11. Probate records - "Modern spelling transcript copyright ©2008 Nina Green" - pdf, beginning page 9 (accessed 30 September 2019).
  12. His wife Joan's profile (widow of Gittins) cites her will to show that only Katherine was her daughter, as none of William's other children are named in her will, probated July 1581 ("Probate of her Will was granted Jul 1581 to Oliver Gittens").


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I wonder if Forde-14 is the William Forde mentioned as deceased husband of Francis's sister Elizabeth Garnishe? (If so, the profile has him born in Devon while her father's profile says he was "William Ford, of Hadleigh in Suffolk".)
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
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The Mynne family are from the first marriage of Francis's mother, Jane/Joan Marston, to Nicholas Mynne who was of 'Saint Bartholomews Close, West Smithfield London' when he wrote his Will on 15 April 1528/Probate granted 9 July 1528. Hope this helps.

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
I found the entry for "Mynd or Myn" in Visitations of Surrey - which is followed by Saunders - page 18. Neither entry sheds light on names in Francis Saunders' 1613 will.
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett