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(Opens with quotation mark; passage not attributed) "Thomas Dean was born in 1603, in reportedly, County Kent, England. The Dean name was in these olden days spelled a couple different ways although the families were in most cases directly linked to include but not limited by; Dane, Deen, and Deane.
(Appears to be a quote, though not noted as such and not attributed) In England we were the "Deans of the valley", supervisors of areas of land, as well as Dean being a common English baby name for a boy, it was a surname derived from an old English word "denu" meaning valley and it's origins also in ancient Latin from the word "decanus", meaning "leader of ten people". I believe that the few who could even read or write would spell many names and words as it sounded to them.
"It is not known by any source where these most olden Dean's are buried and might never be confirmed because the tombstones, if there were any beyond the common wooden cross of the times, would be 300 years old now and possibly badly worn or missing.
(Appears to be a quote, though not noted as such and not attributed) Great distance and time separated many families and spelling varied. On the 9th of May, 1635, at about the age of 32 years, Thomas departed England on the ship "Elizabeth Ann" and landed in Boston, Massachusetts. Thomas was a carpenter.
(Opens with quotation mark; passage not attributed) "According to the custom of other towns, the land was divided among the settlers, giving each a house-lot, so that the houses were not widely separated, and larger fields were assigned farther from town.


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Concord, Middlesex, Massachusetts, United States. Births, Marriages, and Deaths, 1635-1850. (Boston: Beacon Press, 1891), 19.
Thomas Dane died 5. feb. 1675. [1]
"Thomas Dane", in Anderson, Robert Charles; George F. Sanborn; and Melinde Lutz Sanborn. The Great Migration: Immigrants to New England, 1634-1635. (NEHGS, 1999-2011), Vol. II (C-F), p. 281.
"This Thomas Dane [carpenter, age 32], was enrolled at London on the Elizabeth and Ann, 9 May 1635, [i.e., born 1603] has been repeatedly credited as the man of that name who first appeared in Concord records in 1642/3 The seven-year gap between the enrollment at London and the appearance in Concord records, coupled with the lack of evidence to suppose that the Concord man was a carpenter makes the identification unlikely."
"The Dane and Deane Families of Concord, Mass.", in The New England Historical and Genealogical Register. (Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society), 18:263.
Servant Thomas Ches[man] had been bound to Dane by officers of Cranbrook, Kent, England. "This may serve as a clue to the place from which Dane emigrated; though too much reliance should not be placed on so slight a hint."
  • The New England historical and genealogical register, V 50.
George Dann of Tewdly, Kent, tanner, 9 August 1633, proved 26 September 1634. The poor of Tewdly. To wife Frances all my goods, cattle, chattels, stock and debts, towards the payment of my debts and legacies, the which Frances I do make executrix &c. Tenements and lands in Brenchley purchased of Thomas Dann to my brother Thomas after decease of my wife, he paying to Dorothy, Elizabeth, Jane and Margery, my sisters, ten pounds apiece and to Ann and Sara Wooddy, children of Dennyes my late deceased sister, ten pounds apiece, and also to Ann and Mercy Rootes, children of my said sister Dorothy, ten pounds apiece. Joseph Meriam one of the witnesses.
Commission issued, at date given above, to Robert Goldstone natural and lawful brother of Frances Dann, relict of the said deceased and executrix named in his will, because the said Frances died before accepting the trust.
  • Rochester Wills, Vol. xxii. (1631-44), fol. 94.
Frances Dann the relict of George Dann late of Tewdly, tanner, deceased, and the executrix named in his testament and last will did make her testament and last will by word of mouth 18 September 1634, proved 26 September 1634. Her brother Robert Goldstone to be her executor and pay such debts as ought to be paid by her. Her debts and funeral charges being paid and such charges as should happen by reason of her death and about her will being discharged, her said executor should have twenty pounds of her personal estate and the rest should be and remain to him to pay legacies. To the poor of Tewdly the twenty shillings which her husband had willed them and ten shillings more which she gave them (saving that her desire was that her kinsman John Baldcocke or his wife should have the greatest share with them thereof) and also to pay two shillings six pence to Harborowe, her husband's godson, and six shillings eight pence to Thomas Mirriam, likewise her husband's godson, and to Joane Peerse forty shillings and ten pounds apiece to every one of her brothers and sisters, which she willed unto them in this manner, viz, to her brother Roger ten pounds, to her sister Howe ten pounds, to her sister Mirriam ten pounds and to her sister Di»nn ten pounds if her personal estate should extend to so much, otherwise they should have equal shares in the remainder. And if her estate should amount to more she willed the overplus to her executor.
Wit: Frances Dyker, Agnes Cowchman and Joane Peirse.
  • The New England historical and genealogical register, V 50.
George Dann of Tewdly, Kent, tanner, 9 August 1633, proved 26 September 1634. The poor of Tewdly. To wife Frances all my goods, cattle, chattels, stock and debts, towards the payment of my debts and legacies, the which Frances I do make executrix &c. Tenements and lands in Brenchley purchased of Thomas Dann to my brother Thomas after decease of my wife, he paying to Dorothy, Elizabeth, Jane and Margery, my sisters, ten pounds apiece and to Ann and Sara Wooddy, children of Dennyes my late deceased sister, ten pounds apiece, and also to Ann and Mercy Rootes, children of my said sister Dorothy, ten pounds apiece. Joseph Meriam one of the witnesses.
  • Rochester Wills, Vol. xxii. (1631-44), fol. M.
Robert Goldston of Tonbridge, Kent, 10 April 1637, proved 16 May 1637. The poor of Tunbridge, Tewdly and Capell. Loving friend Mr. Joel Callys. To Elizabeth the wife of William Howe twenty shillings or a ring of that value for a testimony of my thankfulness for her great pains taken with me. William Dyker. Thomas and Francis the sons of Sara the daughter of Waller Thompson. William Howard and Robert Rootes the apprentices of Thomas Diker. Elizabeth Goldstone, the late wife of William Goldstone of Brenchley deceased, and Elizabeth, Frances and Anne Goldstone his three daughters. Frances my loving mother, now the wife of Thomas Dyker of Tonbridge, taylor. My sister in law Elizabeth the daughter of the said Thomas Diker. Francis, Anne and William Diker the three children of the said Thomas Diker.
Item, I give and bequeath unto Jane the wife of Thomas Howe of Tonbridge, clothier, and to Sara the wife of Joseph Merryam of Tewdly, clothier, my sisters, ten shillings apiece, to be paid them within one month next after my decease. I will and give to Hanna Mirriam, my god daughter, the daughter of the said Joseph, one pair of fine sheets which are in the house of Richard Kipping of Tewdly, tanner. Anne Tanner the
wife of James Tanner. My god daughter the daughter of Stephen
Bennett late of Tewdly deceased. The four children of Roger Thomsett of Brenchley my uncle. William Howe, Sara the wife of Nathaniel Weller, Elizabeth the wife of Josias Johnson, Mary, Susan and Thomas How the children of the said Thomas How. John, William, Jane, Martha and Susan the five children of William Jeffrey of London. Simon, John and Thomas Jeffrey the three sons of Thomas Jeffrey of Tonbridge and the two children of Nicholas Jeffrey. John Baldock, Jane the wife of Christopher Constable and Martha Harborough. To Francys, John and Mary Johnson, the three children of the said Jane my sister by Benjamin Johnson her late deceased husband, and to Alice and Francys, the two other children of the said Jane by the said Thomas How her now husband, six pounds apiece. Item, I give and bequeath unto William, Sara, Joseph, Thomas, Elizabeth and Hanna, the six children of the said Joseph Mirriam by the said Sara his now wife, to either of them the like sum of six pounds apiece, to be paid them within five years next after my decease. Thomas Dan the son of Thomas Dan by Elizabeth my sister deceased. My brother Roger Goldston certain household stuff &c. in the now dwelling house of Richard Kipping. The residue I wholly give to the said Thomas How and Joseph Merriam whom I make and ordain full and sole executors.
Then follows the disposition of the lands and tenements in Brenchley, which are to go to brother Roger Goldston at the end of five years (the executors receiving the rents &c. during that period). If Roger die before the end of the said term then all these lands and tenements to go to sisters Jane the wife of Thomas How and Sara the wife of Joseph Mirriam &c, provided the said Roger leave no issue. And the said Fraucys my mother, if then living, shall have the use and occupation of that part of the said lauds &c. which is now in the occupation of one William Turner, containing by estimation fourteen acres more or less.


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the last pasage: the will of Robert Goldston of Tonbridge, Kent, 10 April 1637, proved 16 May 1637

is interesting only due to the line of text at the end "Thomas Dan the son of Thomas Dan by Elizabeth my sister deceased." this is the source that provided speculation that a Thomas Dan's wife was Elizabeth Goldsten (of Tonbridge) There is no clue as to why this should relate to Thomas Dann, who had emmigrated in 1635

The other will of George Dann of Tudeley 1633/4 mentions "Tenements and lands in Brenchley purchased of Thomas Dann" again no obvious reason why this should relate to Thomas Dann of Concord

the NC will of George Dann's widow/relict Frances Dann in 1634 mentions "Her brother Robert Goldstone" (so either her maiden name was Goldsten or he was her brother in law)

posted by Jeremy Stroud
edited by Jeremy Stroud
Sometimes items become relevant only after an accumulation of several or many sources are able to be reviewed in context.
posted by GeneJ X
edited by GeneJ X
the 2nd passage: unknown author, Thomas Dane http://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:Thomas_Dane_%287%29

is interesting because of the 4 sources it links at the bottom

posted by Jeremy Stroud
edited by Jeremy Stroud
If they are not already cited or otherwise given amount the sources on the profile, would you be good enough to add them?
posted by GeneJ X
edited by GeneJ X
the 1st misc passages seems to be from Find A Grave: Memorial #77290273 - so unreliable, though perhaps of interest
posted by Jeremy Stroud
Often clues, yes. I remains listed as an other source on the profile page.
posted by GeneJ X